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[Plasmaball]

I'm saying that if parents are provided the lesson plans, that might answer some of the questions that teachers have to field from parents day in and day out. It would also allow the parents to see what's upcoming so they can find ways to supplement their child's learning through things at home. How is that a bad thing? LOL?

In the same way those two parents are about the black cat.

You are all over the map here

 

[Parrish]

But they aren't controlling things................................ they just want to.

You're teaching in Canada now? Your posts don't reflect what my Canadian friends say about their kids' schools and policies.

 

[Josie]

In the same way those two parents are about the black cat.

You are all over the map here

Explain.

 

[Josie]

You're teaching in Canada now? Your posts don't reflect what my Canadian friends say about their kids' schools and policies.

Hello, Parrish!

 

[JMR]

Of course work is still sent home and notes about upcoming events are given. I don't think it's a ridiculous request at all. I actually think it would be helpful to the parents and to the teachers as well. The parents would have a heads up on what their child will be learning that week and the teachers won't have to respond to as many questions or emails from parents (When is the spelling test again? Johnny never told me a project was due Friday!, etc. etc.) Of course, it helps when the parents actually READ the notes...............................



That is definitely not my teaching style at all. I always have a "Wonder" box in my room. Whenever the kiddos have a question pop in their head -- "I wonder how gum is made?" -- they write it, put it in the box and then on Fridays (usually) we pull out a few and discuss them.

If I ever had to teach Direct Instruction --- ugh --- I'm quitting.

I think you've run into a generation of very entitled parents, who seem to not take much responsibility. And if you would like to supply them with daily lesson plans, go ahead. Helping incompetent parents and appeasing culture warriors are two different issues, that seem to cross path unfortunately.

My objection is that kids should not spend 7 hours a day in a preplanned environment. Sounds quite dead, and un kid like to me.

You wonder box is nice...answers every day would be better, JMO. Are no questions ever entertained during "lessons"?

 

[Gnosis]

Schools are local..the idea they don't run things is silly. Worlds changed..people have entitlement issues for days in this country

So true. I was just talking to a coworker today about entitlement. It is off the charts in the US.

 

[Josie]

I think you've run into a generation of very entitled parents, who seem to not take much responsibility. And if you would like to supply them with daily lesson plans, go ahead. Helping incompetent parents and appeasing culture warriors are two different issues, that seem to cross path unfortunately.

My objection is that kids should not spend 7 hours a day in a preplanned environment. Sounds quite dead, and un kid like to me.

Agreed. Lesson plans should still be followed to ensure that you're teaching what needs to be taught.

You wonder box is nice...answers every day would be better, JMO.

I've tried that. I like to really go into each question, show them how to look things up on the internet or in books or asking an expert -- it's better to do it on a Friday. We have a little "Wonder Questions" segment of the day.

Are no questions ever entertained during "lessons"?

Ha. Of course. The "wonder" questions are just for random questions that pop into their heads during the day.

 

[Plasmaball]

Explain.

Lesson plans are gonna create more pf those parents you want to shut up. People feel entitled now to speak up over everything.

 

[Josie]

Lesson plans are gonna create more pf those parents you want to shut up. People feel entitled now to speak up over everything.

Maybe. I still see it as a positive for those parents who just want to help their child.

 

[JMR]

Agreed. Lesson plans should still be followed to ensure that you're teaching what needs to be taught.



I've tried that. I like to really go into each question, show them how to look things up on the internet or in books or asking an expert -- it's better to do it on a Friday. We have a little "Wonder Questions" segment of the day.



Ha. Of course. The "wonder" questions are just for random questions that pop into their heads during the day.

Well great! We are agreed. And the culture warriors will like to know all the details of those Fridays, to ensure no indoctrination is occurring. And that is the crux of my complaint.

 

[Josie]

Well great! We are agreed. And the culture warriors will like to know all the details of those Fridays, to ensure no indoctrination is occurring. And that is the crux of my complaint.

Well, then they'll have to come sit in my classroom on Fridays.

I think the two types of parents are easily distinguished.

Undoubtedly.

 

[JMR]

Maybe. I still see it as a positive for those parents who just want to help their child.

I think the two types of parents are easily distinguished.

 

[JMR]

Well, then they'll have to come sit in my classroom on Fridays.

You seem quite willing to accommodate them. Do you think their presence might change the climate in the classroom?

 

[Josie]

You seem quite willing to accommodate them. Do you think their presence might change the climate in the classroom?

I'm quite willing to be very open with them, yes. If they really want to come into a classroom with 19 six year olds every single Friday - okay. I'm going to guess they might do it once and then be done with it.

Second question -- depends on their demeanor, behavior, etc.

 

[Parrish]

Hello, Parrish!

How do you like living and working in Canada? Has it been a culture shock?

 

[Josie]

How do you like living and working in Canada? Has it been a culture shock?

Hi!

 

[JMR]

I'm quite willing to be very open with them, yes. If they really want to come into a classroom with 19 six year olds every single Friday - okay. I'm going to guess they might do it once and then be done with it.

Second question -- depends on their demeanor, behavior, etc.

OK....kudos for your confidence developed over many years. How do you think new teachers might feel about parent observations? What about your administrators?

If their demeanor proves a negative influence over your lesson...which I'm sure the kids have looked forward to...do you kick them out?

My question boils down to "Why do you give these people this power?" They are clearly out of line.

 

[Josie]

OK....kudos for your confidence developed over many years. How do you think new teachers might feel about parent observations?

Uneasy, nervous, etc.

What about your administrators?

Depends on the parents............. heh, heh. Most of the unruly parents are all talk and no action. Most just want to bitch and moan on Facebook instead of actually talking to someone face-to-face about it.

If their demeanor proves a negative influence over your lesson...which I'm sure the kids have looked forward to...do you kick them out?

Of course. No reason to ruin our fun Fridays.

 

[JMR]

OK....kudos for your confidence developed over many years. How do you think new teachers might feel about parent observations? What about your administrators?

If their demeanor proves a negative influence over your lesson...which I'm sure the kids have looked forward to...do you kick them out?

Uneasy, nervous, etc.



Depends on the parents............. heh, heh. Most of the unruly parents are all talk and no action. Most just want to bitch and moan on Facebook instead of actually talking to someone face-to-face about it.



Of course. No reason to ruin our fun Fridays.

Noteworthy that YOUR line is kicking them out if they negatively affect your lesson. Have they reached the end of the line in their right to know what happens in their child's class?

I'm not buying the whole "transparency" line here. Parents should not be micromanaging their children's school education, and teachers shouldn't be encouraging them to do so. But it's been an interesting conversation...

 

[Plasmaball]

Maybe. I still see it as a positive for those parents who just want to help their child.

Double edge sword.

 

[Josie]

Noteworthy that YOUR line is kicking them out if they negatively affect your lesson.

Why wouldn't it be? If they have a problem with that, they can discuss it with an administrator.

Have they reached the end of the line in their right to know what happens in their child's class?

If they're disruptive, they shouldn't be allowed in the classroom.

I'm not buying the whole "transparency" line here.

Why not?

Parents should not be micromanaging their children's school education,

Agreed. They should, however, be allowed to know what's being taught.

and teachers shouldn't be encouraging them to do so.

Agreed. They should, however, be encouraging parents to be involved, ask questions, etc. so that they understand how their child learns and what they can do at home to continue that learning.

But it's been an interesting conversation...

Yes, it has. I enjoyed it!

 

[reflechissez]

You people are doing a shitty job of teaching our kids, and their math and grammar skills are worst than third world countries. Why don't you do a better job; either you can't or won't. Which is it?

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Teachers should have daily lesson plans whether parents want to see them or not.

But the question is, on balance is it a positive for those daily lesson plans to be posted publicly so that parents can potentially criticize them on a daily. I don’t know of any public service on earth that does well with that kind of micromanagement.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

I'm saying that if parents are provided the lesson plans, that might answer some of the questions that teachers have to field from parents day in and day out. It would also allow the parents to see what's upcoming so they can find ways to supplement their child's learning through things at home. How is that a bad thing? LOL?

I think you are being facetious. You know as well as I do that the vast majority of parents would not view those lesson plans on a daily basis like that, but rather a small percentage would look at them for anything they found objectionable they could use for whatever culture war whipping post they have going. We only need to look at the fact that this is largely being pushed by religious right and alt right activists.

 

[Josie]

I think you are being facetious. You know as well as I do that the vast majority of parents would not view those lesson plans on a daily basis like that, but rather a small percentage would look at them for anything they found objectionable they could use for whatever culture war whipping post they have going. We only need to look at the fact that this is largely being pushed by religious right and alt right activists.

The vast majority wouldn't look at the lesson plans on a daily basis, agreed. A small percentage would look for positive reasons and a small percentage would look for negative reasons. Still, they should be available if any parent wants to view them.