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Air India flight bound for London crashes in northwestern India

Allan

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It looks like this plane crashed into apartment buildings.

An Air India passenger plane with 244 people onboard crashed Thursday in India's northwestern city of Ahmedabad, the airline and local media reported. Visuals on local television channels showed smoke billowing from the crash site near the airport in Ahmedabad.

Faiz Ahmed Kidwai, the director general of the directorate of civil aviation, told The Associated Press that Air India flight AI 171, a Boeing 787, crashed into a residential area called Meghani Nagar five minutes after taking off at 1:38 p.m. local time
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reinaert said:
The BBC has someone on who says the flaps were already in their cruising position, which might explain the plane sinking like that, because it couldn't achieve lift. As I know almost nothing about the subject, grano salis.
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Yeah from the video you can see the flaps don't appear to be extended. There are checklists and warning systems to prevent that so this would be a huge pilot error if true.
 
Rule #1 when you lose power in an aircraft is to push. Push on the yoke to get the nose down to establish best glide speed, regardless of altitude.

Pilot did a great job in not stalling the plane which would have led to a wing drop into a spin. He ‘pushed over’ as long as he could and then pulled into the flare.

As Bob Hoover used to say. Fly the plane all the way into the crash. That’s what this pilot did.
 
VySky said:
Rule #1 when you lose power in an aircraft is to push. Push on the yoke to get the nose down to establish best glide speed, regardless of altitude.

Pilot did a great job in not stalling the plane which would have led to a wing drop into a spin. He ‘pushed over’ as long as he could and then pulled into the flare.

As Bob Hoover used to say. Fly the plane all the way into the crash. That’s what this pilot did.
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Any thoughts on the position of the flaps?
 
Allan said:
CNN keeps showing a fire truck running over a section of wing on the ground. The flap is retracted. That could have happened from the crash impact but it's something investigators will zero in on.
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Yep. Need to find those black boxes.
 
Passengers:
168 Indian
53 British
1 Canadian
7 Portuguese
 
The fact they didn’t get to raising the gear is telling. They could have noticed the problem prior to rotation. Theres a point to where they are committed to takeoff. The mayday call so quick is concerning
 
Hers some video of the severed wing on the ground. The flap looks retracted to me.

 
So horrible.

Within an hour or so of the accident, people had posted the full passenger list, and videos of people burnt beyond recognition being removed from the scene in full view for all to see. There was also a video of a human head on the road with a large group gathered around taking videos of it.

They've lost their humanity.

Heartbreaking for the family and friends waiting for news of their loved ones.
 
Serenity said:
So horrible.

Within an hour or so of the accident, people had posted the full passenger list, and videos of people burnt beyond recognition being removed from the scene in full view for all to see. There was also a video of a human head on the road with a large group gathered around taking videos of it.

They've lost their humanity.

Heartbreaking for the family and friends waiting for news of their loved ones.
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Agreed. Death porn is vile beyond description.
 
KevinKohler said:
I feel for all of those families.

Why does it seem like this is happening a lot, all of a sudden?
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When I was traveling a lot for work a couple years ago, I overheard flight crew on many of these older planes saying the planes were not well maintained and needed to be retired. They saw a lot of issues with planes being grounded or making emergency landings. I was on one that had to turn around and fly back at a lower altitude. I feel like everyone's cutting corners to maximize profit to an absurd, dangerous degree.
 
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