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ABORTION: What is YOUR view, what would YOU do.

I'm curious what others have to say ...

well the pro-life side that are actually honest and admit these facts dont post much because their honesty is drowned out but the dishonest posters and they also cant stomach the poses on the pro-choice side that just say things to troll.

so you probably wont get much from them
 
1.) nope not a fact. just your opinion that cant be supported by one fact
What do you call people that would force the woman to risk her life against her will? and what happens if she dies, you know a fully grown viable woman?
2.) thats a chice that COULD be made but isnt not to be forced
3.) again thats just an opinion, many feel that would be totally irresponsible, why is your opinion better?

weird, remind us which one me or you respects and understands opinions, you keep proving its not you with every post

speaking of maning up, where your facts that prove i dont value human life? we've been waiting
1 my opinion, so what?
2 Its the choice of someone with some personal responsibility.
3 My opinion has the child living.
 
1 my opinion, so what?
2 Its the choice of someone with some personal responsibility.
3 My opinion has the child living.

1.) just point out the fact thats all it is
2.) again nothing more than your opinion, many other people have the opinion it would be irresponsible, yours is no better

i see you still have ZERO facts that show i dont respect human live
3.) MAYBE it does but thats not REALITY

maybe it dies, maybe its deformed, maybe it ends up with the mother dying, maybe it has the child getting abused, maybe the child gets raped and killed, maybe the child commits suicide from being abandoned etc etc

or maybe the child becomes president????

you have no clue

so again i ask, what makes your opinion factually better?
 
I'm curious what others have to say ...

I am always for the rights of the born. Why? Because there's no effects of abortion on the growth population for one. All of the abortions in history hasn't compromised the existence of humanity. But that's not even my reasoning.

Women should always maintain control over their own bodies, health and reproductive roles. To date...there's no evidence that even abortion on demand...anywhere on the planet is jeopardizing human kind.

Women who co-conceive know exactly what life's burdens impose on them. A man can't go through the burdens of giving birth. We have a huge population of women when they get pregnant...pooof, the guy is gone or just doesn't care or contribute. Why? Because they believe the woman was being "irresponsible" for getting...the dumb ****s.

The majority of women who "jointly conceives"...carries those conceptions to full term! That's a fact.

Abortion rates are reducing every year because access to better forms of birth control and education about the use of birth control...which clearly shows women being responsible.

The impetus behind lower abortion rates...women are very conscious and concerned about their personal health and well being.

61% of abortions are in the 9 week or less period of pregnancy, which makes the development...about the size of a kidney bean.

Another 25% of abortions are 12 weeks and under.

Only 1.5% of abortions are after 20 weeks, which the majority of latter stage abortions are related to defective/dead fetuses or the health of the woman.

If pro-lifers could step outside the circle of condemnation and put their energies into thinking about ways to prevent unwanted pregnancies...whatever the cause...we might find that one day...the issue will be resolved.

We don't have an abortion problem. We have a prejudice problem. We have a religious problem. We have a misogyny problem.
 
well the pro-life side that are actually honest and admit these facts dont post much because their honesty is drowned out but the dishonest posters and they also cant stomach the poses on the pro-choice side that just say things to troll.

so you probably wont get much from them
Yea, the truth hurts. Dont it. Most people "on line" want to be liked and have their ego stroked. I need neither from a forum.
 
1.)Yea, the truth hurts. Dont it.
2.)Most people "on line" want to be liked and have their ego stroked. I need neither from a forum.

1.)what truth are you referring to that the majority of honest pro-lifers dont post much because of the trolls on thier own side and the trolls on the other side lol
2.) yep you are a rookie here

got and facts to support your false claim yet?
 
I am always for the rights of the born. Why? Because there's no effects of abortion on the growth population for one. All of the abortions in history hasn't compromised the existence of humanity. But that's not even my reasoning.

Women should always maintain control over their own bodies, health and reproductive roles. To date...there's no evidence that even abortion on demand...anywhere on the planet is jeopardizing human kind.

Women who co-conceive know exactly what life's burdens impose on them. A man can't go through the burdens of giving birth. We have a huge population of women when they get pregnant...pooof, the guy is gone or just doesn't care or contribute. Why? Because they believe the woman was being "irresponsible" for getting...the dumb ****s.

The majority of women who "jointly conceives"...carries those conceptions to full term! That's a fact.

Abortion rates are reducing every year because access to better forms of birth control and education about the use of birth control...which clearly shows women being responsible.

The impetus behind lower abortion rates...women are very conscious and concerned about their personal health and well being.

61% of abortions are in the 9 week or less period of pregnancy, which makes the development...about the size of a kidney bean.

Another 25% of abortions are 12 weeks and under.

Only 1.5% of abortions are after 20 weeks, which the majority of latter stage abortions are related to defective/dead fetuses or the health of the woman.

If pro-lifers could step outside the circle of condemnation and put their energies into thinking about ways to prevent unwanted pregnancies...whatever the cause...we might find that one day...the issue will be resolved.

We don't have an abortion problem. We have a prejudice problem. We have a religious problem. We have a misogyny problem.

I agree. Well said.
The numbers of abortions are being reduced.
In fact in 2009 the latest stat we have the CDC reported under 800, 000 which was 5 percent less than the year before. In 2008 the numbers werev2 or 3 percent less than the year before that.

And as more and more women of child bearing years choose long term contraceptives ( which are pretty much goof proof ) as their method of birth control I think the numbers of abortions will be drastically reduced.

The less unwanted pregnancies women have the fewer abortions they will have.
 
I agree. Well said.
The numbers of abortions are being reduced.
In fact in 2009 the latest stat we have the CDC reported under 800, 000 which was 5 percent less than the year before. In 2008 the numbers werev2 or 3 percent less than the year before that.

And as more and more women of child bearing years choose long term contraceptives ( which are pretty much goof proof ) as their method of birth control I think the numbers of abortions will be drastically reduced.

The less unwanted pregnancies women have the fewer abortions they will have.

And as you well know, Minnie. Planned Parenthood provided so many services to women....AND MEN's health...that by far outweighs their abortion services and people just don't want to look at that. But PP is one of the best sources in helping so many women get access to birth control who can't gain access otherwise. That's an important prevention measure. It saves way more than just dollars.

Thanks, Minnie...
 
We don't have an abortion problem. We have a prejudice problem. We have a religious problem. We have a misogyny problem.

We have over 55 million abortions. If you want to look to their sources, look to the pro-choice movement, which is so reluctant to recognize the human dignity of the unborn. And etc.
 
We have over 55 million abortions. If you want to look to their sources, look to the pro-choice movement, which is so reluctant to recognize the human dignity of the unborn. And etc.

Yeah...then don't. Do what ya gotta do, Nota...

How have those abortions personally impacted your life? Hell, you didn't even know who was having sex with who when they conceived. But you would like to see the sex police organized I guess? Like that is going to stop abortion. You just want to stop safe abortions.
 
We have over 55 million abortions. If you want to look to their sources, look to the pro-choice movement, which is so reluctant to recognize the human dignity of the unborn. And etc.
These people are so wrapped up in their hate they just can stand for anyone to disagree with them.
 
We have over 55 million abortions. If you want to look to their sources, look to the pro-choice movement, which is so reluctant to recognize the human dignity of the unborn. And etc.

abortion is already super rare, drastically improving it is unlikely, id like too but banning and spouting off empty hyperbolic rhetoric certainly wont do that
 
These people are so wrapped up in their hate they just can stand for anyone to disagree with them.

says the person that has been name calling all the people that disagrees with him lol
 
abortion is already super rare, drastically improving it is unlikely, id like too but banning and spouting off empty hyperbolic rhetoric certainly wont do that

According to the Guttmacher Institute:

• Nearly half of pregnancies among American women are unintended, and about four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion.[1] Twenty-two percent of all pregnancies (excluding miscarriages) end in abortion.[2]

• Forty percent of pregnancies among white women, 67% among blacks and 53% among Hispanics are unintended.[1] • In 2008, 1.21 million abortions were performed, down from 1.31 million in 2000. However, between 2005 and 2008, the long-term decline in abortions stalled. From 1973 through 2008, nearly 50 million legal abortions occurred.[2]

• Each year, two percent of women aged 15–44 have an abortion. Half have had at least one previous abortion.[2,3]

• At least half of American women will experience an unintended pregnancy by age 45, and, at current rates, one in 10 women will have an abortion by age 20, one in four by age 30 and three in 10 by age 45.[4,5]

I don't consider that rare.
 
From the same source [all bolding mine]:

CONTRACEPTIVE USE

• Fifty-four percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users report correct use.[8]

Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Of these women, 33% had perceived themselves to be at low risk for pregnancy, 32% had had concerns about contraceptive methods, 26% had had unexpected sex and 1% had been forced to have sex.[8]

• Eight percent of women who have abortions have never used a method of birth control; nonuse is greatest among those who are young, poor, black, Hispanic or less educated.[8]

About half of unintended pregnancies occur among the 11% of women who are at risk for unintended pregnancy but are not using contraceptives. Most of these women have practiced contraception in the past.[9,10]

Facts on Induced Abortion in the United States
 
According to the Guttmacher Institute:



I don't consider that rare.

but it is rare, less than .1% of sex ends in abortion

im not sure how we dramatically improve on a number lie that, i mean im all for it as i pointed out in the first two posts of my thread, this thread but realistically do you think we largely impact that number.

DOnt get me wrong I still wanna do everything in my first two posts but im "guessing" at best that number goes down to .09? maybe .08
 
Yeah...then don't. Do what ya gotta do, Nota...

How have those abortions personally impacted your life? Hell, you didn't even know who was having sex with who when they conceived. But you would like to see the sex police organized I guess? Like that is going to stop abortion. You just want to stop safe abortions.

Unjust killing has an impact on all of us--on our society and on our humanity.

Killing those who are inconvenient or expensive, whether very young or old or sick, is wrong.
 
From the same source [all bolding mine]:

CONTRACEPTIVE USE

• Fifty-four percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users report correct use.[8]

Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Of these women, 33% had perceived themselves to be at low risk for pregnancy, 32% had had concerns about contraceptive methods, 26% had had unexpected sex and 1% had been forced to have sex.[8]

• Eight percent of women who have abortions have never used a method of birth control; nonuse is greatest among those who are young, poor, black, Hispanic or less educated.[8]

About half of unintended pregnancies occur among the 11% of women who are at risk for unintended pregnancy but are not using contraceptives. Most of these women have practiced contraception in the past.[9,10]

Facts on Induced Abortion in the United States

none of this inform changes that fact that its rare
but i still want to do all thing in my first two posts to try and improve it

how much more rare do you think we can get it? what steps do you want to take different than mine?
 
1.) Unjust killing has an impact on all of us--on our society and on our humanity.

2.)Killing those who are inconvenient or expensive, whether very young or old or sick, is wrong.

1.) many dont fill its unjust, many feel it has a positive impact
2.) again your opinion of inconvenient and wrong isnt shared by millions
 
Unjust killing has an impact on all of us--on our society and on our humanity.

Killing those who are inconvenient or expensive, whether very young or old or sick, is wrong.

You keep making the claim...but offer no real ways you're impacted...personally. And if you want, please tell us how all of humanity is impacted.
 
Aw, feelings hurt? At least you are alive to have feelings.

hurt feelings?
you love making stuff up dont you, its why you fail so much.

nope not at all, just pointing out the facts and your hypocrisy
 
1.) many dont fill its unjust, many feel it has a positive impact
2.) again your opinion of inconvenient and wrong isnt shared by millions

But it is shared by millions. More millions than for abortion. Thats why you have things like in Texas the other day.
 
But it is shared by millions. More millions than for abortion. Thats why you have things like in Texas the other day.

whats your point? millions disagre

my point was its just an opinion, nothing you said changes that
 
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