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It is not repeated, ongoing, direct actions against an individual.He attacked their beliefs and called them names. He bullied them, plain and simple.
He attacked their beliefs and called them names. He bullied them, plain and simple.
So then....anyone who criticizes parts of the Bible....is "like" a bully.You know, I have to admit, I called Savage's actions bullying early in this thread, I think because I was using the sort of definition those who are against "anti-gay bullying" tend to use: The use of strong words of disagreement of someones lifestyle or beliefs especially with name calling and especially using sort of feminine epithets.
Actually I would like to apologize for exaggeration.
I would like to say it is more like bullying; it is mean speech, the belittling of belief and name calling.
In the same way most of what is called "anti-gay bullying" is just name calling and criticism of lifestyle.
Both are very wrong though. Picking on people who believe differently than you is childish no matter who does it.
Savage acted like a child. Like a bully.
Removal of Fox News Spin =
So-Called Christian High Schoolers flee anti-bullying conference when views are challenged...
He attacked their beliefs and called them names.
He bullied them, plain and simple.
It is, I just don't get the point. Challenge him, there's so many holes in his speech, it was very hypocritical, don't walk out like a *****.
This was not a forum that would allow them to challenge him so they took the option of walking out.
Back when I was a teenager in the late 70's,bullies used to mean a person or a group who would harass,intimidate,or physically assult anyone who was smaller and weaker than them.
Those who just called you names and made fun of you,(or your beliefs) were called "assholes".
In my old highschool,if someone like Dan Savage did what he did,he'd of been heckled right out of the building and had his car egged.
Can someone explain to me how Dan Savage was able to bully an entire audience full of modern teenagers?
Did he take their lunch money?
Did he give them an atomic wedgie and stuff them in the locker?
Did he duct tape them to the flagpole?
Am I to believe that all of those teenagers who walked out were physically incapable of "bumrushing the stage" and beating the snot out of him for being such a total douchebaghad they chosen to do so instead of walking ou t(and I am not saying they should have physically attacked him)?
He's lucky those teenagers didn't stab or shoot him in the parking lot.
Dan Savage acted like a complete asshole,but saying he "bullied" those kids is absurd.
I don't want to be associated with folks I once considered reasonable, who stood up for themselves, who now cave and support irrational positions.
Straw, straw and more straw, no one has made those claims, nor is that what the poster said.Lets get this right ok...BULLYING has not specific targets...Homosexuals are not BULLIED more than other groups....that is a myth perpetrated by them...for effect.
When I retired I was security in an alternative hs for kids that got tossed from reg HS...it was a cess pool of bullies...and there was plenty of prey...and the two homosexual kids that I was told to keep a more keen eye on...werent bothered at all...the most unattractive poorly dressed girls were literally bruatalized if I and my two guys werent around...you would find them crying...other girls beating on them and berating them every chance they got...and then there were the weaker boys that no one liked....BULLYING is not homosexual specific nor is it Predominent with them
Bullying has happened since they created kids...and its no worse today than it was in the 60s or 70s....its that we the adults have alot less control over it today...
My unfriending them.....is forcing them to be a certain way?My way or the highway, huh?
Do you know what the theme of the symposium was?Note to convention planners, particularly those who plan high school ones: A more formal understanding needs to be reached about keynote speakers speaking on the scheduled topic. Here, it was alternative social media, not Savage's boyfriend and how hot he looks in a Speedo or how the Bible is bull.
Seems reasonable to expect a speaker to talk on-topic.
Do you know what the theme of the symposium was?
Lets get this right ok...BULLYING has not specific targets...Homosexuals are not BULLIED more than other groups....that is a myth perpetrated by them...for effect.
When I retired I was security in an alternative hs for kids that got tossed from reg HS...it was a cess pool of bullies...and there was plenty of prey...and the two homosexual kids that I was told to keep a more keen eye on...werent bothered at all...the most unattractive poorly dressed girls were literally bruatalized if I and my two guys werent around...you would find them crying...other girls beating on them and berating them every chance they got...and then there were the weaker boys that no one liked....BULLYING is not homosexual specific nor is it Predominent with them
Bullying has happened since they created kids...and its no worse today than it was in the 60s or 70s....its that we the adults have alot less control over it today...
Verthaine said:Can someone explain to me how Dan Savage was able to bully an entire audience full of modern teenagers?
FALSE - he called them out on their cherry-picking of scripture....
Abominations = shellfish, mix threads, cutting hair, marrying out of the tribe, homosexuality...
He pointed out how stupid it is to cling to just one to justify bullying.
It's BULLPUCKY to use the bible as tool for modern life and sexuality issues. Use it has compass to check your compassion for others. Your UNCONDITIONAL love for others. Fine. But don't use a bible a social science textbook.
Not plain and simple at all.
He challenged their beliefs. Today's coddled kids aren't used to a strong speaker getting in their face.
Many, many in the audience applauded an cheered.... it was just handful of sheep that scurried away because the LOGIC DOES NOT COMPUTE....
And yet you just avoided stating or restating what the theme of the symposium was.On this thread I have posted JES/NSPA links including the note about Savage and his topic in the published program.
Savage, or anyone else, CAN be critical of the use of parts of the Bible for persecuting homosexuals.Hazlnut is not in a position to dictate what the bible can and cannot be used for in another persons life.
It depends on what "turning the tables" means.I can't believe people actually support this guy...
If the tables were turned I'm sure many who support this guy would have the opposite opinion.
neither of you posses ecumenical authority on anything concerning religion.
In other words, like a pansy, you walked out. :lamoMy unfriending them.....is forcing them to be a certain way?
No.
It means I won't associate with them, if anything I am going a different road, not forcing them to take a different path.
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