A record 4.3 million workers walked off the job in August

[Chainsawmassacre]

what was that wage adjusted to today's salary? I am betting the average house didn't cost $280,000 either, did it?

Nobody ever bought a house on minimum wage. Low wage low skill low education jobs are generally entry level positions. From there you gain skills or education or both and work your way up the ladder in order to earn more money and someday buy that house. An artificially inflated by government minimum wage along with government benefits kills incentive and would lead to a permanent underclass and career burger flippers.

 

[roguenuke]

So they are free to move without working? Where are they getting that kind of mobility from?

Moving to other jobs in their area. Heck, some may move to other jobs outside their area with just a little bit of help from others for expenses, or perhaps they used a stimulus to move.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

oh and your memory must be fuzzy...min wage was never 1.50...in 67 it was 1.40 and in 68 it raised to 1.60...the average cost of a home....$2,390.

Could be fuzzy. I just remember my first job being $3.00 an hour and being so proud because it was double minimum wage.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

you are missing or intentionally leaving out the WORK REQUIREMENT....for BOTH PARENTS.

No both parents do not have to work for benefits such as food stamps.
The following is exactly the stay at home mom I've been talking about.
Next subject.



You are excused from the ABAWD work requirement and time limit if you are any one of these things:

• Pregnant;
• Have someone under 18 in your SNAP household;

 

[ClaraD]

The left don't want to work for a living. They want everything handed to them.

really? Interesting...seems to me most of the of us do work for a living....since Democrats overall tend to be younger..and Republicans much older....it seems they are the ones on Social Security and not working.

 

[ClaraD]

No both parents do not have to work for benefits such as food stamps.
The following is exactly the stay at home mom I've been talking about.
Next subject.



You are excused from the ABAWD work requirement and time limit if you are any one of these things:

actually they do....it says all adults under age 59 and yes, the exception is under 18 years old...because they are in school and not married most of the time and pregnant women face unique risks in the workplace...but they are forgiven for 9 months only. Also, if one parent is working full time and the other at home....they likely aren't going to qualify for anything anyway...they might qualify for 20 bucks or up to 50 bucks...a month in food stamps...but good God how greedy can you be to complain about someone getting 20 bucks in food stamps? Are you that damn void of empathy?

 

[ClaraD]

Nobody ever bought a house on minimum wage. Low wage low skill low education jobs are generally entry level positions. From there you gain skills or education or both and work your way up the ladder in order to earn more money and someday buy that house. An artificially inflated by government minimum wage along with government benefits kills incentive and would lead to a permanent underclass and career burger flippers.

No one? Really? My mother did in 1971 and she was in a single parent household.

 

[jaeger19]

First off you said "dude" one too many times so I just can't take you serious .

I've been pretty explicit and have covered several scenarios as you pointed out. All of which revolve around a base support from government.
Read the following in bold carefully "dude". LOL


"If you have a low income and need help with basic living expenses, you may qualify for government benefits to help cover food, housing, medical, and other costs. The federal government creates and gives money to states to run major assistance programs. Your state helps pay for some of these and may offer others too."

Government Benefits | USAGov​

View attachment 67358346
www.usa.gov/benefits

Yes.
We have welfare for decades and all those programs.
And low unemployment..
Again..the data doesn't support your premise..
Just face facts..your assumptions aren't based in reality.
Dude.

 

[Schism]

really? Interesting...seems to me most of the of us do work for a living....since Democrats overall tend to be younger..and Republicans much older....it seems they are the ones on Social Security and not working.

LOL!! ^^ This is the ignorance that pervades the left.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

actually they do....it says all adults under age 59 and yes, the exception is under 18 years old...because they are in school and not married most of the time and pregnant women face unique risks in the workplace...but they are forgiven for 9 months only. Also, if one parent is working full time and the other at home....they likely aren't going to qualify for anything anyway...they might qualify for 20 bucks or up to 50 bucks...a month in food stamps...but good God how greedy can you be to complain about someone getting 20 bucks in food stamps? Are you that damn void of empathy?

You read that wrong. If anyone in the house is under 18 the parent does not have to work.

It's over Clara. Next subject.

• Have someone under 18 in your SNAP household;

 

[ClaraD]

Few if any retire from low wage service industry jobs. That's where the worker shortage is.

I am still waiting for you to provide proof of your allegation about the ports and trucking earlier...you claimed my post and link about the ports was false.....and then you did not back your claim up.....either you found out you were wrong and decided to move on or you have no clue what you are talking about and are just running your mouth without checking out the reasons things are occurring.. You also said that Trump had no part in the issue...here ya go. He massively cut the budget for the ports and their infrastructure.

Trump's Budget Request Cuts Port Funding

President Donald Trump sent Congress a 2018 budget request on Tuesday, with the American Association...

www.maritime-executive.com

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

No one? Really? My mother did in 1971 and she was in a single parent household.

Your memory must be fuzzy or mom had financial help.

My first house ( mobile home on 5 acres) was in 75 and I barely swung it making $7.00 an hour and working 10 hour 6 day weeks.
Also in those days you needed 20% down. Your mom never could have saved that on minimum wage.

 

[ClaraD]

You read that wrong. If anyone in the house is under 18 the parent does not have to work.

It's over Clara. Next subject.

• Have someone under 18 in your SNAP household;

again, what part of if one person is working full time, it is very unlikely that they even qualify for food stamps did you not understand? It certainly would not make up for the loss of the second income....its not a benefit that would encourage anyone to stop working and you haven't shown that more people are getting food stamps...so, you are insisting by stamping your feet that you are right...but the facts show you are wrong.

 

[ClaraD]

Your memory must be fuzzy or mom had financial help.

My first house ( mobile home on 5 acres) was in 75 and I barely swung it making $7.00 an hour and working 10 hour 6 day weeks.
Also in those days you needed 20% down. Your mom never could have saved that on minimum wage.

she paid zero down....and she paid for it just fine...her first home cost her $1900 and like I said it was 1971 and it was no mobile home...but it also wasn't on 5 acres.....it was on about 1/4 an acre....btw, minimum wage is $7.25 an hour today.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

I am still waiting for you to provide proof of your allegation about the ports and trucking earlier...you claimed my post and link about the ports was false.....and then you did not back your claim up.....either you found out you were wrong and decided to move on or you have no clue what you are talking about and are just running your mouth without checking out the reasons things are occurring.. You also said that Trump had no part in the issue...here ya go. He massively cut the budget for the ports and their infrastructure.

Trump's Budget Request Cuts Port Funding

President Donald Trump sent Congress a 2018 budget request on Tuesday, with the American Association...

www.maritime-executive.com

I claimed no such thing about Trump nor did I say a link was false. Maybe you have me confused with someone else.
That said I don't have to prove anything to you.
Read my signature.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

again, what part of if one person is working full time, it is very unlikely that they even qualify for food stamps did you not understand? It certainly would not make up for the loss of the second income....its not a benefit that would encourage anyone to stop working and you haven't shown that more people are getting food stamps...so, you are insisting by stamping your feet that you are right...but the facts show you are wrong.

Fact shows mom doesn't have to work to receive food stamps as you previously claimed. Just admit you were wrong.

You are excused from the ABAWD work requirement and time limit if you are any one of these things:

• Have someone under 18 in your SNAP household;

SNAP Work Requirements | Food and Nutrition Service

www.fns.usda.gov

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

she paid zero down....and she paid for it just fine...her first home cost her $1900 and like I said it was 1971 and it was no mobile home...but it also wasn't on 5 acres.....it was on about 1/4 an acre....btw, minimum wage is $7.25 an hour today.

If she paid zero down it wasn't a bank loan so it was a sweetheart deal with a private party and irrelevant to this conversation.

By the way I know. I was making the big bucks back then.

 

[ClaraD]

If she paid zero down it wasn't a bank loan so it was a sweetheart deal with a private party and irrelevant to this conversation.

By the way I know. I was making the big bucks back then.

it was a bank loan...sorry to burst your bubble...so, no it isn't irrelevant to this conversation. Btw, that same home today is worth more than $200,000
At $7 you were making big bucks? lmao...yeah, no you weren't wealthy if you bought a mobile home on your salary....and wtf buys a mobile home and thinks it is a good investment? I can see someone buying it, because it beats renting...but thinking it is a smart investment? Yeah, no.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

it was a bank loan...sorry to burst your bubble...so, no it isn't irrelevant to this conversation. Btw, that same home today is worth more than $200,000

$7.00 an hour 10 hours a day 6 days a week. I was doing very well for that era. BTW I bought the mobile home on 5 acres for 24k and sold it four years later for 40 k. Land alone now in that part of California is worth more than I can even imagine.

 

[bearpoker]

John must be young. Minimum wage was $1.50 when I was a kid.
The world has changed and whining doesn't help. America was the only real industrialized country not devastated by WW2 and China was a third world country. We got a free ride for a couple of decades and expected things to stay the same. Europe and Japan rebuilt and industrialized and then China got in the game. We have a whole world of competition now which is why increasing taxes on US corporations and imposing unrealistic environmental laws on them is a dumb idea as are union contracts with rediculously lucrative retirement benefits.

Wrong as usual. Federal minimum wage was $1.60. I was born in 1950 and I have an excellent memory.

 

[bearpoker]

And government should stay out of that contract negotiation.

You favor collective bargaining? If that's the case, I'm with you all the way. The union makes us strong!

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

Wrong as usual. Federal minimum wage was $1.60. I was born in 1950 and I have an excellent memory.

Could be fuzzy. I just remember my first job being $3.00 an hour and being so proud because it was double minimum wage.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

You favor collective bargaining? If that's the case, I'm with you all the way. The union makes us strong!

Unions had their place in history but have outlived their usefulness and cost America jobs.

 

[bearpoker]

A drop in number yes. Some returned to work. We need everyone who had a job before the shutdown to return to work but with all the government programs available it makes more financial sense for some to stay home.

What are those programs? Be specific. Give links. Personally, I think you're full of shit. Prove me wrong. I double dog dare you.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

What are those programs? Be specific. Give links. Personally, I think you're full of shit. Prove me wrong. I double dog dare you.

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