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And the left does it to themselves - AGAIN, Portland will now have troops, and it will be a lot. And they did it to themselves.

Gatsby said:
I don't think anyone should attack federal buildings. 🤷‍♂️

What.

What.
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The first thing you thought of to respond to me - was an example of something the right did.
You not think of that? Why would that be your first way to go?

This thread is something I have been saying for a long time - with the knowledge that I did not want Trump to be President - I have been very clear on that since the day I first posted here. He is sure as hell better than Biden, but he is still a problem. He is too divisive. We need a unifier sooooo bad in this country - not someone who uses the other side as a means to increase his power. And the left are so ****ing easy to manipulate.
 
iamwhatiseem said:
The first thing you thought of to respond to me - was an example of something the right did.
You not think of that? Why would that be your first way to go?

This thread is something I have been saying for a long time - with the knowledge that I did not want Trump to be President - I have been very clear on that since the day I first posted here. He is sure as hell better than Biden, but he is still a problem. He is too divisive. We need a unifier sooooo bad in this country - not someone who uses the other side as a means to increase his power. And the left are so ****ing easy to manipulate.
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He's putting troops in our streets, destroying the first amendment, and has masked jackboots abducting random people off the street for the crime of being brown, and you still say he's better than Biden. You still blame the left for all of this.

This is why nobody is taking your claims seriously.
 
iamwhatiseem said:
The first thing you thought of to respond to me - was an example of something the right did.
You not think of that? Why would that be your first way to go?

This thread is something I have been saying for a long time - with the knowledge that I did not want Trump to be President - I have been very clear on that since the day I first posted here. He is sure as hell better than Biden, but he is still a problem. He is too divisive. We need a unifier sooooo bad in this country - not someone who uses the other side as a means to increase his power. And the left are so ****ing easy to manipulate.
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I think Donald Trump has agency over Donald Trump's actions. He isn't an NPC reflexively responding to the left's actions according to Newtonian laws of motion. 🤷‍♂️
 
Gatsby said:
I think Donald Trump has agency over Donald Trump's actions. He isn't an NPC reflexively responding to the left's actions according to Newtonian laws of motion. 🤷‍♂️
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No, that is what he does to the left. He makes them like an NPC to serve his purpose. And they fall for it every freaking time.
 
iamwhatiseem said:
No, that is what he does to the left. He makes them like an NPC to serve his purpose. And they fall for it every freaking time.
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Maybe I'm having a difficult time understanding your tone, but you seem to be quite delighted and triumphalist about that.

iamwhatiseem said:
Despite what he says, Trump does not have the authority to send the Nat Guard to a state unless the state agrees to it.
But - what he can do, is send in troops to protect federal agents and/or federal property.
This was Trump's plan. You could see it sure as shit as you can see the sun on a cloudless day.
But - he needed the left loons to cooperate. They needed to attack a federal building first.

THEY JUST DID. By this time next week, national guard will be patrolling their streets right next to ICE. And he could not have done it without the left.
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Like I said - they needed the leftist to cooperate.
Of course you haven't watched any of the MANY videos showing how Portland ICE are under constant attack by ANTIFA.
Because the left media doesn't show it. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Portlandians only have themselves to blame
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For someone who says they didn't want Donald Trump and he's too divisive and he doesn't have the authority to do this...you sure do come across as quite thrilled about it.

I think the president should obey the law.
 
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Gatsby said:
Maybe I'm having a difficult time understanding your tone, but you seem to be quite delighted and triumphalist about that.



For someone who says they didn't want Donald Trump and he's too divisive and he doesn't have the authority to do this...you sure do come across as quite thrilled about it.

I think the president should obey the law.
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The left's refusal to prosecute criminals is creating trauma and violence against innocent people.
My number one priority is protecting innocent people who are stuck in the wake of leftism's protecting criminals.
There is no argument to that.
Trump is using this condition to increase his power. He is a egomaniac. Also not arguable.
Read the book by Bill O'Reilly "Confronting Evil". He goes through the rise and fall of evil people throughout mankind and civilization.
Every single time - a person will rise to power using the failures of his adversary to get there. Without those failures - they would/will never rise.
The left's fault here - is their idealism. They don't want as many minorities in jail - so there answer is to simply not prosecute them. And then claim crime is lower. Chicago is the worst at this. Beetlejuice used this lie for her entire term - claiming crime is lower. Everyone knows it isn't! NYC - the same, Baltimore - the same, Portland - the same, San Francisco and L.A. - the same. They all hide their crimes this way.
Trump is using their egregious misuse of power - and making it his own. This is only going to happen more. And, one thing you are right about - people will applaud him doing it because IT WILL LOWER CRIME. IT WILL MAKE THEIR LIVES SAFER - but power will be centralized and what will the next President do with that power?
 
How many of these "you made me hit you" domestic abuse threads will we have to endure?
 
Helix said:
How many of these "you made me hit you" domestic abuse threads will we have to endure?
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As long as Trump is President? Or longer if JD wins.
 
Irredentist said:
That's up to the people. Portland belongs to the residents. Not to ICE.
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And the people, through their elected representatives, have spoken by enacting laws regarding immigration. These laws were passed in the constitutional order and apply nationwide. Portland can cry all they want.
 
Helix said:
How many of these "you made me hit you" domestic abuse threads will we have to endure?
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Again - your bias makes you unable to see there is fault on BOTH SIDES.
You simply can't accept that someone on your side is part of the problem. Can't do it. Won't do it.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
And the people, through their elected representatives, have spoken by enacting laws regarding immigration. These laws were passed in the constitutional order and apply nationwide. Portland can cry all they want.
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The law does not permit mass arrests of entire apartment complexes without a warrant.
 
iamwhatiseem said:
The left's refusal to prosecute criminals is creating trauma and violence against innocent people.
My number one priority is protecting innocent people who are stuck in the wake of leftism's protecting criminals.
There is no argument to that.
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My number one priority is having an administration that obeys the law instead of running the country as a tinpot dictator. 🤷‍♂️

Trump is using this condition to increase his power. He is a egomaniac. Also not arguable.
Read the book by Bill O'Reilly "Confronting Evil". He goes through the rise and fall of evil people throughout mankind and civilization. Every single time - a person will rise to power using the failures of his adversary to get there. Without those failures - they would/will never rise.
The left's fault here - is their idealism.
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It's pretty weird that you call Trump an "evil person" using the failures of his adversaries to seize power...and you STILL (seemingly?) cheer this on.

Beetlejuice used this lie for her entire term - claiming crime is lower. Everyone knows it isn't! NYC - the same, Baltimore - the same, Portland - the same, San Francisco and L.A. - the same. They all hide their crimes this way.
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I thought Beetlejuice only fought sandworms. He doesn't seem like he'd be very interested in urban governance.

Trump is using their egregious misuse of power - and making it his own. This is only going to happen more. And, one thing you are right about - people will applaud him doing it because IT WILL LOWER CRIME. IT WILL MAKE THEIR LIVES SAFER - but power will be centralized and what will the next President do with that power?
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If you support this, then just say so. And if you don't, then don't do the "Look what you made me do" routine.
 
iamwhatiseem said:
Again - your bias makes you unable to see there is fault on BOTH SIDES.
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No, there is not.

Pretending there is? It’s no different than claiming a woman deserved to get a black eye because dinner wasn’t on the table when her husband got home.
iamwhatiseem said:
You simply can't accept that someone on your side is part of the problem. Can't do it. Won't do it.
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Grizzly Adams said:
And the people, through their elected representatives, have spoken by enacting laws regarding immigration. These laws were passed in the constitutional order and apply nationwide. Portland can cry all they want.
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Is that why you're calling in the national guard? Is ICE scared of people crying?
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Yeah, I know.
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So that's the statement I was making, and you agreed it's wrong. But for some reason you wont actually call out the Trump administration for this.

I have no idea what else you're whining about.
 
Deuce said:
So that's the statement I was making, and you agreed it's wrong.
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And it has nothing to do with Portland's opposition to ICE's enforcement of longstanding immigration law.

Deuce said:
I have no idea what else you're whining about.
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That other thread you've stopped posting in, probably because you realized you were making up bullshit.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
I would generally agree with this statement.
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Generally? Might be ok though if the apartment building is full of black and brown people? I mean what does "generally" mean?
 
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