An Open Letter to the Colluding Press

[Conservative]

So what are the Russians doing? Wasting their time and resources for no good reason?

I believe you are helping the Russians achieve their goal of creating chaos. This obviously is a major issue for you but you don't understand the consequences of your actions. Trump is President, he was duly elected and you will have a chance to get him out of office in 2020. Do you have any idea what Impeachment would do to this country, the economy, the stock market over what appears to be an issue of propaganda released to influence voters? You have no proof that any votes were changed and only that a country that isn't even a threat to us any more with 143 million people submitted internet propaganda to create chaos. They have been successful with your support

 

[Conservative]

Sorry, honey bunny all they are doing is redoing and remodeling existing structures. Nothing has been allocated for the wall. We just need to wait for Mexico to pay for it.

Looks like construction to me honey and only a start. Been in office 1 1/2 years and has met resistance from the socialist republic of California but progress is being made. 147 million sounds like progress to me

 

[Floridafan]

No one ever said you were very bright, in fact you dont even bother to read what your handlers give you to post:

"It will replace a long stretch of 8-to-10-foot-high metal fencing that was built in the 1990s out of scrap metal and repurposed steel plates. Rusted and wobbly in places, the old wall has been no match for drug smugglers and human traffickers."

 

[Conservative]

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Do you know how ignorant you sound? Probably not because you apparently haven't had an original thought in a while. The IOU's you are talking about are written by the U.S. Government to the SS Trust Fund. If I write you an IOU and give it to you it doesn't mean you are in debt. That is just stupid. It means I am in debt. The SS Trust Fund is not in debt. The U.S. government is in debt to the SS Trust Fund. The only one blinded by hatred here is you. Also Job growth under Trump is still at or below the average set by Obama. So nothing has changed on the job growth front under Trump. He still riding on Obama's coattails.

You really think I gave a damn what a very liberal radical socialist thinks of my rhetoric? You keep diverting from the thread topic with charges showing just how radical the left is, a person in this country is innocent until PROVEN guilty but you have already convicted Trump based solely on hatred and the throwing of a temper tantrum over election results.

IOU's have to be funded, how do you fund IOU's when you current have a 21 trillion dollar official debt? Your total economic ignorance is staggering.

I have always given Obama credit for giving us Trump and have yet to see the actual results or any context to those results posted by you radicals. Should be easy to post the booming economic trends and job creation Obama generated especially fond of the part time jobs Obama created. You see, results have no place in the liberal world where rhetoric and radicalism exists.

Why is it there never are any consequences for the failure of liberal policies in your world?

 

[Conservative]

No one ever said you were very bright, in fact you dont even bother to read what your handlers give you to post:

"It will replace a long stretch of 8-to-10-foot-high metal fencing that was built in the 1990s out of scrap metal and repurposed steel plates. Rusted and wobbly in places, the old wall has been no match for drug smugglers and human traffickers."

Looks like an improvement to me and part of the wall project but keep digging and ignoring the thread topic as to the actual results generated in 1 1/2 years. Obviously there is something in the liberal drinking water that creates cult followers like you. Any idea what Impeachment will do to this country, our economy, the stock market and to the results already generated all because you lost an election?

 

[Conservative]

You really seem to underestimate the power of words. Many wars have been waged and many countries brought to ruin because of subtle misunderstandings on the uses of words. Words are not inconsequential. Be careful with underestimating their power. Especially when they come from the president of the most powerful country on the planet. Words matter.

But words never win debates, court cases and are only of value to ignorant people who never research and verify the accuracy. Be careful in promoting ignorance

 

[Conservative]

No one ever said you were very bright, in fact you dont even bother to read what your handlers give you to post:

"It will replace a long stretch of 8-to-10-foot-high metal fencing that was built in the 1990s out of scrap metal and repurposed steel plates. Rusted and wobbly in places, the old wall has been no match for drug smugglers and human traffickers."

Looks to me like Progress is being made HOWEVER as has been proven over and over again you know nothing about civics or how our govt. operates, Congress has to approve the money as the President doesn't have that authority nor much the authority to implement concerns you have

https://www.facebook.com/fox46charl...pes-along-us-mexico-border/10159654884805553/

 

[Floridafan]

Looks to me like Progress is being made HOWEVER as has been proven over and over again you know nothing about civics or how our govt. operates, Congress has to approve the money as the President doesn't have that authority nor much the authority to implement concerns you have

https://www.facebook.com/fox46charl...pes-along-us-mexico-border/10159654884805553/

Prototypes my dear from long ago. Nothing has been allocated by Congress and nothing will ever will be. If Congress was so keen on the idea they would have funded it long ago. Time is running out for funding. Why hasn't Mexico paid yet. you never seem to answer that, Homer.

 

[Conservative]

Prototypes my dear from long ago. Nothing has been allocated by Congress and nothing will ever will be. If Congress was so keen on the idea they would have funded it long ago. Time is running out for funding. Why hasn't Mexico paid yet. you never seem to answer that, Homer.

You spend way too much time here and not enough time verifying what you post before making a fool of yourself. 1.6 billion has been allocated and is being spent. It does appear that nothing Trump does is ever going to change your mind which makes you a waste of time. I have posted a link to the results that have been generated by Trump in 1 1/2 years, now if you want to discuss those or try to disprove those, be my guest, but we are done chasing leftwing witches that have absolutely nothing to do with the thread topic or leftwing hatred for the Trump personality

 

[Floridafan]

You spend way too much time here and not enough time verifying what you post before making a fool of yourself. 1.6 billion has been allocated and is being spent. It does appear that nothing Trump does is ever going to change your mind which makes you a waste of time. I have posted a link to the results that have been generated by Trump in 1 1/2 years, now if you want to discuss those or try to disprove those, be my guest, but we are done chasing leftwing witches that have absolutely nothing to do with the thread topic or leftwing hatred for the Trump personality

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The money allocated has NOTHING to do with a new wall, it only repairs what is currently standing. Absolutely nothing has been allocated for a new wall and nothing will ever be.

 

[Conservative]

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The money allocated has NOTHING to do with a new wall, it only repairs what is currently standing. Absolutely nothing has been allocated for a new wall and nothing will ever be.

That is your opinion and ignores reality as usual. Doesn't really matter as nothing Trump does is ever going to satisfy you as you never answer the question as to what Trump has actually done that has hurt you, your family, or the country and rhetoric doesn't count, actions do

 

[Floridafan]

That is your opinion and ignores reality as usual. Doesn't really matter as nothing Trump does is ever going to satisfy you as you never answer the question as to what Trump has actually done that has hurt you, your family, or the country and rhetoric doesn't count, actions do

Crimes are crimes, sweetie, and they need to be punished whether they affect me or not. Using your convoluted BS, Al Capone didn't commit any crimes since they never affected me or my family.

 

[roguenuke]

So the leftwing agenda this fall is going to rest on the slogan, "we hate Trump and tried to protect Republicans from allowing you to keep more of your own money,, vote for me!!" Now there is a winning slogan. Not sure exactly what you want as you have never said other than hating Trump and wanting him out of office for exactly what. The results posted have yet to be refuted and benefit all Americans and that is what will be on the ballot this fall, NOT TRUMP

Do you just enjoy making crap up? That isn't even close to what I posted.

I have actually not said that I hate Trump, only that I don't like him and listed reasons why I don't like him. I have even posted reasons that I want him out of office.

The results posted have been refuted, multiple times, you just refuse to recognize that.

 

[smb]

You really think I gave a damn what a very liberal radical socialist thinks of my rhetoric? You keep diverting from the thread topic with charges showing just how radical the left is, a person in this country is innocent until PROVEN guilty but you have already convicted Trump based solely on hatred and the throwing of a temper tantrum over election results.

IOU's have to be funded, how do you fund IOU's when you current have a 21 trillion dollar official debt? Your total economic ignorance is staggering.

I have always given Obama credit for giving us Trump and have yet to see the actual results or any context to those results posted by you radicals. Should be easy to post the booming economic trends and job creation Obama generated especially fond of the part time jobs Obama created. You see, results have no place in the liberal world where rhetoric and radicalism exists.

Why is it there never are any consequences for the failure of liberal policies in your world?

Ok once more for the totally obtuse....The U.S. Government is the one in debt. They issued the IOU's to the SS Trust Fund. The SS Trust Fund is completely healthy. If you have a problem with government debt then you have problem with President Trump. The deficit has done nothing but balloon under him.

Also again your numbers are off. There has not been 4M in job growth. The number is 3.4M under Trump. 3.4M does not equal 4M unless you grade on the same curve that got Trump into business school.

Also the average job growth under Trump has been 190K jobs per month. Job growth under President Obama minus the 2008 depression of which President Obama dragged us out of I might add equals 189.9K per month. So again Trump is equal to President Obama and is apparently still riding the coattails of President Obama.

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001?output_view=net_1mth

 

[Conservative]

Crimes are crimes, sweetie, and they need to be punished whether they affect me or not. Using your convoluted BS, Al Capone didn't commit any crimes since they never affected me or my family.

Got it, what crimes has Trump been charged with and convicted of? Thanks in advance

 

[Conservative]

Do you just enjoy making crap up? That isn't even close to what I posted.

I have actually not said that I hate Trump, only that I don't like him and listed reasons why I don't like him. I have even posted reasons that I want him out of office.

The results posted have been refuted, multiple times, you just refuse to recognize that.

No, the results haven't been refuted with data, only opinions. Post the official data that refutes any of those accomplishments. seems that data doesn't exist in the liberal world

 

[Conservative]

Ok once more for the totally obtuse....The U.S. Government is the one in debt. They issued the IOU's to the SS Trust Fund. The SS Trust Fund is completely healthy. If you have a problem with government debt then you have problem with President Trump. The deficit has done nothing but balloon under him.

Also again your numbers are off. There has not been 4M in job growth. The number is 3.4M under Trump. 3.4M does not equal 4M unless you grade on the same curve that got Trump into business school.

Also the average job growth under Trump has been 190K jobs per month. Job growth under President Obama minus the 2008 depression of which President Obama dragged us out of I might add equals 189.9K per month. So again Trump is equal to President Obama and is apparently still riding the coattails of President Obama.

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001?output_view=net_1mth

One more time, how are IOU's funded?? Do you take an IOU to the grocery store or pay your rent with it? So they have been guaranteed, the money to fund those IOU's has to be borrowed or printed both hurting you and your pocketbook

The deficit hasn't ballooned under Trump as you have only posted opinions and predictions not data nor do you understand the context of that data, 500 billion of fiscal year 2018 debt is debt service on the DEBT TRUMP INHERITED

So regarding job creation is BLS lying

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS12000000
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Years: 2008 to 2018

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2008 146378 146156 146086 146132 145908 145737 145532 145203 145076 144802 144100 143369
2009 142152 141640 140707 140656 140248 140009 139901 139492 138818 138432 138659 138013
2010 138438 138581 138751 139297 139241 139141 139179 139438 139396 139119 139044 139301
2011 139250 139394 139639 139586 139624 139384 139524 139942 140183 140368 140826 140902
2012 141584 141858 142036 141899 142206 142391 142292 142291 143044 143431 143333 143330
2013 143292 143362 143316 143635 143882 143999 144264 144326 144418 143537 144479 144778
2014 145122 145161 145673 145680 145825 146267 146401 146522 146752 147411 147391 147597
2015 148113 148100 148175 148505 148788 148806 148830 149136 148810 149254 149486 150135
2016 150576 151005 151229 150978 151048 151164 151484 151687 151815 151939 152126 152233
2017 152076 152511 153064 153161 152892 153250 153511 153471 154324 153846 153917 154021
2018 154430 155215 155178 155181 155474 155576 155965

This is data and verifiable. you offer nothing but opinions

Average job growth in full employment is irrelevant the quality of the jobs matters. Not only has Trump created almost 4 million jobs, most of them are full time not the part time ones from Obama, and we have had significant growth in manufacturing and mining, all high paying jobs. Federal FIT revenue is up even with the tax cuts, how do you explain it?

Buy the way there was NO DEPRESSION just leftwing marketing of a bad recession that didn't affect you at all. You believe that Obama took employment up 14 million when the reality is the starting point should have been the pre recession numbers of 146 million as those were the Democratic Numbers when the recession began. You don't create jobs to get back to what was lost

 

[roguenuke]

No, the results haven't been refuted with data, only opinions. Post the official data that refutes any of those accomplishments. seems that data doesn't exist in the liberal world

It has been posted. It is the info that shows that everything you attribute to Trump started before he took office. You have failed to show that that economic trend would not have continued without Trump as President nor that it got significantly better with him as President in a way that would not have happened without him.

 

[Conservative]

It has been posted. It is the info that shows that everything you attribute to Trump started before he took office. You have failed to show that that economic trend would not have continued without Trump as President nor that it got significantly better with him as President in a way that would not have happened without him.

That being the case, post the data to support it because I don't believe the 1.8% GDP growth in 2016 and 1.2% Growth along with a 9.4% U-6 rate is an indication of successful economic policy or growth that you want to tout? You believe Obama brought us out of the recession when the calendar and TARP tell a different story so it is going to be always that you buy what you want to believe and actually ignore official data

 

[Conservative]

It has been posted. It is the info that shows that everything you attribute to Trump started before he took office. You have failed to show that that economic trend would not have continued without Trump as President nor that it got significantly better with him as President in a way that would not have happened without him.

Oh, by the way absolutely how amazing the Obama results are AFTER he left office so just think how great they might have been had he left earlier?

 

[ataraxia]

I believe you are helping the Russians achieve their goal of creating chaos. This obviously is a major issue for you but you don't understand the consequences of your actions. Trump is President, he was duly elected and you will have a chance to get him out of office in 2020. Do you have any idea what Impeachment would do to this country, the economy, the stock market over what appears to be an issue of propaganda released to influence voters? You have no proof that any votes were changed and only that a country that isn't even a threat to us any more with 143 million people submitted internet propaganda to create chaos. They have been successful with your support

So just to be straight: you agree that Russia interfered in a closely contested election, and they are doing it again now, and you think we should just kinda turn a blind eye and shrug it off because it will create chaos.

OK. So would you be OK with all this if next time Mr. Putin favors the Democratic candidate? Remember, once you have sold your soul to the devil, you won't be able to get it back.

 

[roguenuke]

Oh, by the way absolutely how amazing the Obama results are AFTER he left office so just think how great they might have been had he left earlier?

They aren't Obama's results. They are the results of actual cooperation between the government bodies, a better economy developing in other countries, especially what was our strongest allies (before Trump), and people actually working to get back to work, working new ways to save a buck. But this all came before Trump. You have failed to show that anything he has done actually led to any of those results you are putting out. Like I said, there is a reason that rational, intelligent people do not support Trump, at least the majority don't support him anyway.

 

[Conservative]

So just to be straight: you agree that Russia interfered in a closely contested election, and they are doing it again now, and you think we should just kinda turn a blind eye and shrug it off because it will create chaos.

OK. So would you be OK with all this if next time Mr. Putin favors the Democratic candidate? Remember, once you have sold your soul to the devil, you won't be able to get it back.

My definition of interference includes

intrusion, intervention, intercession, involvement, meddling, prying; informal butting in
None of which is illegal and none of which changed any votes and none of which provides action.

Don't give a crap about rhetoric never has and never will. Learn to trust BUT VERIFY is what I was taught so tell me how the Russian propaganda affected you. It certainly didn't change my vote

 

[Conservative]

They aren't Obama's results. They are the results of actual cooperation between the government bodies, a better economy developing in other countries, especially what was our strongest allies (before Trump), and people actually working to get back to work, working new ways to save a buck. But this all came before Trump. You have failed to show that anything he has done actually led to any of those results you are putting out. Like I said, there is a reason that rational, intelligent people do not support Trump, at least the majority don't support him anyway.

They are results generated by the private sector that knew they wouldn't be penalized for positive performance and that class warfare legislation wouldn't be initiated. You don't seem to understand incentive or how it works which probably says a lot about you in real life. Trump's reversal of the Obama anti Growth EO's, elimination of the ACA mandate taxes, and relieving federal environmental regulations are what the private sector reacted to. I was in that sector for over 35 years and know what motivates them. Profit isn't a four letter word and is what makes the private sector viable and this country the greatest on the face of the earth. Stop trying to penalize people for generating personal wealth and stop judging people by what they earn and what they have. Celebrate success

 

[Conservative]

So just to be straight: you agree that Russia interfered in a closely contested election, and they are doing it again now, and you think we should just kinda turn a blind eye and shrug it off because it will create chaos.

OK. So would you be OK with all this if next time Mr. Putin favors the Democratic candidate? Remember, once you have sold your soul to the devil, you won't be able to get it back.

So just to be straight any time I disagree with you and present propaganda to support my point of view or to try and change your mind I am interfering with you? Rhetoric really bothers you, why are you so insecure?