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ANSWERS TO ATHEIST NONSENSE

Gordy327 said:
If there's free will, then one may follow god regardless if god is proven real or not. What difference would it make?
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Because you would be too intimidated to reject God if you could see Him watching over you all the time. Nonbelievers want God out of their lives, this way gives it to them.
 

Did God Use Evolution to Create the Different Types of Life?​

The Bible’s answer​

No. The Bible clearly states that God created humans as well as different “kinds” of animal and plant life.a (Genesis 1:12, 21, 25, 27; Revelation 4:11) It says that the entire human family descended from Adam and Eve, our first parents. (Genesis 3:20; 4:1) The Bible account does not support the theory that God used evolution to bring about the different kinds of life, sometimes called theistic evolution. The fact is, though, that nothing in the Bible conflicts with scientific observations that variations occur within each kind of life.b

Did God use evolution?​

The term “theistic evolution” refers to a broad variety of ideas. According to the Encyclopædia Britannica, the term promotes the idea that “natural selection is one of the mechanisms with which God directs the natural world.”
Theistic evolution can also include the following ideas:
  • All living organisms descended from common ancestors in the distant past.
  • One kind of life-form can evolve into a completely different kind of life-form, a concept that is sometimes referred to as macroevolution.
  • God is somehow ultimately responsible for these processes.

Is evolution compatible with the Bible?​

Theistic evolution implies that the Bible’s account of creation in Genesis is not completely accurate. However, Jesus referred to the Genesis account as historical fact. (Genesis 1:26, 27; 2:18-24; Matthew 19:4-6) The Bible says that before coming to earth, Jesus lived in heaven with God and was involved in helping God to bring “all things” into existence. (John 1:3) Therefore, the idea that God used evolution to bring about different life-forms is incompatible with Bible teachings.

What about the ability of plants and animals to adapt?​

The Bible does not explain how much variation can occur within a kind. Neither does it contradict the fact that the different kinds of animals and plants created by God can vary as they breed or adapt to new environments. Although some view such adaptations as a form of evolution, no new kind of life is produced.

a The Bible uses the word “kind,” which is much broader in meaning than the word “species” as used by scientists. Often, what scientists choose to call the evolution of a new species is simply a matter of variation within a kind, as the word is used in the Genesis account.

b This concept is sometimes referred to as microevolution.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/502019185
 
forn said:
Because you would be too intimidated to reject God if you could see Him watching over you all the time. Nonbelievers want God out of their lives, this way gives it to them.
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"Nonbelievers", by definition, don't believe in any "God(s)". Therfore, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever for one to "want" something "out of their lives" that he/she doesn't believe exists to begin with.
 
tosca1 said:
What a profound display of ignorance regarding evolution. Your apparent lack of understanding of common descent.
Or that you think macro evolution means fish becoming apes and such.

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bottom line - you guys say we all came from the same ancestor.........................right?
Isn't this the accurate meaning of common descent?
Yes, or no.


Darwin’s theory of common descent is a basic theory in modern biology which states that different species of living organisms can ultimately be traced to a single common ancestor.
Ultimately, at least in theory, it leads to the conclusion that all forms of life-bacteria, fungi, plants, and animals-can be traced back to a single universal common ancestor.

Darwins Theory of Common Descent

www.actforlibraries.org www.actforlibraries.org
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Yes all life is related to the first life on earth 3.9 billion years ago. This has been discovered by science through DNA. This form of life depended on volcanic vents or geothermal energy to survive since the air had no oxygen.

3.9 billion years ago?​

The Last Universal Common Ancestor (LUCA), the species from which everything alive today is descended, may live at this time according to genetic evidence. Attempts to reconstruct its genome suggest it lives in a volcanic or geothermal setting. LUCA seems to be a relatively complex microorganism, indicating that the origin of life occurred significantly earlier.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17453-timeline-the-evolution-of-life/
 
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Daisy said:

Did God Use Evolution to Create the Different Types of Life?​

The Bible’s answer​

No. The Bible clearly states that God created humans as well as different “kinds” of animal and plant life.a (Genesis 1:12, 21, 25, 27; Revelation 4:11) It says that the entire human family descended from Adam and Eve, our first parents. (Genesis 3:20; 4:1) The Bible account does not support the theory that God used evolution to bring about the different kinds of life, sometimes called theistic evolution. The fact is, though, that nothing in the Bible conflicts with scientific observations that variations occur within each kind of life.b

Did God use evolution?​

The term “theistic evolution” refers to a broad variety of ideas. According to the Encyclopædia Britannica, the term promotes the idea that “natural selection is one of the mechanisms with which God directs the natural world.”
Theistic evolution can also include the following ideas:
  • All living organisms descended from common ancestors in the distant past.
  • One kind of life-form can evolve into a completely different kind of life-form, a concept that is sometimes referred to as macroevolution.
  • God is somehow ultimately responsible for these processes.

Is evolution compatible with the Bible?​

Theistic evolution implies that the Bible’s account of creation in Genesis is not completely accurate. However, Jesus referred to the Genesis account as historical fact. (Genesis 1:26, 27; 2:18-24; Matthew 19:4-6) The Bible says that before coming to earth, Jesus lived in heaven with God and was involved in helping God to bring “all things” into existence. (John 1:3) Therefore, the idea that God used evolution to bring about different life-forms is incompatible with Bible teachings.

What about the ability of plants and animals to adapt?​

The Bible does not explain how much variation can occur within a kind. Neither does it contradict the fact that the different kinds of animals and plants created by God can vary as they breed or adapt to new environments. Although some view such adaptations as a form of evolution, no new kind of life is produced.

a The Bible uses the word “kind,” which is much broader in meaning than the word “species” as used by scientists. Often, what scientists choose to call the evolution of a new species is simply a matter of variation within a kind, as the word is used in the Genesis account.

b This concept is sometimes referred to as microevolution.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/502019185
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What I would like to know is why God had such a fondness for beetles? Why did he create 300,000 species of them?

The Creator would appear as endowed with a passion for stars, on the one hand, and for beetles on the other, for the simple reason that there are nearly 300,000 species of beetle known, and perhaps more, as compared with somewhat less than 9,000 species of birds and a little over 10,000 species of mammals. Beetles are actually more numerous than the species of any other insect order. That kind of thing is characteristic of nature.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/06/23/beetles/
 
forn said:
Because you would be too intimidated to reject God if you could see Him watching over you all the time. Nonbelievers want God out of their lives, this way gives it to them.
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You presume too much. Emotionalism doesn't play it it. Non belivers are Nonbelievers because there is no proof or evidence of God. It's that simple.
 
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forn said:
Because you would be too intimidated to reject God if you could see Him watching over you all the time. Nonbelievers want God out of their lives, this way gives it to them.
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No that is a fallacy like God's existence. We see no reason to believe in any supreme being since they have no influence on anything on earth. You seem to need to create a reason for your existence when there is none. We simply exist due to the existence of mother earth. She is the only "supreme being" and our home and the wonder of the earth is miracle enough for us.
 
iguanaman said:
What I would like to know is why God had such a fondness for beetles? Why did he create 300,000 species of them?

The Creator would appear as endowed with a passion for stars, on the one hand, and for beetles on the other, for the simple reason that there are nearly 300,000 species of beetle known, and perhaps more, as compared with somewhat less than 9,000 species of birds and a little over 10,000 species of mammals. Beetles are actually more numerous than the species of any other insect order. That kind of thing is characteristic of nature.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/06/23/beetles/
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Read the biography of Darwin, and the English at that time were obsessed with collecting as many different beetles as possible as they explored the world. Only the Brits. “Eccentric”.
 
Gordy327 said:
Biased oxymoron.
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with a great expert Book to match; Craig could clean anyone's clock and did.




1725313051015.webp...he is also on YouTube debating with atheists, cause they needed their clocks cleaned.

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Gordy327 said:
Still biased BS which proves nothing.
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i don't think you would do well debating him, i know you wouldn't do well debating him...https://www.youtube.com/@drcraigvideos







i have heard this term before, FWIW..


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Revelation said:
i don't think you would do well debating him, i know you wouldn't do well debating him...https://www.youtube.com/@drcraigvideos







i have heard this term before, FWIW..


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Tell him to stop by BP. We’ll clean his clock just like we do with all the facetious inputs of the “believers”. These people hide behind self-published videos so we never get the whole truth. They are cowards in that manner.
 
watsup said:
Tell him to stop by BP. We’ll clean his clock just like we do with all the facetious inputs of the “believers”. These people hide behind self-published videos so we never get the whole truth. They are cowards in that manner.
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it would take him less than 1 day to shut down Beliefs forum.

so don't tempt me. besides that i need the practice and need some token opposition.


don't confuse his style with mine, he kind of Educates the educators.
 
Revelation said:
i don't think you would do well debating him, i know you wouldn't do well debating him...https://www.youtube.com/@drcraigvideos







i have heard this term before, FWIW..


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LOL So just calling God a magical being "beyond time and space" is enough for you to believe in his existence? Why would such an entity have any interest in humans beings on Earth? Also I thought God created man in his own image? Which is it?

Genesis 1:27​

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
 
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