America’s Police Brutality Pandemic

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

There is no need to ask police for Constitutional freedoms. We supposedly already have them, and the Police are supposed to protect these rights, not crush them.

Incitement to riot, rioting, and destruction of property are not protected speech it says "peacably assemble" for a reason.

This is not protected speech:

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This is not protected speech:

Any ****ing questions?

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

This is not protected speech:

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[Joe Hill]

Yep the Federal Government sure does get around, I guess that's how the black bloc's stretch from the U.S. to Canada, to Latin America to Europe. It's all part of their elaborate plot to destroy the publics property just so they have an excuse to stop the destruction of the public's property. Those evil geniuses! :roll:

Sorry buddy but destruction of property and incitement to riot are not protected by the 1st amendment. It says "peacably assemble" for a reason.

The Corporate Empire certainly does "get around." That is the nature of an "Empire." What's funny is the thought of some sinister conspiracy of black-clad anarchists dedicated to smashing windows to get their heads cracked.:roll:

We are reluctant to admit that we owe our liberties
to men of a type that today we hate and fear -- unruly
men, disturbers of the peace, men who resent and
denounce what Whitman called 'the insolence of elected
persons' -- in a word, free men.: Gerald W. Johnson

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

The Corporate Empire certainly does "get around." That is the nature of an "Empire."

Yep those evil free trader SOB's what with their giving people jobs so they can feed their families and improving living standards all over the world and what's more they do it for a profit! How do they live with themselves?

What's funny is the thought of some sinister conspiracy of black-clad anarchists dedicated to smashing windows to get their heads cracked.:roll:

Actually what's funny is that black blocer POS getting his head cracked I'd like to kick him a couple of times myself for good measure. I'm sure he was a police plant though, ofcourse they want to plant people to destroy property so they have an excuse to stop them from destroying property, ofcourse that must be it! It makes perfect ****ing sense, ofcourse these vandals and rioters couldn't be spoiled rich college kids with nothing better to do than to destroy peoples businesses, STARBUCKS IS THE ENEMY WADE INTO THEM SPILL THEIR BLOOD! ****ing losers! Freedom of speech and freedom of expression does not overide my freedom to be secure in my person or property, and thank god for the 2nd amendment because I have the right to defend my property by any means necessary, these ****ers come destroying my property and I'll show them the excercise of Constitutional rights by splattering their ****ing brains all over the wall with my pistol grip pump action mashburg! 2nd amendment, ya that's the ticket!

 

[Joe Hill]

Incitement to riot, rioting, and destruction of property are not protected speech it says "peacably assemble" for a reason.


Any ****ing questions?

Yeah, Emperor..What country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers
are not warned from time to time that this people
preserve the spirit of resistance? Thomas Jefferson

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Yeah, Emperor..What country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers
are not warned from time to time that this people
preserve the spirit of resistance? Thomas Jefferson

"In monarchy the crime of treason may admit of being pardoned or lightly punished, but the man who dares rebel against the laws of republic ought to suffer death." -- Samuel Adams

 

[Kushinator]

Was it not John Adams who provided counsel for the British soldiers involved in the Boston Massacre???

Imagine that, the future President of the United States provides nearly free legal counsel for "the enemy".

If anyone from any aspect of law were to do this, you yourself would label them as a traitor. LOL, how they are defending the people who would destroy democracy.

The thing is, one can never have democracy that is governed by hypocrisies.

Such as going against ones, in this case our nations, convictions in the name of security...

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

All attempts at legitimacy was los on this one grand lie.


"Bush’s “war on terror” quickly became Bush’s war on Iraqi civilians. So far over one million Iraqi civilians have lost their lives because of Bush’s invasion"

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Was it not John Adams who provided counsel for the British soldiers involved in the Boston Massacre???

Imagine that, the future President of the United States provides nearly free legal counsel for "the enemy".

If anyone from any aspect of law were to do this, you yourself would label them as a traitor. LOL, how they are defending the people who would destroy democracy.

The thing is, one can never have democracy that is governed by hypocrisies.

Such as going against ones, in this case our nations, convictions in the name of security...

A) I quoted Samuel Adams.

B) John Adams was an ardent Patriot and strong supporter of the revolutionary cause.

 

[Sergeant Stinger1]

Guys running around in ski masks could be anyone. The Police are notorious for planting undercover provocateurs to give them an excuse for attack. Get a clue yourself_ I mean grannies, reporters, and kids.

In These Times - April 3, 2000 - Chemical Cops

"The people are the ultimate guardians of their own
liberties. In every government on earth is some trace
of human weakness, some germ of corruption and
degeneracy. Every government degenerates when trusted
to the rulers of the people alone." - Thomas Jefferson

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YUP!!! I see it being done here every day. They plant men around here just so they can practice beating up people and shooting people for target practice!:roll: :doh :roll:

 

[Lerxst]

Guys running around in ski masks could be anyone. The Police are notorious for planting undercover provocateurs to give them an excuse for attack. Get a clue yourself_ I mean grannies, reporters, and kids.

In These Times - April 3, 2000 - Chemical Cops

"The people are the ultimate guardians of their own
liberties. In every government on earth is some trace
of human weakness, some germ of corruption and
degeneracy. Every government degenerates when trusted
to the rulers of the people alone." - Thomas Jefferson

:lol: :lol: :lol:

This is a ****ing joke. Don't come in here spouting this conjecture and expect to be taken for anything less than a paranoid kook. Your article is a fine example of taking little bits of information and extrapolating sinister plots and nefarious dealings by government and chemical companies. Except that the core of the argument rests on a very few cases of people dying or haveing "long lasting" symptoms.

Here is a clue. If you don't want pepper sprayed don't dangle your dick in a meat grinder and continue to protest when you have been ordered to disperse. Otherwise prepare for the gas.

Pussbags.

 

[SFLRN]

"In monarchy the crime of treason may admit of being pardoned or lightly punished, but the man who dares rebel against the laws of republic ought to suffer death." -- Samuel Adams

The right for people to overthrow their government does not vanish as soon as a republic takes hold. It simply means there is usually a greater opportunity to use legal methods to enact change. However, the logic of this statement would imply that individuals who initiated civil disobedience during the Civil Rights Movement should have been killed. The people have the right to overthrow their government if the government breaks the social contract regardless of the form of government employed. The people have the right to overthrow government regardless of the system under Lockean principles, which helped inspire our founding fathers. Similarly, people have the right to disobey laws as a form of revolt if those laws are unjust.
I would also add that it is foolhardy to dismiss the possibility that government does sometimes plant officials into groups to make the groups themselves more polarizing . This is ideally done to help limit the group's political reach. The prevalence of such actions is debatable, their existence is not.

 

[Kushinator]

A) I quoted Samuel Adams.

B) John Adams was an ardent Patriot and strong supporter of the revolutionary cause.

I never said you didnt. Which doesnt take away from the fact that the legal council of the British soldiers responsible for the "Boston Massacre" was John Adams.

I dont understand what John Adams being a supporter of the American Revolution has to do with it though.

More hypocrisy from TOT...

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

John Adams' defense of the British soldiers during the 'Boston Massacre' was in order to show the importance, not only of the justness of the cause for independence, but of the importance of acting with respect to the cause and doing it the right way. He felt that there would be no respect for an illegal, unruly mob, and he did not what our country to founded on such barbaric ideals. Adams was one of the greatest Americans and patriots who ever lived, one whose integrity was impeccable, and one who would be appalled at the hypocrisy and lack of integrity of many of our leaders of today. He wanted what was good for the country. We could use someone like him, today.

 

[Lerxst]

John Adams' defense of the British soldiers during the 'Boston Massacre' was in order to show the importance, not only of the justness of the cause for independence, but of the importance of acting with respect to the cause and doing it the right way. He felt that there would be no respect for an illegal, unruly mob, and he did not what our country to founded on such barbaric ideals. Adams was one of the greatest Americans and patriots who ever lived, one whose integrity was impeccable, and one who would be appalled at the hypocrisy and lack of integrity of many of our leaders of today. He wanted what was good for the country. We could use someone like him, today.

Well put CC, well put.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

The right for people to overthrow their government does not vanish as soon as a republic takes hold. It simply means there is usually a greater opportunity to use legal methods to enact change. However, the logic of this statement would imply that individuals who initiated civil disobedience during the Civil Rights Movement should have been killed. The people have the right to overthrow their government if the government breaks the social contract regardless of the form of government employed. The people have the right to overthrow government regardless of the system under Lockean principles, which helped inspire our founding fathers. Similarly, people have the right to disobey laws as a form of revolt if those laws are unjust.

First of all that quote was in direct relation to the Shay's rebellion. Furthermore; the people have the right to peaceably assemble, they do not have the right to destroy property or incite to riot, the people only have the right to overthrow the state under the most dire of circumstances, such as, when they violate the social contract and become destructive towards the natural rights of life, liberty, and property, and infact a government which will not or is incapable in the capacity to protect ones natural right to be secure in their property is one which requires being overthrown.

I would also add that it is foolhardy to dismiss the possibility that government does sometimes plant officials into groups to make the groups themselves more polarizing . This is ideally done to help limit the group's political reach. The prevalence of such actions is debatable, their existence is not.

Ofcourse that makes perfect sense, the state is placing these plants all over the world from Latin America to Europe in order to create millions of dollars worth of property damage just to make anarchists and communists seem more polarizing, ofcourse you have some evidence to back this outlandish assertion?

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

I never said you didnt. Which doesnt take away from the fact that the legal council of the British soldiers responsible for the "Boston Massacre" was John Adams.

I dont understand what John Adams being a supporter of the American Revolution has to do with it though.

More hypocrisy from TOT...

I suggest you look up the definition of hypocrisy.

 

[Lerxst]

I suggest you look up the definition of hypocrisy.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I was wondering when you were going to fire that out there.

 

[rhinefire]

"The will of the people" was never intended to be a shield for anarchy. During the social unrest of the 60's and 70's the SDS, Black Panthers and other gangs of destruction spent more time recruiting and persuading than practicing legal dissent. They knew the bigger and more violent the more the media would cover. There were conspiracies by the gross on how to "disrupt" for the sake of getting media coverage. Those same misfits are now grey-haired business people with modest-to-comfortable bank accounts and grand kids. Ain't life funny?

 

[Kushinator]

I suggest you look up the definition of hypocrisy.

The point i was trying to make is, you use any means necessary to intstall the belief that anyone not in support of current US foreign policy, George Bush, etc..., is behaving in an anti- American way.

If a liberal politician were to defend a captured terrorist in court, would you not call it outrage and for that persons resignation?

Yet (this is only my belief) if a conservative politician were to do the same, i would bet money you would support them.

John Adams took a stance on a non nonintervention based foreign policy which kept this country out of foreign entanglements while he was in office.

Even though the spread of democracy was the cause for war in Europe at that time...

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

The point i was trying to make is, you use any means necessary to intstall the belief that anyone not in support of current US foreign policy, George Bush, etc..., is behaving in an anti- American way.

No I haven't.

If a liberal politician were to defend a captured terrorist in court, would you not call it outrage and for that persons resignation?

I wouldn't begrude an attorney for supplying council I would only call for their resignation if they justified their actions.

 

[ARealConservative]

"Police brutality" is a phrase that is overused and misunderstood. People cry "police brutality" whenever they don't like an action that an officer has taken, regardless of how necessary that action was. But of course civilians wouldn't understand; they don't have the training and they're not the ones that put their lives on the line every single day. People just like to bitch and moan.

:spin:

You are married to a police office, no?

 

[SFLRN]

First of all that quote was in direct relation to the Shay's rebellion.
Furthermore; the people have the right to peaceably assemble, they do not have the right to destroy property or incite to riot, the people only have the right to overthrow the state under the most dire of circumstances, such as, when they violate the social contract and become destructive towards the natural rights of life, liberty, and property, and infact a government which will not or is incapable in the capacity to protect ones natural right to be secure in their property is one which requires being overthrown.

I did not mean to suggest that rioting is a normally permissible activity.

Ofcourse that makes perfect sense, the state is placing these plants all over the world from Latin America to Europe in order to create millions of dollars worth of property damage just to make anarchists and communists seem more polarizing, ofcourse you have some evidence to back this outlandish assertion?

I never uttered such hyperbole. If you had read the statement more closely you would have noticed that I did not attempt to assert how often this happens. I specifically said The prevalence of such actions is debatable. Not once did I say that these things are happening all of the time. "Much more familiar in the minds of most
contemporary Americans is the McCarthy Era of the
post-World War II 1950s. Rather than the use of
raids or goon squads, the FBI and other federal
agents utilized blacklisting and paid informants
to intimidate and criminalize innocent
professionals in government, educational
institutions, and the entertainment industry. "
[THS] US Government Targeting Of Amercian Dissidents
If you would prefer another site to back this assertion then I will oblige.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourview/2007/08/police_admit_going_undercover.html

 

[MSgt]

Everyone loves to exaggerate. Especially college kids who need a cause. Whatever happened to the whale? They die out or don't need saving anymore?

 

[Kushinator]

You would think not aiding international terrorists would be a pre-requisite for teaching ethics.

Care to explain this quote???

And they wonder where i came up with my hypocrite statement...