American Citizen Murdered by Israeli Settler Lynch Mob in the West Bank

[bomberfox]

• Airbnb, Booking.com, and Expedia: These platforms have been criticized for listing properties and accommodations in illegal Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank.
• https://www.axios.com/2024/11/18/us-sanctions-occupied-west-bank-construction-companies

Genocide and colonialism has historically been financed by corporate interests. To end genocides around the world corporations must be brought to heel.

 

[cpwill]

It is a systemic problem im afraid for palestinians in the west bank. Many Americans often go to israel to aid in the displacement. Justice is rarely ever done and the IDF usually stands there watching the settlers attack palestinians in the west bank so no Israel does not treat Palestinians as equals

Israel does not treat Palestinians as equals, agreed; they are not Israeli citizens. I am not aware offhand of any countries that do treat non-citizens equally to how they treat citizens, though I suppose it's possible out there.

So it seems entirely plausible that, while Israel does arrest and prosecute settlers for violence against Palestinians, we would get violence that goes unprosecuted. It would be interesting is to see how that stacks up against other accusations of violence in Israel. I've seen the "only 3% convictions" thrown around, but, that's a BS number based on counting all complaints, pretending they are all about actionable violence, assuming they all have sufficient evidence to prosecute, and then they are all prosecuted.

Regardless, however, it doesn't exactly change the point being made.

Louis Theroux and The Settlers: The BBC Documentary That Paints Every Israeli as an Extremist | HonestReporting

Louis Theroux first visited the West Bank in 2011 to film a documentary titled Louis and the Ultra-Zionists, part of his long-running series for the BBC.

honestreporting.com

Well, I wholeheartedly agree that the BBC has serious problems. The way this source opens:

Louis Theroux first visited the West Bank in 2011 to film a documentary titled Louis and the Ultra-Zionists, part of his long-running series for the BBC. Back then, he at least seemed to possess a trace of journalistic curiosity. Even the title signaled a degree of editorial caution — framing his subjects as a small, ideological fringe rather than representative of Israeli society as a whole.

At the time, Theroux made an effort to clarify that he was profiling a narrow segment of Israelis. He showed legally purchased Jewish homes (sold by Arab landowners, no less) and acknowledged the regular — and at times deadly — terror attacks faced by Israeli civilians living in the area, often requiring military protection. There was condescension, certainly. But there was also context.

Fast-forward to 2024, and the curiosity is gone — though the bemused, slightly smug expression remains. His new BBC documentary, Louis and the Settlers, drops even the soft qualifiers. No “ultra.” No nuance. Just “settlers.” And with that, Theroux makes it clear: half a million Israelis living in the West Bank are one and the same — extremists who, we’re told, want every last Palestinian removed from the land.

This time, the documentary doesn’t begin with questions. It begins with conclusions...​

Seems to me to pretty well describe how BBC and too-many others approach this issue

 

[bomberfox]

Israel does not treat Palestinians as equals, agreed; they are not Israeli citizens. I am not aware offhand of any countries that do treat non-citizens equally to how they treat citizens, though I suppose it's possible out there.

So it seems entirely plausible that, while Israel does arrest and prosecute settlers for violence against Palestinians, we would get violence that goes unprosecuted. It would be interesting is to see how that stacks up against other accusations of violence in Israel. I've seen the "only 3% convictions" thrown around, but, that's a BS number based on counting all complaints, pretending they are all about actionable violence, assuming they all have sufficient evidence to prosecute, and then they are all prosecuted.

Regardless, however, it doesn't exactly change the point being made.




Well, I wholeheartedly agree that the BBC has serious problems. The way this source opens:

Louis Theroux first visited the West Bank in 2011 to film a documentary titled Louis and the Ultra-Zionists, part of his long-running series for the BBC. Back then, he at least seemed to possess a trace of journalistic curiosity. Even the title signaled a degree of editorial caution — framing his subjects as a small, ideological fringe rather than representative of Israeli society as a whole.​

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At the time, Theroux made an effort to clarify that he was profiling a narrow segment of Israelis. He showed legally purchased Jewish homes (sold by Arab landowners, no less) and acknowledged the regular — and at times deadly — terror attacks faced by Israeli civilians living in the area, often requiring military protection. There was condescension, certainly. But there was also context.​

​

Fast-forward to 2024, and the curiosity is gone — though the bemused, slightly smug expression remains. His new BBC documentary, Louis and the Settlers, drops even the soft qualifiers. No “ultra.” No nuance. Just “settlers.” And with that, Theroux makes it clear: half a million Israelis living in the West Bank are one and the same — extremists who, we’re told, want every last Palestinian removed from the land.​

​

This time, the documentary doesn’t begin with questions. It begins with conclusions...​

Seems to me to pretty well describe how BBC and too-many others approach this issue

The documentary showed israelis terrorizing palestinians. Louis Theroux is a long time journalist who has done a great job through his career. It shows what happens to palestinians in the west bank. The UN and the world will see what Israel has become. Nobody can stop the truth from getting out. Absolutely nobody anymore.

They dont arrest Israelis who terrorize palestinians in the west bank. Moshe Sharvid is still free as a bird, the American accomplices are never held to account. There are several like Moshe who try to stop palestinians from tending to their lands, chase off their herd animals, drive down to ransack their homes, and chase them away. They then setup barbed wires around their homes to prevent them from returning. Israeli human rights groups have been dealing with constant attempts by these people to run them over with ATVs and practically anything short of murder. The IDF does nothing to stop this otherwise there would be no need for civilians to put themselves in danger to stop them.

Someday i hope that bibi and his gang will be arrested.

 

[oneworld2]

You confuse not recognizing your lies for truths with "supporting war crimes", I don't intend on ever starting to support any actual war crime, this puts me above you and your ilk who are rooting for an Islamist terror group.

What "anti-Arab bigots" have I been duping oh great antisemitic one?

The most consistent liars are the Israeli leadership/army themselves and all of the propaganda groups outside the state.

You believe everything they say and then try to defend it when the lies are exposed.

You have ****ing ZERO credibility lol

The US anti Arab bigots are the ONLY ones who thank any of your bs posts here and for that they name themselves.

It's as obvious as white balls on a black dog

 

[oneworld2]

You sound like the people who say "if there were no Muslims there would be no Islamist terrorism", I'm just calling out the wacko logic.

How embarrassing for you and in public too. I love it!!!

The logic is completely sound and it's your own thinking that is bereft of it.

Most settlers live their lives peacefully in their homes

Regardless, they are still illegal settlers and as such are guilty of illegal settlement

where many of them were born

Illegally.

on lands that are the ancestral lands of their ancestors where they emerged as a people.

It's probably more likely that the Palestinians are the true ancestral descendants of the people you are waxing about.

Fact, if there were no illegal settlers , living illegally in the West Bank there would be no illegal settlers beating the locals and their guests to death.

That's just obvious logic that is as rare as rocking horse shit in your thinking.

 

[german hick]

I don't like articles that want to make my knee jerk.

You simply don´t like any articel wich contradicts your opinion. It´s okay, humans do that. Beeing self reflective is hard work and not suited for everyone

Being called names is not being called out, Apocalypse. If you can actually build a coherent argument that does not boil down to "Everyone who disapproves of what Israel doing simply wants all Jews dead." I am happy to engage. But you don't. So I won't.

thank you - said that since years and don´t feel that lonely anymore..

 

[Mycroft]

You simply don´t like any articel wich contradicts your opinion. It´s okay, humans do that. Beeing self reflective is hard work and not suited for everyone

Wrong.

I don't like articles that want to make my knee jerk.

 

[Apocalypse]

How embarrassing for you and in public too. I love it!!!

The logic is completely sound and it's your own thinking that is bereft of it.

Cringe.

Regardless, they are still illegal settlers and as such are guilty of illegal settlement

Some of them are some of them aren't.

It's probably more likely that the Palestinians are the true ancestral descendants of the people you are waxing about.

Nonsense.

Fact, if there were no illegal settlers , living illegally in the West Bank there would be no illegal settlers beating the locals and their guests to death.

That's just obvious logic that is as rare as rocking horse shit in your thinking.

"If there were no Muslims there'd be no Islamic terrorism".
Generalizations are weak arguments.

 

[oneworld2]

Cringe.

Some of them are some of them aren't.

Nonsense.

"If there were no Muslims there'd be no Islamic terrorism".
Generalizations are weak arguments.

I accept the surrender post above and will just keep on laughing at the levels of stupidity you will go to to defend apartheid pushing genocidal ethno fascist scumbags AKA the Israeli state hierarchy.

 

[markdc]

On Friday, a Florida-born American citizen was killed by a mob of Israeli settlers in the West Bank. Not only that, after he was viciously beaten, the settlers blocked an ambulance from coming and getting him for three hours. The man died on the way to the Hospital.

American beaten to death by Israeli settlers in the West Bank

The Council on American-Islamic Relations called on President Donald Trump to hold Israel accountable for the killing of U.S. citizen Sayfollah Musallet, 20.

www.nbcnews.com

But don't worry folks, it turns out that Sayfollah Musallet was an Arab-American citizen visiting his family in the West Bank. So it was obviously his fault for instigating a confrontation, or so any subsequent investigation will tell us, and should clear these Israeli settlers of any wrongdoing. This need not be examined any further.

Remember, we must put this in the context of October 7, 2023 and how the Palestinians have rejected every peace deal with the Israelis, and why is it that Israel is held to these uniquely high standards when defending itself, and isn't it just interesting that people refer to Zionism when they really mean Jew, and did anyone mention how Israelis warn Gazans before they bomb an area, and how Arabs are allowed into Israel for medical care, and what about gay rights that Israelis respect while gay Arabs are often killed in...

If the Israelis got away with attacking a U.S. Navy vessel (USS Liberty) and killing and wounding hundreds of American sailors, you think anyone in the U.S. government is going to give a shit about this?

Mark

 

[Tigerace117]

Israel does not treat Palestinians as equals, agreed; they are not Israeli citizens. I am not aware offhand of any countries that do treat non-citizens equally to how they treat citizens, though I suppose it's possible out there.

So it seems entirely plausible that, while Israel does arrest and prosecute settlers for violence against Palestinians, we would get violence that goes unprosecuted. It would be interesting is to see how that stacks up against other accusations of violence in Israel. I've seen the "only 3% convictions" thrown around, but, that's a BS number based on counting all complaints, pretending they are all about actionable violence, assuming they all have sufficient evidence to prosecute, and then they are all prosecuted.

Regardless, however, it doesn't exactly change the point being made.




Well, I wholeheartedly agree that the BBC has serious problems. The way this source opens:

Louis Theroux first visited the West Bank in 2011 to film a documentary titled Louis and the Ultra-Zionists, part of his long-running series for the BBC. Back then, he at least seemed to possess a trace of journalistic curiosity. Even the title signaled a degree of editorial caution — framing his subjects as a small, ideological fringe rather than representative of Israeli society as a whole.​

​

At the time, Theroux made an effort to clarify that he was profiling a narrow segment of Israelis. He showed legally purchased Jewish homes (sold by Arab landowners, no less) and acknowledged the regular — and at times deadly — terror attacks faced by Israeli civilians living in the area, often requiring military protection. There was condescension, certainly. But there was also context.​

​

Fast-forward to 2024, and the curiosity is gone — though the bemused, slightly smug expression remains. His new BBC documentary, Louis and the Settlers, drops even the soft qualifiers. No “ultra.” No nuance. Just “settlers.” And with that, Theroux makes it clear: half a million Israelis living in the West Bank are one and the same — extremists who, we’re told, want every last Palestinian removed from the land.​

​

This time, the documentary doesn’t begin with questions. It begins with conclusions...​

Seems to me to pretty well describe how BBC and too-many others approach this issue

Israel’s settlements are blatantly illegal under international law. There is no way to get around that reality.

“Israeli society as a whole” seems pretty ****ing okay with said colonies, given they’ve been present for multiple decades at this point.

American colonists faced “deadly terror” out West at times as well. Does that excuse Wounded Knee and Sand Creek?