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America has a problem

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What is the "problem"?

I have no idea as to whether it is simply arrogance - "Oh, we don't have to listen to that senile old man in the White House, or to any of his ass-kissing lackeys." OR - Some people, including the President-elect, are thinking about just how much cash will be entering their off-shore bank accounts after January 20th.

Trump was supposed to provide an ethics plan by Oct. 1, according to the Presidential Transition Act. He refused to provide any such statement back in 2020 and proceeded to violate the code multiple times during his 4 years in the Oval Office.

Trump's team hits first roadblock as they start to assume power

Donald Trump's presidential transition team has already hit its first bump in the road after he won re-election Tuesday, reports the New York Times.

At issue is a failure to turn in paperwork –– now over a month overdue — that would clear the path to the turnover of sensitive documents which would allow the incoming administration to hit the ground running after the former president returns to the Oval Office.

That paperwork includes a "legally required ethics pledge stating that he will avoid conflicts of interest and other ethical concerns while in office" the absence of which has caused progress to come to a halt.

According to the report from the Times' Ken Bensinger, the failure to address the impasse has the potential to put America's security at risk.

As it stands now, the administration of President Joe Biden is legally prohibited from providing the former president's transition team with classified intelligence and national defense briefings.

The report adds that the missing paperwork also blocks Trump's people from " physical access to the 438 different federal agencies that they will soon control, and it cannot allow them to review their files."

At the bottom of the linked article is a link to the NYTimes piece. I don't think you need a subscription to read it.

For those with a subscription here's the link
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/us/politics/donald-trump-ethics-transition.html

The Presidential Transition Act governs the complex process of handing over the byzantine operations of the federal government to a new executive in the two and a half months between Election Day and inauguration Day.
[. . .]
Until the Trump transition signs that document, the Biden administration is legally barred from providing it with the security clearances needed to share classified intelligence and national defense briefings, Mr. Stier said. It also cannot give transition employees physical access to the 438 different federal agencies that they will soon control, and it cannot allow them to review their files.

This failure to sign and/or provide the ethics statements and security clearances for the Trumpies before Jan. 20 would mean a new administration walking into some potentially threatening security problems.

WHY are they refusing to comply with the requirements covering not just ethical standards but also national security? Are Trump and his billionaire oligarch buddies looking at sucking up a lot of cash?
 
OK, there is more than one problem but this one will definitely create just a 'few' more.
The new administration doesn't need the Biden administration to do anything except to get out. It will do whatever it wants with impunity. It's what some people thought they wanted, and they got it.
 
The new administration doesn't need the Biden administration to do anything except to get out. It will do whatever it wants with impunity. It's what some people thought they wanted, and they got it.

Trump obviously prefers personal loyalty to actual knowledge of complex subjects.
 

America has a problem

Not my problem, I ain't Trump.

Let Musk fix it for him.
 
It's a little surreal to think that Joe Biden needs Trump to sign a document promising to avoid "conflicts of interest and other ethical concerns while in office."
 
It's a little surreal to think that Joe Biden needs Trump to sign a document promising to avoid "conflicts of interest and other ethical concerns while in office."
Why?
 
It's a little surreal to think that Joe Biden needs Trump to sign a document promising to avoid "conflicts of interest and other ethical concerns while in office."

How so? Did old Sleepy Joe receive millions, maybe billions, from foreigners who used his golf clubs and resorts - OH, Biden doesn't own a golf club or a hotel. Must have been that other fellow who refused to place his businesses into a blind trust while he was occasionally sleeping in the White House. I don't think it was Biden who charged the Secret Service 3 times the normal rate for hotel rooms at his resorts.

Never mind the failure to sign documents covering national security interests, right? No biggie that Trump really likes authoritarians as do many of his acolytes - personal loyalty is more important than knowledge of diplomacy and national security.
 
How so? Did old Sleepy Joe receive millions, maybe billions, from foreigners who used his golf clubs and resorts - OH, Biden doesn't own a golf club or a hotel. Must have been that other fellow who refused to place his businesses into a blind trust while he was occasionally sleeping in the White House. I don't think it was Biden who charged the Secret Service 3 times the normal rate for hotel rooms at his resorts.

Never mind the failure to sign documents covering national security interests, right? No biggie that Trump really likes authoritarians as do many of his acolytes - personal loyalty is more important than knowledge of diplomacy and national security.
Got to love the total blindness, denial, and hypocrisy of Trumpers.
 
Uneducated socialists.
Not uneducated. Ignorant. Many socialists are highly educated, and hold high positions in government and education.

They're in Congress. 😞
 
Not uneducated. Ignorant. Many socialists are highly educated, and hold high positions in government and education.

They're in Congress. 😞

Apparently your understanding/definition of the word "socialist" is not one that would be accepted by those "highly educated" persons you denigrate.
 
Apparently your understanding/definition of the word "socialist" is not one that would be accepted by those "highly educated" persons you denigrate.
You just made my point. . . . they won't even admit to being socialist.

That's part of the Ignorance.
 
For those of us who wish to preserve America as best we can over the next four years, I urge you to get involved in your local communities and contribute to grass roots organizations.

A lot of people are going to be hurt soon in the name of ideals and they are going to need help.

Remember, compassion and loving your neighbor is the most objectively good thing a a person can do for another and that goodness is strongly needed right now as a counterbalance.

This will be how we fix America, but it won’t be quick. It starts with feeding the widow, helping those who are homeless, and organizing to oppose and create a better America in ways that the far right isn’t emotionally equipped to understand.
 
What is the "problem"?

I have no idea as to whether it is simply arrogance - "Oh, we don't have to listen to that senile old man in the White House, or to any of his ass-kissing lackeys." OR - Some people, including the President-elect, are thinking about just how much cash will be entering their off-shore bank accounts after January 20th.

Trump was supposed to provide an ethics plan by Oct. 1, according to the Presidential Transition Act. He refused to provide any such statement back in 2020 and proceeded to violate the code multiple times during his 4 years in the Oval Office.



At the bottom of the linked article is a link to the NYTimes piece. I don't think you need a subscription to read it.

For those with a subscription here's the link
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/us/politics/donald-trump-ethics-transition.html



This failure to sign and/or provide the ethics statements and security clearances for the Trumpies before Jan. 20 would mean a new administration walking into some potentially threatening security problems.

WHY are they refusing to comply with the requirements covering not just ethical standards but also national security? Are Trump and his billionaire oligarch buddies looking at sucking up a lot of cash?
He only got elected three days ago. The entire issue sounds more like sour grapes whining from losers.
 
He only got elected three days ago. The entire issue sounds more like sour grapes whining from losers.

According to federal regulations, the documents were supposed to be provided to those "deep-state libruls" back in September. The requirement does not relate to the election of a person but to their candidacy.

Trump Holds Up Transition Process, Skirting Ethics and Fund-Raising Rules

Donald J. Trump has so far opted out of the official planning for a government handover, a move that allows him to avoid disclosing his donors to his transition effort.

Oct, 9 2024

Less than a month before Election Day, Donald J. Trump’s campaign has not yet participated in the government’s official presidential transition process, a significant break from past practice that could threaten the seamless transfer of power should the Republican nominee win election.

Mr. Trump’s team has missed two key deadlines to sign agreements with the administration that are set by federal law and has also failed to sign an ethics plan that is required to jump-start the process of planning for a new administration. Mr. Trump’s representatives did attend a meeting at the White House last month, but they otherwise have had little communication with the Biden administration about the handoff and have skipped the opportunity to receive national security briefings.

Why would the man and his team refuse to participate in the standard transition practice?

Oh, maybe to hide his donors from public scrutiny - maybe
Experts note Mr. Trump may also have other incentives. His refusal to sign the documents allows him to circumvent fund-raising rules that put limits on private contributions to the transition effort, as well as ethics rules meant to avoid possible conflicts of interest for the incoming administration.
 
According to federal regulations, the documents were supposed to be provided to those "deep-state libruls" back in September. The requirement does not relate to the election of a person but to their candidacy.



Why would the man and his team refuse to participate in the standard transition practice?

Oh, maybe to hide his donors from public scrutiny - maybe
He still won. BIG TIME. A procedural error qualifies as SFW.
 
It's a little surreal to think that Joe Biden needs Trump to sign a document promising to avoid "conflicts of interest and other ethical concerns while in office."
It's not 'Joe Biden'. It's federal transition law. Every WH and president is required to do this stuff. But as usual, Trump bucks the system.
 
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