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ANSWERS TO ATHEIST NONSENSE

Daisy said:
Duh...
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Since CHRIST is GOD and created everything that exists, and forgives anyone's sin ------ sounds far better than CHRIST being a man who never mentions formerly being an angel named Michael --- like JW's wish to promote...
 
LittleNipper said:
Since CHRIST is GOD and created everything that exists, and forgives anyone's sin ------ sounds far better than CHRIST being a man who never mentions formerly being an angel named Michael --- like JW's wish to promote...
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Christ is God's Son, just as Jesus and the Bible both claim...nowhere does the Bible or Jesus claim to be God...just sayin'...
 
Manc Skipper said:
All gods claim to be the one true one, and all the others false. Which of the thousands on offer if any is the right one? What if you ar praying to the wrong one?
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This isn't true at all. The pagan gods all seem to know who their father, mother, brothers, and sisters are. My GOD is the only one who says HE existed ETERNALLY and made everything that exists.
 
Daisy said:
Christ is God's Son, just as Jesus and the Bible both claim...nowhere does the Bible or Jesus claim to be God...just sayin'...
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CHRIST does say that HE is ONE with HIS FATHER. Sounds like the same "species" to me... I know of no son of any human who stated that even though his father was human, that he was not... just sayin'...
 
LittleNipper said:
CHRIST does say that HE is ONE with HIS FATHER. Sounds like the same "species" to me... I know of no son of any human who stated that even though his father was human, that he was not... just sayin'...
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And he explains exactly what he means by that statement a few verses down, in John 10:38...they are both in union with one another...
 
LittleNipper said:
Since CHRIST is GOD and created everything that exists, and forgives anyone's sin ------ sounds far better than CHRIST being a man who never mentions formerly being an angel named Michael --- like JW's wish to promote...
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Still a myth.
 
LittleNipper said:
Since CHRIST is GOD and created everything that exists, and forgives anyone's sin ------ sounds far better than CHRIST being a man who never mentions formerly being an angel named Michael --- like JW's wish to promote...
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As you said previously, prove it!
 
LittleNipper said:
This isn't true at all. The pagan gods all seem to know who their father, mother, brothers, and sisters are. My GOD is the only one who says HE existed ETERNALLY and made everything that exists.
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Your god is the Caananite El, aka Yahweh, the consort of Asherah, father of Baal, Yem, Mot, Shemesh and his other 70 sons. You know nothing, Jon Snow!
 
Manc Skipper said:
All gods claim to be the one true one, and all the others false. Which of the thousands on offer if any is the right one? What if you ar praying to the wrong one?
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Actually, the gods claim nothing at all. The words of gods are put into their mouths by human beings for various reasons, but mostly to pretend to represent an authoritative message.
 
Daisy said:
And he explains exactly what he means by that statement a few verses down, in John 10:38...they are both in union with one another...
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John 10:38 "But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, you should at least believe my deeds, in order that you may know once and for all that the Father is in me and that I am in the Father.".
Yes, THEY exist within EACH OTHER. THEY are ONE. The New World Translation added the word "UNION" because the way it actually reads above sounds far too close for JW's to accept!
 
Manc Skipper said:
Your god is the Caananite El, aka Yahweh, the consort of Asherah, father of Baal, Yem, Mot, Shemesh and his other 70 sons. You know nothing, Jon Snow!
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Satan does love to confuse and distort. Baal demanded baby sacrifices.... You may know even less than you imagine I do...
 
LittleNipper said:
the Father is in me and that I am in the Father.".
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Well yeah, that's what it means...they are in union with one another...
LittleNipper said:
Yes, THEY exist within EACH OTHER. THEY are ONE. The New World Translation added the word "UNION" because the way it actually reads above sounds far too close for JW's to accept!
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Wrong...to get to the truth of what the verse means, we must read the entirety of Jesus’ teaching on this subject and let that guide our interpretation...John 14:10-23; John 17:21-23 shed shed light on Jesus meaning...when we study those passages, we see that Jesus has in mind being unified in purpose, and his words make no sense if they are understood in a trinitarian sense..

In .John 17 Jesus prays that the disciples may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us…that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one...from these 2 passages we can see what Jesus means when he speaks of being “in” one another...he equates this with being one/unified, and he prays that the disciples would be “in” too, so they can be perfectly one...they are all one in purpose...
 
Daisy said:
Well yeah, that's what it means...they are in union with one another...


Wrong...to get to the truth of what the verse means, we must read the entirety of Jesus’ teaching on this subject and let that guide our interpretation...John 14:10-23; John 17:21-23 shed shed light on Jesus meaning...when we study those passages, we see that Jesus has in mind being unified in purpose, and his words make no sense if they are understood in a trinitarian sense..

In .John 17 Jesus prays that the disciples may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us…that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one...from these 2 passages we can see what Jesus means when he speaks of being “in” one another...he equates this with being one/unified, and he prays that the disciples would be “in” too, so they can be perfectly one...they are all one in purpose...
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The JW's throw away the truth revealed by many other translations and plenty of other verses that all together declare that CHRIST never was an angel, never was created, has the ability to create, forgive, save, judge, heal (just like the FATHER and the HOLY SPIRIT), loves those HE saves, and chose to remain a visible being surrounded by everyone HE rescued and exist among them for all eternity.
 
LittleNipper said:
The JW's throw away the truth revealed by many other translations and plenty of other verses that all together declare that CHRIST never was an angel, never was created, has the ability to create, forgive, save, judge, heal (just like the FATHER and the HOLY SPIRIT), loves those HE saves, and chose to remain a visible being surrounded by everyone HE rescued and exist among them for all eternity.
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lol...just the opposite...we continuously search for the truth of God's Word, rather than remain stagnant to a doctrine that Christendom adopted from the pagans in 325 AD...

Several English translations do a good job of showing that the Lord has in mind this dynamic unity in the sense of “reciprocal fellowship.” The New Testament: A Translation in the Language of the People by Charles Williams, and the NWT (New World Translation), translate the phrase, “the Father is in union with me and I am in union with the Father.” And the CJB (Complete Jewish Bible) reads, “the Father is united with me, and I am united with the Father.” The reading “united” is better than “in union,” which can be easily misunderstood to mean a metaphysical union of some sort. The translation “united” clearly communicates the heart of Jesus’ meaning, that he and his Father are perfectly one in purpose.
https://www.biblicalunitarian.com/verses/john-10-38
 
Daisy said:
lol...just the opposite...we continuously search for the truth of God's Word, rather than remain stagnant to a doctrine that Christendom adopted from the pagans in 325 AD...

Several English translations do a good job of showing that the Lord has in mind this dynamic unity in the sense of “reciprocal fellowship.” The New Testament: A Translation in the Language of the People by Charles Williams, and the NWT (New World Translation), translate the phrase, “the Father is in union with me and I am in union with the Father.” And the CJB (Complete Jewish Bible) reads, “the Father is united with me, and I am united with the Father.” The reading “united” is better than “in union,” which can be easily misunderstood to mean a metaphysical union of some sort. The translation “united” clearly communicates the heart of Jesus’ meaning, that he and his Father are perfectly one in purpose.
https://www.biblicalunitarian.com/verses/john-10-38
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We pray for you.

John 8:23-25​

23 JESUS said to them, “You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. 24 This is why I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not trust that I AM [who I say I am], you will die in your sins.”
25 At this, they said to him, “You? Who are you?” JESUS answered, “Just what I’ve been telling you from the start.

John 18:4-6 Young's Literal Translation
4Jesus, therefore, knowing all things that are coming on Him, having gone forth, said to them, “Whom do you seek?” 5They answered Him, “Jesus the Nazarene”; Jesus says to them, “I AM”; and Judas who delivered Him up was standing with them. 6When, therefore, He said to them, “I AM,” they went away backward, and fell to the ground.
 
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watsup said:
There is no actuality-based evidence for a Satan. It exists only in fables, like wood fairies.
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So, you see no evil taking place in the world. Evil only exists in fairy tales and fables...
 
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