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After pause, this Texas city is set to reconsider banning travel to access an abortion

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Amarillo set to join the Texas Counties prohibiting their roads being used to travel for out of state abortions.
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/13/abortion-travel-ban-amarillo-texas/AMARILLO — Near the tip of the top of the state, Amarillo is far from the Capitol in Austin, Dallas’ busy downtown, and Houston’s congested highways. The “floating” city in the Panhandle is often forgotten by much of the state, residents say. Most of the country has never heard of their home.
That changed when the Amarillo City Council took up a proposed abortion travel ban in October. The debate put an unfamiliar spotlight on the city — activists flocked to Amarillo, national organizations joined local efforts, and council members' phones rang off the hook.

Adding to the public interest was how the council responded to it. Led by Mayor Cole Stanley, the five-member council said they would not rush to approve it. Unlike other city and county officials, Amarillo’s leaders punted the issue in a rare step that would allow more thoughtful consideration and input from residents.

The conversation is set to continue. The council announced Tuesday it will consider the ordinance during a Dec. 19 meeting. The council will use that meeting to navigate “the right way forward,” Stanley said. The news comes as Texas makes national headlines once again for its restrictive abortion laws — a Dallas woman left the state this week to terminate a non-viable pregnancy after a losing legal battle to obtain one here.

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Council members have not signaled how they could change the ordinance since it was originally presented.

With a vote on the travel ban in Amarillo looming, residents including abortion activists, health care workers and legal professionals, are worried. Their top concern: This ordinance would create an atmosphere of fear and make it more difficult to access standard health care in this largely rural area of the state where people have to travel long ways for care as is.





“So many rural counties are maternal health care deserts, and things like this ordinance just worsens it,” said Fariha Samad, an Amarillo resident and member of the Amarillo Reproductive Freedom Alliance. “It creates an atmosphere of fear.”

Even though Texas has a near-total ban, the proposed travel ordinances are the next fight for access. The so-called travel ban would outlaw the use of Amarillo’s roads to transport a pregnant person for an abortion in another state, opening the door for lawsuits from private Texans against anyone who “aids and abet” the procedure. The lawsuits are the only enforcement mechanism for the ordinance.
 
It's Texas. If a woman leaves to get an abortion, why would they ever go back? They'll be in burkhas by this time next year.
 
Amarillo set to join the Texas Counties prohibiting their roads being used to travel for out of state abortions.
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/13/abortion-travel-ban-amarillo-texas/AMARILLO — Near the tip of the top of the state, Amarillo is far from the Capitol in Austin, Dallas’ busy downtown, and Houston’s congested highways. The “floating” city in the Panhandle is often forgotten by much of the state, residents say. Most of the country has never heard of their home.

This is not constitutional and will fail. It will cost Texas a 10-figure legal settlement.
 
Amarillo set to join the Texas Counties prohibiting their roads being used to travel for out of state abortions.
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/13/abortion-travel-ban-amarillo-texas/AMARILLO — Near the tip of the top of the state, Amarillo is far from the Capitol in Austin, Dallas’ busy downtown, and Houston’s congested highways. The “floating” city in the Panhandle is often forgotten by much of the state, residents say. Most of the country has never heard of their home.

Practically, how are they going to enforce this?
 
Amarillo set to join the Texas Counties prohibiting their roads being used to travel for out of state abortions.

Driving is a privilege, not a right, remember? Hence the duly elected democratic government can place whatever restrictions it wants.

Practically, how are they going to enforce this?

The same way they enforce literally thousands of other laws.
 
Driving is a privilege, not a right, remember? Hence the duly elected democratic government can place whatever restrictions it wants.

They still need probable cause to stop a vehicle. What would that be? They have no right to ask a woman's reproductive status and she doesnt have to respond without that probable cause. What would that be?

The same way they enforce literally thousands of other laws.

So, you know they cant and are floundering? Please explain, if you can.
 
They still need probable cause to stop a vehicle. What would that be? They have no right to ask a woman's reproductive status and she doesnt have to respond without that probable cause. What would that be?

They can ask whatever they want. They can ask her where she's going, if she's pregnant, whatever the cop feels like asking. The cop can pull her out of the car and see if she if visibly pregnant and then make a determination.

You leftists want more government, well here you go, more government.
 
Some whackos in Texas want to tell American women that they can't go somewhere else to do what they've told them they can't do in Texas.

Next up on their wish list;

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No thank you.
 
They can ask whatever they want.

They need probable cause to stop the car. What would it be?

And then they need probable cause to ask where they're going...adults are free to travel the country. If they say to 'get a bite to eat,' that's not a lie if they eat something in the other state. He has no right, no probable cause to ask her reproductive status.

What would that probable cause be?

That's twice I've asked now.

They can ask her where she's going, if she's pregnant, whatever the cop feels like asking.

Nope, she doesnt have to answer if he has no probable cause. "Officer I do not consent to answer." Then the onus is on him to either arrest her...for which he needs probable cause, or let her go.

The cop can pull her out of the car and see if she if visibly pregnant and then make a determination.

And if she's just a fat woman? He cant make "any" determination. LOL The lawsuits will be awesome. Again, since she could just be big, he has no probable cause. Her medical status and reproductive status are still federally private. HIPAA still stands and supersedes state laws.
 
Driving is a privilege, not a right, remember? Hence the duly elected democratic government can place whatever restrictions it wants.



The same way they enforce literally thousands of other laws.
And here's the standard libertarian response of demanding a police state.
 
They need probable cause to stop the car. What would it be?

And then they need probable cause to ask where they're going...adults are free to travel the country.

According the political left, using government roads is a privilege, not a right.

If they say to 'get a bite to eat,' that's not a lie if they eat something in the other state. He has no right, no probable cause to ask her reproductive status.

What would that probable cause be?

I agree that this would likely take place after she is pulled over for a traffic violation.

Nope, she doesnt have to answer if he has no probable cause. "Officer I do not consent to answer." Then the onus is on him to either arrest her...for which he needs probable cause, or let her go.

No, you claimed the cop can't ask. He can. Of course she can refuse to answer, but many people will answer, that's why cops routinely ask people if it's ok for them to search their car.

And if she's just a fat woman? He cant make "any" determination. LOL The lawsuits will be awesome. Again, since she could just be big, he has no probable cause. Her medical status and reproductive status are still federally private. HIPAA still stands and supersedes state laws.

Why are you advocating for women to break the law in the first place? It says right in the social contract that you agree to obey the glorious government. If you don't like the law, then you should "rock the vote".
 
It's Texas. If a woman leaves to get an abortion, why would they ever go back? They'll be in burkhas by this time next year.
For a 100 years America has been telling much of the world how backwards they are with their civil liberties and democracies. Imagine how all those 'shithole' countries are laughing now as they watch America introduce crazy legislation that makes them look like pictures of humanitarian decency by comparison.
 
According the political left, using government roads is a privilege, not a right.

WHat does that have to do with the right to due process? Which requires probable cause to stop/question/search someone. Has nothing to do with roads.

I know you dont have the answers now, so this should be interesting to see how long you are going to try and flounder along, how creative you get.

I agree that this would likely take place after she is pulled over for a traffic violation.

So then she's telling the truth. They're get something to eat in another state, whether they get pulled over or not.

Did you have a point here? Or are you just confirming the validity of my reply? :D

No, you claimed the cop can't ask. He can. Of course she can refuse to answer,


Wait...when did he have probable cause to pull the car over? Ya skipped that one.

Is he allowed to pull the car over without probable cause? Please answer, with more than your opinion. And if so, what would his probable cause be?

but many people will answer, that's why cops routinely ask people if it's ok for them to search their car.

Why are you advocating the police undermine the law to take advantage of citizens?
 
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