Analysis of Ballot Images in Georgia County Shows ‘Provable Fraud’ in Audit: Election Integrity Group

[Sand Castle]

It's not only Massachusetts where many people are questioning the integrity of the election. Millions of people nationwide are and that's a very big problem in itself. When Dems say it was fair yet adamantly fight audits, it only escalates the lack of voter confidence.

Yes wide spread trump delusional Americans are a problem.

Especially since the election has been fully vetted.

Let me give you a little dose of reality, if areas Trump won were scrutinized, insignificant irregularities would also be found.

But it takes dishonest or delusional person's to turn irregularities into widespread voting fraud.

 

[bubbabgone]

That fraud goes both ways. You would have to show that the entirety of the .002% of fraud was in a single spot, and all for Biden.

Not a single spot. Wouldn't work in a single spot. I said that in the post you replied to.

 

[Sand Castle]

It's not only Massachusetts where many people are questioning the integrity of the election. Millions of people nationwide are and that's a very big problem in itself. When Dems say it was fair yet adamantly fight audits, it only escalates the lack of voter confidence.

No Democrats welcomed the official bipartisan audits, I don't usually do what I am about to do but,

You are either lying, completely delusional or do not really pay attention and make your own conclusions on what actually happened

 

[gbg3]

No it really isn't a big problem except that we know it is because they are gullible and believe the lies that are being spread from the person who they wanted to win. They need justification for why others do not feel the same way they do, did not choose the same person. Those people feel that if they convince themselves they are in the majority, they must be right.

It's a huge problem. Election integrity is essential and voter confidence is important to the smooth functioning of a society. What we have right now is a divided mess full of doubt and concern - and it wasn't only in this last election. Our elections must be other than and better than - which party can out cheat the other.

 

[Cardinal]

Here's a fun fact.
Allowing for that 30,000 foot level analysis, that .002% fraud when applied to Biden's total would be over 150,000 fraudulent votes.

Actually, all of those 150,000 fraudulent votes went to Trump and Republican Senate candidates.

And it would only have taken around 30,000 votes in a few States to swing the election.

Specifically, to cause essential Democrat Senate candidates to lose.

Keep in mind, before accepting there was a serious attempt at an election fraud like that, one has to accept that the D Party would come prepared with that information beforehand so a "widespread" effort wouldn't be necessary. Just a focus on the heavy D areas with heavy D control in those target States.
Someone who isn't prepared to accept that possibility would post comments like you just did.

The irony is that Trump literally told his base to commit election fraud. Twice. Yet you think that Democrats are the ones who committed fraud.

 

[ClaraD]

That's funny... There is evidence and it was talked about in that report that you obviously didn't watch.

That's 1.

what evidence is that? Fulton is Atlanta, Georgia....whites are in the minority in this county and Republicans are not in the majority...it makes up 1/10 of the population of Georgia.

 

[roguenuke]

Not a single spot. Wouldn't work in a single spot. I said that in the post you replied to.

You also assumed that all those would be for Biden. So split it into 5, then do at least a 3/5 accounting on it (we could do more, since the evidence shows that Trump got at least 2 fraudulent votes admitted to). This gives about 18k votes max, and that is if the voter fraud affected the actual Presidential election only. That is not really what the evidence shows. Most voter fraud affects local elections more.

 

[Sand Castle]

Here's a fun fact.
Allowing for that 30,000 foot level analysis, that .002% fraud when applied to Biden's total would be over 150,000 fraudulent votes.
And it would only have taken around 30,000 votes in a few States to swing the election.
Keep in mind, before accepting there was a serious attempt at an election fraud like that, one has to accept that the D Party would come prepared with that information beforehand so a "widespread" effort wouldn't be necessary. Just a focus on the heavy D areas with heavy D control in those target States.
Someone who isn't prepared to accept that possibility would post comments like you just did.

You better relook at the numbers per State. You can't shift votes from one State to another, don't you know that?

 

[bubbabgone]

Actually, all of those 150,000 fraudulent votes went to Trump.



Specifically, to cause essential Democrat Senate candidates to lose.



The irony is that Trump literally told his base to commit election fraud. Twice. Yet you think that Democrats are the ones who committed fraud.

Imaginary analysis is worse than 30,000 foot analysis.

 

[roguenuke]

It's a huge problem. Election integrity is essential and voter confidence is important to the smooth functioning of a society. What we have right now is a divided mess full of doubt and concern - and it wasn't only in this last election. Our elections must be other than and better than - which party can out cheat the other.

You can't convince people who are determined to not accept anything but their own conclusion that there was voter fraud that there wasn't significant voter fraud. It is trying to convince conspiracy theorists to give up their narratives. Ever argued with a 9/11 Truther? You won't get anywhere because no matter how much you show them they are full of it, they continue to claim BS means they are correct. Same with these claims regarding voter fraud.

 

[Cardinal]

Imaginary analysis is worse than 30,000 foot analysis.

Are you denying that Trump told his base to commit election fraud?

 

[bubbabgone]

You better relook at the numbers per State. You can't shift votes from one State to another, don't you know that?

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[ModG23]

It's a huge problem. Election integrity is essential and voter confidence is important to the smooth functioning of a society. What we have right now is a divided mess full of doubt and concern - and it wasn't only in this last election. Our elections must be other than and better than - which party can out cheat the other.

If more than half of Republican think there was fraud simply because they support and believe Trump that explains the majority.

“While 60% of Americans overall believe President Joe Biden fairly won the presidential election, 60% of Republicans instead believe Trump’s claims that Biden’s win was due to widespread voter fraud despite a lack of credible evidence.”


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TOPLINE​

A majority of Republicans still believe the baseless claim that the presidential election was “stolen” from President Donald Trump and approximately half believe his spin on the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol building, a new Reuters/Ipsos pollfound, showing Trump’s continued influence on the party and how the ex-president’s falsehoods about the election and its aftermath have taken hold among his supporters.”

More Than Half Of Republicans Believe Voter Fraud Claims And Most Still Support Trump, Poll Finds

Approximately half believed the ex-president’s claims that the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol building was nonviolent or the work of left-wing activists.

www.forbes.com

 

[Sand Castle]

It's a huge problem. Election integrity is essential and voter confidence is important to the smooth functioning of a society. What we have right now is a divided mess full of doubt and concern - and it wasn't only in this last election. Our elections must be other than and better than - which party can out cheat the other.

All caused by one destructive manchild and his minions with rubes as icing on the cake

 

[Sand Castle]

What the hell are you talking about?

Exactly you don't have a clue on the voting math.

But hey, if you have some voter fraud that has been proven following bipartisan election recounts and audits, then I would welcome removing or shifting those voteds and recalculate.

 

[bubbabgone]

You also assumed that all those would be for Biden. So split it into 5, then do at least a 3/5 accounting on it (we could do more, since the evidence shows that Trump got at least 2 fraudulent votes admitted to). This gives about 18k votes max, and that is if the voter fraud affected the actual Presidential election only. That is not really what the evidence shows. Most voter fraud affects local elections more.

If a Fulton County GA Democrat stronghold wants to swing or create 15,000 votes for their candidate it takes preparation. It's not done only on election night.
How much ballot harvesting fraud was there?

 

[bubbabgone]

Are you denying that Trump told his base to commit election fraud?

Haven't seen that quote.

 

[bubbabgone]

Exactly you don't have a clue on the voting math

You're supposed to read the comment you reply to until you understand it. Then reply.

 

[roguenuke]

What the hell are you talking about?

You are trying to claim that about 150k votes were fraudulent and that matters. It doesn't matter unless you can show that they were spread out only among 5 states, those 5 states being checked, in any significant degree. In reality, they should be much closer to proportional for states, which would mean that you would have to divide that number by about 50 (weight states according to population). California, Illinois, Florida, New York and Texas should have most of that fraud. About 36%. So now we are at about 96k, even if we round that up, it is 100k for the other 45 states + DC. Now remove some for the bottom let's say 11 since none of those states are in that group and they have really small populations comparatively. About 3.5%. Giving us about 95K votes left for 35 states. That's about 3k fraudulent votes per state tops.

 

[ClaraD]

a segment by a sensationalist that admits to lying isn't what we should want to discuss....let's discuss facts, evidence and what was filed

 

[SCrider]

Haven't seen that quote.

trump-encourages-supporters-to-try-to-vote-twice-sparking-uproar-idUSKBN25U0KK

I know he was joking, right?

 

[roguenuke]

If a Fulton County GA Democrat stronghold wants to swing or create 15,000 votes for their candidate it takes preparation. It's not done only on election night.
How much ballot harvesting fraud was there?

You don't have any evidence that a) only those states that are questioned held the majority of those potential 150k fraudulent votes, nor that b) they all would have gone mostly to Biden. That wouldn't be 15k votes at all. It would be maybe 3k potentially fraudulent votes total. And from the evidence we do have, shown in this thread, it appears at least one, likely some were fraudulent for Trump, not Biden. That would mean that you would have to do the 3/5 things, you could even make it 4/5ths on 3k to determine some huge probability of fraudulent votes for Biden, and you would still not get enough to change the election in enough states.

 

[Sand Castle]

You're supposed to read the comment you reply to until you understand it. Then reply.

Let me make this simple,

show me the State, I guess all States were good except where Trump lost,

so show me the States where 30,000 votes would swing their electoral college and then let's see those 30,000 fraudulent votes.

Did you not say their was 150,000?

How did you divide that between States, did you use all State's?

My calculations are 3000 votes per State. How the hell is 3000 votes/ State going to swing an election.

 

[roguenuke]

Let me make this simple,

show me the State, I guess all States were good except where Trump lost,

so show me the States where 30,000 votes would swing their electoral college and then let's see those 30,000 fraudulent votes.

Did you not say their was 150,000?

How did you divide that between States, did you use all State's?

My calculations are 3000 votes per State. How the hell is 3000 votes/ State going to swing an election.

Technically, we should weight each state based on the percentage of the vote they provide. So Georgia should be about 3.20% of the total of that 150k potential. That's about 4800 for Georgia. Biden won by 11k votes in Georgia. Even if we moved that up to 5% (far above where it should be weighted relatively speaking), it would still be only about 7200 votes. And that's if they all were fraudulent votes for Biden.

 

[Cardinal]

Haven't seen that quote.

"On your ballots, if you get the unsolicited ballots, send it in and then go make sure it counted, and then if it doesn’t tabulate, you vote. You just vote. And then if they tabulate it very late, which they shouldn’t be doing, they’ll see you voted and so it won’t count. So, send it in early, and then go and vote. And if it’s not tabulated, you vote, and the vote is gonna count. You can’t let them take your vote away. These people are playing dirty politics. Dirty politics.

So if you have an absentee ballot, or as I call it a solicited ballot, you send it in. But I would check it in any event. I would go and follow it and go vote. And everybody here wants to vote. We vote the old fashioned way. You know, we voted in World War I, we voted in World War II, we’re gonna see some great World War II heroes right now. But we voted in World War II. And today they want to give everybody ballots. And every place where they’ve done it, it’s been a mess. It’s been a mess. They don’t know where they are. They don’t know who they’re sending them to, it’s a terrible thing. Follow your ballot and vote. That’s very important, I think everybody understands."

And before you say "So he didn't tell his base to commit 'election fraud,'" if they had done as he told them to do the result would have been election fraud.

And before you say "He was just telling them to make sure their votes were counted," the end result would still have been election fraud.

Also, do you pay your taxes twice to make sure they're paid? I'm going to guess not.