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Alabama woman dies from legal abortion She was only 18 read all about it click on link http://www.roevwade.org/myth4.html


Indiana abortion practitioner fined for wrongful abortion This Doctor did not even have permission to perform an abortion here is the link http://www.roevwade.org/myth6.html


Abortion practitioner arrested for Medicaid fraud This Abortion Doctor told patients that the were pregnant (when they were not) Read all about it http://www.roevwade.org/myth7.html


Indiana woman sues Planned Parenthood for botched abortion this woman could have died because of advice given by Planned Parenthood and a Botch abortion Check it out http://www.roevwade.org/myth8.html


Florida woman dies following legal abortion Another Tragic case the girl was from Pennsylvania Read about it http://www.roevwade.org/myth9.html


Second Florida woman dies from legal abortion before this girl died she had both legs amputated because of abortion? Check it out http://www.roevwade.org/myth10.html


Suzanne Logan's Story of how abortion paralyzed her for life. Straight from a 60 minutes interview read all about it http://www.roevwade.org/myth11.html


Convicted Abortion Facility Owner Denied New Trial in Abortion Death The owner of the facility tried to stick this woman’s body in the trunk of his car I wonder if he had done this before? Read all about it http://www.roevwade.org/myth12.html


Woman dies following legal abortion at Planned Parenthood facility in St. Louis Right to life group says if it’s available to woman make it safe http://www.roevwade.org/myth1.html


Report Details Medical Irresponsibility Arizona Woman's Abortion-Related Death This doctor was to busy eating lunch to check on his victim. And then called for help from a doctor 20 minutes away when there was a hospital directly across the street? Read all about it http://www.roevwade.org/rvw8.html


Abortion practitioner's negligence in Los Angeles kills woman. This Doctor had a history of malpractice Check it out http://www.roevwade.org/rvw3.html


Brooklyn Woman Dies from Legal Abortion, Police Engage in Cover Up I posted this one already check it out http://www.roevwade.org/rvw11.html


Judge orders unsafe Atlanta abortion facility closed largest abortion facility in Georgia shut down because of filth check it out http://www.roevwade.org/rvw7.html




Los Angeles woman dies from legal abortion This girl was only 17 Her name was Jennifer http://www.roevwade.org/myth2.html


Second Los Angeles woman dies from legal abortion Mother of 5 Dies 22 week Babies head found in the uterus (note My wife and I lost a little girl at 22 weeks She was normal in every way. Just to small to survive) http://www.roevwade.org/myth3.html


Planned Parenthood Covers up Botched Abortion they did not want the ambulance to come with lights and sirens on to save this girl's life? http://www.roevwade.org/myth5.html



Unsafe Legal Abortions Put Women at risk this story tell of thousands of unsafe abortions in L A was published in the LA Times. http://www.roevwade.org/rvw6.html


I wish these deaths were untrue but they are. If Abortion is to remain legal it should be safe. I am Pro Life I hope to end the Genocide being committed on Millions of Babies as well as the women dying from abortion.
 

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In other news, medical malpractice and accidents happen. Luckily, the women are warned of the risks before any medical procedure has happened.

Surgical abortion is a very safe procedure. Surgical procedures in the first trimester are safer than having a tonsillectomy. Less than 1 woman in 100 will have any type of complication, and serious complications are rare.
Of course, there's also this fact:
According to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, abortion is approximately 11 times safer than carrying the pregnancy to childbirth.
So, it would seem that if safety were really an issue and not a strawman, we should be handing out the abortions left and right since it's safer for the woman.
 
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In other news, medical malpractice and accidents happen. Luckily, the women are warned of the risks before any medical procedure has happened.

Is a 15 yr old who has not told her parents that she plans to have an abortion and is looking for a deal able to understand the risk? Will she chose the facility wisely or will she end up in the facilty in Atlanta that was shut down because of filth.


Of course, there's also this fact:

So, it would seem that if safety were really an issue and not a strawman, we should be handing out the abortions left and right since it's safer for the woman.
Today we have AIDS we can not abort AIDS and people have taken more precautions. If we could not abort a baby I believe people would take more precautions, fewer lives would be ruined.
 

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Proudly Pro Life JP Freem said:
Alabama woman dies from legal abortion She was only 18 read all about it click on link http://www.roevwade.org/myth4.html
(I couldn't get any of the lonks to work, all 404, might just be me).

As soon as you become pregnant there are risks. There are still women who die during child birth or through complications of child birth.

I don't wish a 17 year old girl a death or injury throiugh either child birth or abortion, but are we to judge abortion on which risk is greater?
 
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(I couldn't get any of the lonks to work, all 404, might just be me).

As soon as you become pregnant there are risks. There are still women who die during child birth or through complications of child birth.

I don't wish a 17 year old girl a death or injury throiugh either child birth or abortion, but are we to judge abortion on which risk is greater?
The point I was trying to make is abortion is a serious procedure and should not be taken lightly. Routinely children decide were they will go to have this procedure without any parental input, that is wrong. As far as your question which risk is greater it has to be decided by a Doctor because everyone is different.
 

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Proudly Pro Life JP Freem said:
The point I was trying to make is abortion is a serious procedure
And yet is the safest surgical procedure we have and is much safer than giving birth. If you are now pushing the safety issue for women (why the suddeen concern for those you couldn't care if were maimed earlier?) than you should insist on them having abortions instead of giving birth. But you are not, again revealing you to be a lying hypocrite.
As far as your question which risk is greater it has to be decided by a Doctor because everyone is different.
So you admit that your push for political input is wrong, yet you do it? That sounds almost schizophrenic of you.
 

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Man dies from nose job:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/specials/dentists/243231_laney27.asp

Woman dies from nose job:
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=237&i=1940

Nigerian first lady dies after cosmetic surgery:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/spain/article/0,2763,1599889,00.html

The point is, you can take anything from the medical field and look for deaths.
You can take anything from the medical field and find incompetence.
Whatever point you are trying to make is wasted-unless of course you want to totally eradicate the medical profession, in which case you're fighting an even more losing battle.
 

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How about some links showing the sad lives of unwanted children ?
Abused children? Crack babies? Fetal Alcohol Syndrome babies?

I managed to escape actually sitting on the jury for a case where the mom gave birth to a severely physically and mentally handicapped child and then abandoned it. She was into drugs, alcohol, and just short of living on the streets. The institution that was caring for the child was suing the doctors and hospital for compensation on behalf of the child. The state was paying for the child's care, at taxpayer expense, but they wanted several millions of dollars more, "on behalf of the child". There was a time right after birth that the child was dying, but they saved it. I said that they should have let it go back to God, and that is why I was not chosen to sit on that jury. It was obvious to the defendant's lawyers that I think doctors too often play God.

Abortion is repulsive, yes, but the law says that it is legal.
Therefore, it is not an issue to the rest of us. If it is a moral issue, it is between the woman and God. Judgment is not ours, nor should we prevent others from exercising their free will.

It can be a moral issue within your church membership, and the only thing your church can do is kick the unfortunate woman out. Not exactly a Christian thing to do, but there it is.
 

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Proudly Pro Life JP Freem said:
I wish these deaths were untrue but they are. If Abortion is to remain legal it should be safe. I am Pro Life I hope to end the Genocide being committed on Millions of Babies as well as the women dying from abortion.

In 2000, as in previous years, deaths related to legal induced abortions occurred rarely (less than one death per 100,000 abortions).
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5309a1.htm
 
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In 2000, as in previous years, deaths related to legal induced abortions occurred rarely (less than one death per 100,000 abortions).
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5309a1.htm
In LA thousands of Legal abortions are being perfomed in filthy clinics. In Georgia the same situation exist. Fact many women wo have receive an abortion later have problems having children due to damage to cervix which occured during the abortion procedure. Many women suffer after having an abortion with feelings of guilt. For these women I suggest reading "I'll Hold you in Heaven" by Jack Hayford. In each of these cases 2 people died during the procedure. so I guess that double the statistic you mentioned. According to the New England Jounal of Medicine having an abortion is 4 times more dangerous than child birth. http://www.abortiontv.com/Glitch/AbortionMoreDangerous.htm
 

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People like Proudly Pro Life JP Freem survive...abortion blooper #18.


You kill more "life" everytime you masturbate than when you "abort" people, and from the looks of things on this board, we arent aborting people nearly as fast as we ought to.
 

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Proudly Pro Life JP Freem said:
In LA thousands of Legal abortions are being perfomed in filthy clinics.
Oh? because you say so?
In Georgia the same situation exist.
Again, just because you say so?
Fact many women wo have receive an abortion later have problems having children due to damage to cervix which occured during the abortion procedure.
Evidence, please. Or is this just another "because I say so" prolife lie like so many others?
Many women suffer after having an abortion with feelings of guilt.
"many"? Really? because you say so?
In each of these cases 2 people died during the procedure.
"people"? How do you define "people"?
According to the New England Jounal of Medicine having an abortion is 4 times more dangerous than child birth.
A lie. Yearly about 350-500 women die from 4.5 mill childbirths, while about 3-11 women die from 1.1-1.3 mill abortions. Child birth is about 15 times as dangerous as having an abortion. WHY are you lying?
Ah, THAT explains it. ABTV has been proven and documented to lie (Busta, help me out here). If I was you, I would get my info from something else than a prol-life pro-lie site.
 
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Oh? because you say so?
Again, just because you say so?
Evidence, please. Or is this just another "because I say so" prolife lie like so many others?
"many"? Really? because you say so?
"people"? How do you define "people"?
A lie. Yearly about 350-500 women die from 4.5 mill childbirths, while about 3-11 women die from 1.1-1.3 mill abortions. Child birth is about 15 times as dangerous as having an abortion. WHY are you lying?
Ah, THAT explains it. ABTV has been proven and documented to lie (Busta, help me out here). If I was you, I would get my info from something else than a prol-life pro-lie site.
"New England Journal of Medicine" Not good enough?
 

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Proudly Pro Life JP Freem said:
"New England Journal of Medicine" Not good enough?
Except that the NEJM didn't state this. ABTV lied and misrepresented NEJM.

What you quoted was not NEJM, it was ABTV's lies
 

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Proudly Pro Life JP Freem said:
Fact many women wo have receive an abortion later have problems having children due to damage to cervix which occured during the abortion procedure.
Of all the women I know who have had abortions, and two I know had more than one, everyone one of them went on to have more than one healthy child. I'd like to see the stats on this, since just those in my circle of friends and family were 100% fine in future conceptions.
And still, NOTHING viable to debate why women's reproductive rights in this country should be denied.....
 

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And just to make sure it sticks, here is the SCIENTIFIC research on thsi subject, all dsiproving the prolife lie about a post-abortion syndrome:

Major B et al. (2000). "Psychological responses of women after first-trimester abortion. Archives of General Psychiatry, 57, 777-784.

Russo NF et al. (1997). The relationship of abortion to well-being: Do race and religion make a difference? Professional Psychology: Research and Practice, 28, 23-31.

Lydon J et al. (1996). Pregnancy decision making as a significant life event: A comittment approach. Journal of Personal and Social Psychology, 71, 141-151.

Gilchrist AC et al. (1995). Termination of pregnancy and psychiatric morbidity. British Journal of Psychiatry, 167, 243-248.

Cozzarelli C et al. (1994). The effects of anti-abortion demonstrators and pro-choice escorts on women's psychological response to abortions. Journal of Social and Clinical Psychology, 13, 404-427.

Major B et al. (1992). Psychosocial predictors of adjustment to abortion. Journal of Social Issues, 48, 121-142.

Russo NF et al. (1992). Abortion, childbearing and women's well-being. Professional Psychology: Research and Practice, 23, 269-280.

Adler NE et al. (1992). Psychological factors in abortion: An overview. American Journal of Psychology, 47, 1194-1204.

Adler NE et al. (1990). Psychological responses after abortions. Science, 47, 248, 41-43.

Dag g PKB (1991). The psychological sequelae of therapeutic abortion-Denied and completed. American Journal of Psychiatry, 148, 578-585.

Blumenthal SJ (1991). Psychiatric consequenses of abortion, an overview. In NL Scotland (ed.). Psychiatric aspects of abortion, pp. 17-38. Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Press.

Zabin LS et al. (1989). When urban adolescents choose abortion: Effects on education, psychological status, and subsequent pregnancy. Family Planning Perspective, 21, 248-255.

Mueller P et al. (1989). Self-blame, self-efficacy, and adjustment to abortion. Journal of Personal and Social Psychology, 57, 1059-1068.

Schwartz RA (1986). Abortion on request: The psychiatric implications. In JD Butler et al. (eds.). Abortion, medicine, and the law (3rd ed.; pp. 323-340). NY: File.

Major, B et al. (1985). Attributions, expectations, and coping with abortion. Journal of Personal and Social Psychology, 48, 585-599.

David HP (1981). Postpartum and postabortion psychotic reactions. Family Planning Perspective, 13, 88-92.

Shusterman L (1979). Predicting the psychological consequenses of of abortion: Social Science Medicine, 13, 683-689.

National Academy of Sciences (1975). Legalized abortion and the public health. Washington, DC: author.

Adler, NE (1975). Emotional responses of women following therapeutic abortion. American Journal of Orthopsychiatry, 45, 446-454.

Athanasiou R et al. (1975). Psychiatric sequellae to term birth and induced early and late abortions. Family Practice Perspectives, 5, 227-231.
 
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steen said:
And just to make sure it sticks, here is the SCIENTIFIC research on thsi subject, all dsiproving the prolife lie about a post-abortion syndrome:

I to will provide scientific information that appeared in the "New England Journal of Medicine"

http://www.abortiontv.com/Glitch/AbortionMoreDangerous.htm

Here are Dr Reardon Sources

See also:
o Informed Consent Booklets Hide True Risks of Abortion
o The Cover-Up: Why U.S. Abortion Mortality Statistics Are Meaningless
o Two Senseless Deaths: The Long Road to Recovery
o Abortionists Are Not Held Accountable for Mistakes
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1. Gissler, M., et. al., "Pregnancy-associated deaths in Finland 1987-1994 -- definition problems and benefits of record linkage," Acta Obsetricia et Gynecolgica Scandinavica 76:651-657 (1997).
2. Mika Gissler, Elina Hemminki, Jouko Lonnqvist, "Suicides after pregnancy in Finland: 1987-94: register linkage study" British Medical Journal 313:1431-4, 1996.
3. McFadden, A., "The Link Between Abortion and Child Abuse," Family Resources Center News (January 1998) 20.
4. S. J. Drower, & E. S. Nash, "Therapeutic Abortion on Psychiatric Grounds," South African Medical Journal 54:604-608, Oct. 7, 1978; B. Jansson, Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavia 41:87, 1965.
5. David Reardon, "Psychological Reactions Reported After Abortion," The Post-Abortion Review, 2(3):4-8, Fall 1994; Anne C. Speckhard, The Psychological Aspects of Stress Following Abortion (Kansas City: Sheed & Ward, 1987); Vincent Rue, "Traumagenic Aspects of Elective Abortion: Preliminary Findings from an International Study" Healing Visions Conference, June 22, 1996
6. Christopher L. Morgan, et. al., "Mental health may deteriorate as a direct effect of induced abortion," letters section, BMJ 314:902, 22 March, 1997.
7. E. Joanne Angelo, Psychiatric Sequelae of Abortion: The Many Faces of Post-Abortion Grief," Linacre Quarterly 59:69-80, May 1992; David Grimes, "Second-Trimester Abortions in the United States, Family Planning Perspectives 16(6):260; Myre Sim and Robert Neisser, "Post-Abortive Psychoses," The Psychological Aspects of Abortion, ed. D. Mall and W.F. Watts, (Washington D.C.: University Publications of America, 1979).
8. Carl Tischler, "Adolescent Suicide Attempts Following Elective Abortion," Pediatrics 68(5):670, 1981.
9. "Psychopathological Effects of Voluntary Termination of Pregnancy on the Father Called Up for Military Service," Psychologie Medicale 14(8):1187-1189, June 1982; Angelo, op. cit.
10. B. Garfinkle, H. Hoberman, J. Parsons and J. Walker, "Stress, Depression and Suicide: A Study of Adolescents in Minnesota" (Minneapolis: University of Minnesota Extension Service, 1986)
11. Esther R. Greenglass, "Therapeutic Abortion and Psychiatric Disturbance in Canadian Women," Canadian Psychiatric Association Journal, 21(7):453-460, 1976; Helen Houston & Lionel Jacobson, "Overdose and Termination of Pregnancy: An Important Association?" British Journal of General Practice, 46:737-738, 1996.
12. Elizabeth Rosenthal, "Women's Suicides Reveal China's Bitter Roots: Nation Starts to Confront World's Highest Rate," The New York Times, Sunday January 24, 1999, p. 1, 8.
13. R.F. Badgley, D.F. Caron, M.G. Powell, Report of the Committee on the Abortion Law, Minister of Supply and Services, Ottawa, 1977:313-319.
14. Jeff Nelson,"Data Request from Delegate Marshall" Interagency Memorandum, Virginia Department of Medical Assistance Services, Mar. 21, 1997.
15. Carl Tischler, "Adolescent Suicide Attempts Following Elective Abortion," Pediatrics 68(5):670, 1981; E. Joanne Angelo, Psychiatric Sequelae of Abortion: The Many Faces of Post-Abortion Grief," Linacre Quarterly 59:69-80, May 1992.
16. D.C. Reardon and P.G. Ney, "Abortion and Subsequent Substance Abuse" Am J Drug Alcohol Abuse 26(1):61-75.
17. David Reardon, "Psychological Reactions Reported After Abortion," The Post-Abortion Review, 2(3):4-8, Fall 1994
18. Personal communication with Mika Gissler, March 8, 2000.
19. D. Berkeley, P.L. Humphreys, and D. Davidson, "Demands Made on General Practice by Women Before and After an Abortion," J. R. Coll. Gen. Pract. 34:310-315, 1984.
20. Philip G. Ney, Tak Fung, Adele Rose Wickett and Carol Beaman-Dodd, "The Effects of Pregnancy Loss on Women's Health," Soc. Sci. Med. 48(9):1193-1200, 1994.
21. Gissler, et.al. (1997) 652.
 

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Proudly Pro Life JP Freem said:
I to will provide scientific information that appeared in the "New England Journal of Medicine"
Can'to far, all I saw was more reference to the ABTV lie site.

Here are Dr Reardon Sources
Oh, good one. Reardon is director of an anti-abortion agency. I have personally taken him to task in the Scientific Literature and medical journals for his misrepresentation. Reardon's favorite ploy is to dig out a correelation and then claim causation, which is fkagrantly dishonest. yes, his findland study is famous for just that deception, f.ex.

You realyl need to come up with somebody other than David Reardon
See also:
o Informed Consent Booklets Hide True Risks of Abortion
o The Cover-Up: Why U.S. Abortion Mortality Statistics Are Meaningless
o Two Senseless Deaths: The Long Road to Recovery
o Abortionists Are Not Held Accountable for Mistakes
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Nothing scientific there.
1. Gissler, M., et. al., "Pregnancy-associated deaths in Finland 1987-1994 -- definition problems and benefits of record linkage," Acta Obsetricia et Gynecolgica Scandinavica 76:651-657 (1997).
2. Mika Gissler, Elina Hemminki, Jouko Lonnqvist, "Suicides after pregnancy in Finland: 1987-94: register linkage study" British Medical Journal 313:1431-4, 1996.
Yes, where reardon misrepresented correlation as cousation. I already dealt with that.
3. McFadden, A., "The Link Between Abortion and Child Abuse," Family Resources Center News (January 1998) 20.
Not scientific.
4. S. J. Drower, & E. S. Nash, "Therapeutic Abortion on Psychiatric Grounds," South African Medical Journal 54:604-608, Oct. 7, 1978; B. Jansson, Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavia 41:87, 1965.
You have two references here. I checked them both out (abstract only) and they did not seem to confirm any prolife argument. So what is the validity of these references/? Could you clarify?
5. David Reardon, "Psychological Reactions Reported After Abortion," The Post-Abortion Review, 2(3):4-8, Fall 1994; Anne C. Speckhard, The Psychological Aspects of Stress Following Abortion (Kansas City: Sheed & Ward, 1987); Vincent Rue, "Traumagenic Aspects of Elective Abortion: Preliminary Findings from an International Study" Healing Visions Conference, June 22, 1996
One non-scientific journal, one non-peer-reviewed book, and one anti-abortion presentation. Nothing scientific evidence-like there.
6. Christopher L. Morgan, et. al., "Mental health may deteriorate as a direct effect of induced abortion," letters section, BMJ 314:902, 22 March, 1997.
Letters are not peer-reviewed.
7. E. Joanne Angelo, Psychiatric Sequelae of Abortion: The Many Faces of Post-Abortion Grief," Linacre Quarterly 59:69-80, May 1992;
Not a scientific source.
David Grimes, "Second-Trimester Abortions in the United States, Family Planning Perspectives 16(6):260;
Doesn't confirm any prolife argument......

and so on. AT this point I got tired of chasing non-existing evidence. Please go through the list and show what scientific evidence there actually is in there in support of your claims.
 
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Can'to far, all I saw was more reference to the ABTV lie site.

Oh, good one. Reardon is director of an anti-abortion agency. I have personally taken him to task in the Scientific Literature and medical journals for his misrepresentation. Reardon's favorite ploy is to dig out a correelation and then claim causation, which is fkagrantly dishonest. yes, his findland study is famous for just that deception, f.ex.

You realyl need to come up with somebody other than David Reardon
Nothing scientific there.
Yes, where reardon misrepresented correlation as cousation. I already dealt with that.
Not scientific.
You have two references here. I checked them both out (abstract only) and they did not seem to confirm any prolife argument. So what is the validity of these references/? Could you clarify?
One non-scientific journal, one non-peer-reviewed book, and one anti-abortion presentation. Nothing scientific evidence-like there.
Letters are not peer-reviewed.
Not a scientific source.
Doesn't confirm any prolife argument......

and so on. AT this point I got tired of chasing non-existing evidence. Please go through the list and show what scientific evidence there actually is in there in support of your claims.
So you get to decide who is lying and who is Scientific? What is your background and are you qualified to decide this? Hmmm
 

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Proudly Pro Life JP Freem said:
So you get to decide who is lying and who is Scientific?
No, the scientific/medical peer-review of which I am a mmember are the ones who get to decide this.
What is your background and are you qualified to decide this? Hmmm
I have the scientific, statistical and medical background qualifying me to determine that reardon's claims are not supported by the data. And I have the same qualification is noting that the referenced journal articles do not support the conclusion that prolifers are making about them.

In this, prolifers lie almost as much as the creationists. It must be a fundie thing, this idea that it is OK to bear false witness as long as it is for some quasi-religious political cause.

if you want to, we can look at the journal articles in detail and note the data, claims and whether they are justified. Are you game? Do you have enough background and knowledge in this to actually do so, or are you all about moral fervor with no factual background?

I personally vouch for the information in the references that I provided and have reviewed them. I KNOW what is in there and know the validity of the claims. Obviously you did NOT do that.
 

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Proudly Pro Life JP Freem said:
In LA thousands of Legal abortions are being perfomed in filthy clinics. In Georgia the same situation exist. Fact many women wo have receive an abortion later have problems having children due to damage to cervix which occured during the abortion procedure. Many women suffer after having an abortion with feelings of guilt. For these women I suggest reading "I'll Hold you in Heaven" by Jack Hayford. In each of these cases 2 people died during the procedure. so I guess that double the statistic you mentioned. According to the New England Jounal of Medicine having an abortion is 4 times more dangerous than child birth. http://www.abortiontv.com/Glitch/AbortionMoreDangerous.htm
I provided a very reputable link showing national mortality from abortion procedures, the U.S. CDC. Do you think they have an agenda? I don't believe you about filthy clinics in the places you mention, but even if you are right, the below rate is still the same, <1 per 100,000.
 
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tryreading said:
I provided a very reputable link showing national mortality from abortion procedures, the U.S. CDC. Do you think they have an agenda? I don't believe you about filthy clinics in the places you mention, but even if you are right, the below rate is still the same, <1 per 100,000.
If you went to the site you would find all Dr Reardon sources at the bottom of the article.

http://www.abortiontv.com/Glitch/Abo...eDangerous.htm
 
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tryreading said:
I provided a very reputable link showing national mortality from abortion procedures, the U.S. CDC. Do you think they have an agenda? I don't believe you about filthy clinics in the places you mention, but even if you are right, the below rate is still the same, <1 per 100,000.
OK Here are some more sources

"the occurrance of either induced or spontaneous abortions independently and significantly increased the risk of subsequent development of secondary infertility." - Study of 252 women at Harvard from the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health. Feb 1993 issue.

· "Uterine bleeding occurred on the second or third day after RU486 intake in 1256 women (88.8 percent), and lasted 11.7 +/- 6.4 (SD) days, range 2-55 days. One subject had blood transfusions due to excessive bleeding." -Shangchun, W., et al., Contraception

"Prolonged bleeding/spotting lasting more than two weeks had been found in more than 20 percent of women who had complete abortion in this study [of RU486]." --Shangchun, W., et al., Contraception

African American women who have had abortions are 4.7 times more likely to get breast cancer. -- Laing AE, et al.Breast Cancer Risk Factors in African American Women: The Howard University Tumor Registry Experience. Similar studies have supported this among women of other races, such as "Risk of Breast Cancer Among Young Women: Relationship to Induced Abortion" by Janet Darling, et al. in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute

Psychological Side Effects
· A survey was conducted of 1900 women who had had abortions. The survey asked "Were there any negative psychological effects... [caused] by your abortion?" 94% answered "Yes." 2% answered "No."
· Another study was conducted by Dr. Anne Speckhard at the University of Minnesota. She concluded, "After 5-10 years 54% of mothers choosing abortion had nightmares, 81% had preoccupation with their aborted child, 35% had perceived visitations with their child, and 96% felt they had taken a human life."
· 39000 women who have had an abortion are members of NARAL. 245000 women who have had abortions are members of National Right to Life.
 
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UtahBill said:
How about some links showing the sad lives of unwanted children ?
Abused children? Crack babies? Fetal Alcohol Syndrome babies?

I managed to escape actually sitting on the jury for a case where the mom gave birth to a severely physically and mentally handicapped child and then abandoned it. She was into drugs, alcohol, and just short of living on the streets. The institution that was caring for the child was suing the doctors and hospital for compensation on behalf of the child. The state was paying for the child's care, at taxpayer expense, but they wanted several millions of dollars more, "on behalf of the child". There was a time right after birth that the child was dying, but they saved it. I said that they should have let it go back to God, and that is why I was not chosen to sit on that jury. It was obvious to the defendant's lawyers that I think doctors too often play God.

Abortion is repulsive, yes, but the law says that it is legal.
Therefore, it is not an issue to the rest of us. If it is a moral issue, it is between the woman and God. Judgment is not ours, nor should we prevent others from exercising their free will.

It can be a moral issue within your church membership, and the only thing your church can do is kick the unfortunate woman out. Not exactly a Christian thing to do, but there it is.
This is still Country where we the People decide. The majority of Americans oppose abortion except in cases of rape, incest,or health of the mother. These make up less than1% of all abortions performed. We have the right to try to change the laws that we the people do not like. Examples of this occur throughout our history a recent one is the Civil Rights movment and they should be proud of their accomplisments.
 

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Proudly Pro Life JP Freem said:
This is still Country where we the People decide. The majority of Americans oppose abortion except in cases of rape, incest,or health of the mother. These make up less than1% of all abortions performed. We have the right to try to change the laws that we the people do not like. Examples of this occur throughout our history a recent one is the Civil Rights movment and they should be proud of their accomplisments.
"We the people" have decided, via SCOTUS. If a national referendum stated that we should ban abortion, it would still have to face SCOTUS again.
And even if we did ban it here in the USA, there are many nearby countries surrounding us, north, south, and even east, where the procedure would remain legal.
Abortion was practiced long ago, even during the time that Christ was on his mission. Yet, he said nothing about it. He said nothing about a lot of things.
What he DID say something about is, unfortunately, ignored by most of us.
He did say, don't judge, judgment is mine, love one another, feed my lambs, etc.
Throwing rocks at "sinners" is not an answer to the problem.

BTW, the civil rights movement was accomplished mostly by the minorities demanding their rights, and the courts supporting them, not the general (white) public.
 
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