AIDE DETAILS TRUMP’S RAGE ON JAN. 6He Knew Crowd Was Armed, but Tried to Loosen Security, Testimony Recounts

[Stealers Wheel]

Which is not very hard because it took minutes to disprove most of her claims.

I find it interesting you’re opposed to the truth if it goes against you

When? Where? You have information we need. Who discredited her? Were they under oath? Give us your sources.

 

[dcsports]

Yep.
We don't know what the SS personal said. The subject may not have come up.

Tony O, needs to be brought in and see what he says. If he says he never talked to or told Hutchison about the ride, then DOJ needs to look into who is not telling the truth.

Or an adult on the committee can step forward and say "Even if 100% of the hearsay she provided is true, are ketchup splatters and the president wrestling for control of his SUV something congress should be wasting time on?"

 

[reinaert]

Or an adult on the committee can step forward and say "Even if 100% of the hearsay she provided is true, are ketchup splatters and the president wrestling for control of his SUV something congress should be wasting time on?"

Yes, if it's part of the story about how Trump wanted to do a Mussolini in the rostrum.

 

[element94]

When? Where? You have information we need. Who discredited her? Were they under oath? Give us your sources.

You'll never get that from a fantasist.

 

[Rawley]

This congressional hearing was never intended to be a courtroom trial.

True. It was billed as a partisan farce from Day 1. And has more than lived up to that.

 

[element94]

True. It was billed as a partisan farce from Day 1. And has more than lived up to that.

If only it wasn't for the evidence and testimony under oath.

 

[Rawley]

If only it wasn't for the evidence and testimony under oath.

You funny. Just curious, would you change your tune if Bennie and Lizzy refuse to release the testimony of Engel and Ornato? Rather odd that they would do that. Unless of course, they were running a partisan farce uninterested in the truth.

 

[Lycanthrope]

And you see them hopping around you. That's sad. Perhaps you and @jpn can get a group rate.

You're doing a fine job.

 

[Rawley]

You're doing a fine job.

I charge $610/hour for group therapy. But I do have experience with patients seeing Trumpies under every rock and around every corner.

 

[MTAtech]

Or an adult on the committee can step forward and say "Even if 100% of the hearsay she provided is true, are ketchup splatters and the president wrestling for control of his SUV something congress should be wasting time on?"

So, you think it isn’t relevant that when the Attorney General publicly stated there was no election fraud, Trump threw a tantrum and threw expensive government property at a wall — and it wasn’t the first time he threw these fits?
Moreover, when told he couldn’t go to the Capitol with the rioters, grabbing a vehicle steering wheel and the neck of a federal agent, is normal behavior in your book?
If nothing else, these show a frame of mind, desperate to take any action to overturn an election he lost.

 

[Lycanthrope]

I charge $610/hour for group therapy. But I do have experience with patients seeing Trumpies under every rock and around every corner.

You're undercharging, sport.

Hell, with every post you do everyone here an amazing service.

Please, continue.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

True. It was billed as a partisan farce from Day 1. And has more than lived up to that.

True. The republicans who are testifying are crucifying Trump. So unfair.

They should give Trump equal time. He should be allowed to go under oath and rebut every one of these spurious claims. So unfair!

 

[Roadvirus]

So, you think it isn’t relevant that when the Attorney General publicly stated there was no election fraud, Trump threw a tantrum and threw expensive government property at a wall — and it wasn’t the first time he threw these fits?
Moreover, when told he couldn’t go to the Capitol with the rioters, grabbing a vehicle steering wheel and the neck of a federal agent, is normal behavior in your book?
If nothing else, these show a frame of mind, desperate to take any action to overturn an election he lost.

Assuming the incidents are true.

 

[Rawley]

True. The republicans who are testifying are crucifying Trump. So unfair.

They should give Trump equal time. He should be allowed to go under oath and rebut every one of these spurious claims. So unfair!

1,000 witnesses. All of them Republican huh? Do you have the list of the 1,000 that have testified?

Engel and Ornato are Republicans?

 

[year2late]

Saying hearsay is hearsay is not perjury.

And for those who took the time to listen to her......and not what websites tell you ......she was clear this was second hand. Abundantly clear.

 

[upsideguy]

Or an adult on the committee can step forward and say "Even if 100% of the hearsay she provided is true, are ketchup splatters and the president wrestling for control of his SUV something congress should be wasting time on?"

Substantially all of her testimony was first hand account. The story about Trump in the SUV is hearsay, and she made it a point to state such. She gave testimony to the mood and activities of the White House leading up to 1/6 and in the direct aftermath. Trump's mood and his emotional volatility is quite germane to the overall case against him. He was clearly out of control. So much so there was talk of invoking the 25th amendment to neuter him for the final two weeks of his presidency.

If Trump attempted an overthrow of the American government, and it appears he did, there is nothing more important for just about anyone to spend their time on. We go to war over matters that are less threatening to our existence than this (9/11, for example).

1,000 witnesses. All of them Republican huh? Do you have the list of the 1,000 that have testified?

Engel and Ornato are Republicans?

Substantially all of the witnesses that you have seen on TV were not only "Republicans", they voted for Trump and/or worked for Trump. Ornato, although a SS employee, would also be a Trump insider as he served the White House as Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations.

Anthony M. Ornato | FLETA

Anthony Ornato currently serves as the Assistant Director of the United States Secret Service Office of Training. In this position, he administers the enterprise-wide oversight of structured policies and programs associated with Secret Service training and employee development. He recently was...

www.fleta.gov

Let's put this in perspective, though. People are all twisted off on a particular aspect of the story conveyed to Hutchinson by Ornato, with hearing the substance of it, which was to convey Trump's state of mind as being out of control and irrational, particularly when he was told that the SS would not take him to the Capitol. Ornato confirms this:

Tony Ornato did not brief Cassidy Hutchinson that Trump tried to lunge at Secret Service agent: sources

Sources close to the U.S. Secret Service and former Trump Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations Tony Ornato tell Fox News that the Trump did not lunge at an agent on January 6.

www.foxnews.com

Per this article: "....A source close to the USSS says Hutchinson was truthful when she said that Trump was furious inside the SUV. Trump did want to go to the Capitol on January 6 and was yelling and shouting. However, the steering wheel part is false, per this source..."

 

[Rawley]

And for those who took the time to listen to her......and not what websites tell you ......she was clear this was second hand. Abundantly clear.

So Ornato was in the car with the President?

 

[Stealers Wheel]

1,000 witnesses. All of them Republican huh? Do you have the list of the 1,000 that have testified?

Engel and Ornato are Republicans?

I haven't heard 1,000 witnesses. The ones I have heard are people like Wm Barr. He claims he told Trump that election fraud was completely bullshit. I think he claims to be a republican. Engel and Ornato? The SS? Have they testified publicly? Haven't heard that.

 

[reflechissez]

She can't be arrested for saying the hearsay she was reporting was hearsay, RV.

They don't know how anything works.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

So Ornato was in the car with the President?

Wasn't he the driver of the SUV?

 

[reflechissez]

Or an adult on the committee can step forward and say "Even if 100% of the hearsay she provided is true, are ketchup splatters and the president wrestling for control of his SUV something congress should be wasting time on?"

Why? Is it taking up too much of your time?

 

[Stealers Wheel]

It's not a "hearing". It's Stalinist propaganda. A hearing would include committee members with conflicting political interests and this committee expressly prohibited that function.

Nope. The republicans refused to have a bipartisan committee. Why do you think Trump is so pissed at McCarthy right now? The democrats were not going to allow them to put potential witnesses or targets on the committee. Now that we have the list of people who requested pardons we know why.

 

[dcsports]

So, you think it isn’t relevant that when the Attorney General publicly stated there was no election fraud, Trump threw a tantrum and threw expensive government property at a wall — and it wasn’t the first time he threw these fits?
Moreover, when told he couldn’t go to the Capitol with the rioters, grabbing a vehicle steering wheel and the neck of a federal agent, is normal behavior in your book?
If nothing else, these show a frame of mind, desperate to take any action to overturn an election he lost.

Did she say Trump grabbed the agent's neck too?

But no. I don't see any relevant legislative purpose. If the DOJ wants to pursue destruction of property or assault charges, they should go for it! They'll need to get a first hand account though, rather than 'I heard it from a coworker'.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Saying hearsay is hearsay is not perjury.

Testifying under oath about something that isn't true is perjury.

Schiff coached Hutchinson to lie as part of the Stalinist show trial - an ongoing pattern for the little Nazi scum.

Tony Ornato already made it clear that Hutchinson lied.

 

[upsideguy]

Which is not very hard because it took minutes to disprove most of her claims.

I find it interesting you’re opposed to the truth if it goes against you

Well, you should be working Fox News then, as they have yet to disprove her claims. Perhaps you would like to share with us what you found out. If it is good, maybe a Fox News talent scout will call you shortly thereafter.