Anonymous Vows To Unhood 1,000 Ku Klux Klan Members

[blackjack50]

Then the laws broken are of being hacked and not of releasing true facts about these people's beliefs which is not a crime in any capacity.

The hacking laws? Yes. And the obtaining of that information in an illegal manner makes releasing it illegal. That's how it works.

 

[blackjack50]

So we should trust the faceless group of people with a record of internet based terrorism?

:eye roll:

A group totally unhindered by law enforcement that is allowed to lambast anyone who they personally disagree with with absolutely no consequences. You don't see a problem with that?

What am I thinking? Of course not. Liberals aren't concerned with actual justice.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Read more @: Anonymous Vows To Unhood 1,000 Ku Klux Klan Members

Expose the racist bastards! They can no longer cowardly hide behind their hoods! [/FONT][/COLOR]

The right to privacy should apply to all, even those who may have abhorrent views.

 

[HowardBThiname]

really???? then you should tell the KKK theyre in the wrong party

Yes, really. Many of them are still in the democrat party, going by the nickname, "dixiecrats."

 

[TheDemSocialist]

So we should trust the faceless group of people with a record of internet based terrorism?

:eye roll:

A group totally unhindered by law enforcement that is allowed to lambast anyone who they personally disagree with with absolutely no consequences. You don't see a problem with that?

What am I thinking? Of course not. Liberals aren't concerned with actual justice.

Why does everyone think anonymous is "liberals"?
Its a collective group of both right wing and left wing libertarians, anarchists, and I'm also guessing liberals, and many other political stripes....

 

[blackjack50]

Why does everyone think anonymous is "liberals"?
Its a collective group of both right wing and left wing libertarians, anarchists, and I'm also guessing liberals, and many other political stripes....

Currently being supported by liberals because it is currently conducting left wing terror.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Currently being supported by liberals because it is currently conducting left wing terror.

Exposing the KKK is "left wing terror"? How do you figure? Also you still did not explain how the group is "liberal"...

 

[Skeptic Bob]

Why does everyone think anonymous is "liberals"?
Its a collective group of both right wing and left wing libertarians, anarchists, and I'm also guessing liberals, and many other political stripes....

Unless I am missing some instances, their history of targets DOES seem to indicate they lean left.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Unless I am missing some instances, their history of targets DOES seem to indicate they lean left.

They have targeted everyone from the Church of Scientology, child pornography sites, governments of US, Israel, Uganda, Saudi Arabia, groups such as ISIS, the KKK, Westboro Baptist Church, etc. To plainly speak on it, they have no coherent or unifying political ideology except for being against big government intrusiveness actions such as spying, etc and against what the deem is overreaching government authoritarianism. Everyone from extreme left to far right have been/are apart of anonymous. The idea that holds anonymous together is cyber freedom and holding governments and big money corporations accountable and to increase transparency.

 

[Amadeus]

I do not agree... the Far Right is pretty racist in an outright manner but the over all policies of the Left are based in what looks like generosity but is really oppressive...

You are pretty deluded if you believe that.

 

[Absentglare]

So we should trust the faceless group of people with a record of internet based terrorism?

:eye roll:

A group totally unhindered by law enforcement that is allowed to lambast anyone who they personally disagree with with absolutely no consequences. You don't see a problem with that?

What am I thinking? Of course not. Liberals aren't concerned with actual justice.

Why do you think this is a liberal thing?

Are you saying conservatives support the KKK?

 

[Absentglare]

The hacking laws? Yes. And the obtaining of that information in an illegal manner makes releasing it illegal. That's how it works.

You're right, this is no more illegal than guessing your friends password.

Basically it's a waste of taxpayer funded law enforcement to pursue.

 

[Amadeus]

Why do you think this is a liberal thing?

Are you saying conservatives support the KKK?

Well, the KKK is the logical conclusion to some conservative lines of thought, which is why it is composed of right-wing conservatives, and not liberals.

 

[blackjack50]

Exposing the KKK is "left wing terror"? How do you figure? Also you still did not explain how the group is "liberal"...

Did I claim the group is liberal? I stated liberals are supporting them.

But...They are engaged in left wing terror. And constantly targeting what would be classified as right wing groups or furthering left wing causes like anti establishment and anti corporation attack certainly pushes it to the left side of the spectrum.

And can you tell me what is ok about encouraging the endangering of someone's life by exposing their information just because you disagree with their viewpoint?

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Did I claim the group is liberal? I stated liberals are supporting them.

Well I asked, "Why does everyone think anonymous is "liberals"?"
And you responded with: "Currently being supported by liberals because it is currently conducting left wing terror."

But even if that is what you meant, there are many moderates, libertarians of all stripes, and im guessing some "conservatives" who are also supportive of this..... So can we quit with the overgeneralization?

But...They are engaged in left wing terror.

"Left wing terror"? What does this even mean? What makes it "left wing"? Simply because the Klan who is under threat of exposure is far right wing racists?

And constantly targeting what would be classified as right wing groups

So targeting far right wing groups makes it automatically liberal? So was the war against Nazi Germany or insert war against X right wing regime make it liberal?

or furthering left wing causes like anti establishment

Ummm....... "Anti-establishment" does not make one "liberal". I mean look at the race for the GOP presidential nomination.....

and anti corporation attack certainly pushes it to the left side of the spectrum.

Again. Targeting ceratin corporations for various reasons does not make one "left wing".. If they were doing it because of "anti-capitslim", sure. But they are doing it because of intrusive government spying and using corporations as a vehicle to spy on citizens... Thats more anti-authoritarianism (which is vertical on the political spectrum) and not left or right...

And can you tell me what is ok about encouraging the endangering of someone's life by exposing their information just because you disagree with their viewpoint?

Releasing names of terrorist group. I see nothing wrong with releasing names of individuals who are a part of a terrorist organization(s).

 

[bubbabgone]

The biggest story of the day on progressive and alternative websites is a shocking one: Anonymous has released the names of four Republican Senators and five Republican mayors who are members of the Ku Klux Klan. Sites giving exposure to this news include Daily Kos, PoliticsUSA, USA Today (?!), The Root, and The Huffington Post. The more careful outlets merely passed along the accusation without naming names, the less savory ones seemed honestly sold on the notion that four Republican senators are members of the KKK.

...

But even a cursory look at the lives and voting records of the accused should have clued people in. One, for example, voted for Martin Luther King Jr. Day to become a national holiday, a proposal that a sizeable minority actually opposed back in 1983. Why would a Klansman go out of his way to vote for a holiday that promotes racial harmony, instead of joining the 90 Congressmen who voted against it?

Another of the accused senators is Catholic. While the Klan’s anti-black activities are much more rampant and widespread, they are also virulently anti-Catholic.

Oh, and did I mention one of the accused mayors is openly gay? I don’t think that’s the kind of “flaming crosses” the Klan has in mind.

This is exactly the sort of situation to pull out Occam’s Razor. Which of these two possibilities really seems more likely:

Four separate individuals managed to conceal their membership in a white supremacist organization for decades from watchdog groups and the government alike, surviving dozens of primary and general elections alike without even a whiff of their extremely radical views ever being raised by anyone. Every one of these individuals lead extremely productive lives, attend elite universities, and two even become a U.S. Attorney and an ambassador to a major U.S. ally. But in an extremely sloppy move, they all sign up for KKK websites using emails that can easily be traced back to them.
Some kid on the Internet lied.

If You Really Think Four Republican Senators Are in the KKK, You?re a Fool | Mediaite

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

really???? then you should tell the KKK theyre in the wrong party

They are made up and supported by both parties. I have democrat friends who pull only the party lever and they are every bit as prejudice against other races and support the ideology or the KKK and white supremacy as any Klan members. I don't even waste my time arguing with these people and their beliefs. Most of them are the nicest church going people you know. Have they ever burned a cross or terrorized anyone? NO. But they still have their opinion and beliefs. Most hold them close to their vest and only let it out when they are around people they trust. Yes they trust me.

Their is a difference between reporting a crime and a squealer. I believe in reporting crimes and have done so. I do not believe in exposing peoples inner secrets and beliefs that they would like to keep private unless they are breaking a law. Beliefs and opinions are not violations of the law. I do believe in everyones right to privacy. If that is a conservative view then I support it.

 

[blackjack50]

Well I asked, "Why does everyone think anonymous is "liberals"?"
And you responded with: "Currently being supported by liberals because it is currently conducting left wing terror."

But even if that is what you meant, there are many moderates, libertarians of all stripes, and im guessing some "conservatives" who are also supportive of this..... So can we quit with the overgeneralization?


"Left wing terror"? What does this even mean? What makes it "left wing"? Simply because the Klan who is under threat of exposure is far right wing racists?

Really? They don't just target the KKK bud. They have a history.

So targeting far right wing groups makes it automatically liberal? So was the war against Nazi Germany or insert war against X right wing regime make it liberal?


Ummm....... "Anti-establishment" does not make one "liberal". I mean look at the race for the GOP presidential nomination.....

Establishments like corporations?

Again. Targeting ceratin corporations for various reasons does not make one "left wing".. If they were doing it because of "anti-capitslim", sure. But they are doing it because of intrusive government spying and using corporations as a vehicle to spy on citizens... Thats more anti-authoritarianism (which is vertical on the political spectrum) and not left or right...

And yet they target people on the right more often than the left.

Releasing names of terrorist group. I see nothing wrong with releasing names of individuals who are a part of a terrorist organization(s).

So if we began releasing the names of anonymous members? Furthermore you have no proof the names they intend to release are terrorists. Hell they may just be asshole racists. That isn't terrorism. That is being an asshole racist.

 

[Absentglare]

Did I claim the group is liberal? I stated liberals are supporting them.

But...They are engaged in left wing terror. And constantly targeting what would be classified as right wing groups or furthering left wing causes like anti establishment and anti corporation attack certainly pushes it to the left side of the spectrum.

And can you tell me what is ok about encouraging the endangering of someone's life by exposing their information just because you disagree with their viewpoint?

Can you tell me why a hate group who threatens their own lives with their own voluntary beliefs is deserving of special, taxpayer funded protections ?

 

[Absentglare]

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If You Really Think Four Republican Senators Are in the KKK, You?re a Fool | Mediaite

Oh he votes for another holiday?

Then he can't be racist! After all, a politician has never taken up a popular position that they do not believe in for votes!

 

[Absentglare]

They are made up and supported by both parties. I have democrat friends who pull only the party lever and they are every bit as prejudice against other races and support the ideology or the KKK and white supremacy as any Klan members. I don't even waste my time arguing with these people and their beliefs. Most of them are the nicest church going people you know. Have they ever burned a cross or terrorized anyone? NO. But they still have their opinion and beliefs. Most hold them close to their vest and only let it out when they are around people they trust. Yes they trust me.

Their is a difference between reporting a crime and a squealer. I believe in reporting crimes and have done so. I do not believe in exposing peoples inner secrets and beliefs that they would like to keep private unless they are breaking a law. Beliefs and opinions are not violations of the law. I do believe in everyones right to privacy. If that is a conservative view then I support it.

Democrats are as bad as the KKK.

KKK are nice, friendly church-goers who wouldn't hurt a fly.

And back to "it's not against the law to be racist," which would make sense if anonymous was pursuing some sort of legal, criminal charges against KKK members.

Lots of apologetics for the KKK, nothing of substance. How depressing.

 

[Ikari]

social vigilantism? thats a little dramatic don't you think? would you be saying the same thing if these guys were pedophiles or sex traffickers?

I said the same thing about them when they did it to Ashley Madison. This is social vigilantism, there's no drama there. It's just a statement of fact.

 

[Absentglare]

Really? They don't just target the KKK bud. They have a history.


Establishments like corporations?

And yet they target people on the right more often than the left.

So if we began releasing the names of anonymous members? Furthermore you have no proof the names they intend to release are terrorists. Hell they may just be asshole racists. That isn't terrorism. That is being an asshole racist.

Okay they have a history (and i'm just to busy to explain what that history is so just trust me they're left wing).

Corporations like ... aiplex software who launched denial of service attacks against the pirate bay ? Corporations that vigorously prosecute individuals for sharing information ? Corporations like paypal, mastercard, and visa who tried to silence WikiLeaks by cutting of services to them ?

Or is it that they're just too hard on (mainstream?) right wingers like the westboro baptist church and the KKK ?

Why would i care if people hacked anonymous and shared their names? Strawman! Information is free, this fetish of profits is disgusting.

 

[Absentglare]

I said the same thing about them when they did it to Ashley Madison. This is social vigilantism, there's no drama there. It's just a statement of fact.

Another word for that is social justice.

The kings and lords just hate when the peasants bother to pick up their pitchforks to fight for justice.

 

[Ikari]

Another word for that is social justice.

The kings and lords just hate when the peasants bother to pick up their pitchforks to fight for justice.

There's no justice in vigilantism.