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A Question for the Skeptics...

I've thought about what changed the all-too-human Peter and the other disciples from being cowardly to becoming fearless in the face of death. Something happened to transform them. It's not a game to wonder, particularly if you're a non-theist, what that something was.

Just about every week people with all too many Human flaws put on explosive vests and blow up themselves and innocents, exuberant to do "the will of God".
So a very good question why someone becomes ready to face death, but hardly qualifies as evidence that Jesus rose from the dead.
 
Just about every week people with all too many Human flaws put on explosive vests and blow up themselves and innocents, exuberant to do "the will of God".
So a very good question why someone becomes ready to face death, but hardly qualifies as evidence that Jesus rose from the dead.
In both cases "belief" is fundamental to their "courage" to carry out a bold plan/activity. The disciples of Jesus had the belief that Jesus arose from the dead contributing to their boldness to preach the "gospel" even though the powers of the time would attack them. Peter made it clear to the Pharisees that he was not afraid anymore of them and cites the reasons for his newfound boldness (when before he was behind closed doors with the other Apostles for fear of the Jews).

Acts 5:26-32
26Then went the captain with the officers, and brought them without violence: for they feared the people, lest they should have been stoned. 27And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them, 28Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us. 29Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. 30The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. 31Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. 32And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

The belief in the risen Christ followed up with the receiving of the promised gift -- holy spiriit, is what emboldened the Apostles to stand up to the powers of the time. They weren't called to die for God. They were called to live for Him. Dying, can sometimes be alot more easier than living.
 
I've thought about what changed the all-too-human Peter and the other disciples from being cowardly to becoming fearless in the face of death. Something happened to transform them. It's not a game to wonder, particularly if you're a non-theist, what that something was.
Once more unto the breach!


The same thing that happens to any soldier in the face of battle. A leader inspires them. Generally, with words.
 
Ever play telephone?

Only a fool would believe his wife got pregnant via immaculate conception while he was away on a business trip.

Seriously. Ask yourself, why aren't unfaithful women the world over making that claim?

Because people aren't that stupid anymore.
I would believe an angel above any human playing a silly game...
 
Once more unto the breach!


The same thing that happens to any soldier in the face of battle. A leader inspires them. Generally, with words.
Words didn't help much, as they pretty much abandoned him at death.
 
A fellow by the name of James Madison wrote a few words about religion back in his day


"Who does not see that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other Sects? "

-James Madison, Letter to F.L. Schaeffer, Dec 3, 1821
 
One might think that a person who claims to see and hear "an angel" is either suffering a psychotic episode or is enjoying a nice psychedelic substance.
You might be onto something there.

It turns out that atheists might not believe in God, but a surprisingly large percentage are weirdly cool with other supernatural beliefs with exactly as much supporting evidence: such as life after death and the existence of ghosts.
 
One might think that a person who claims to see and hear "an angel" is either suffering a psychotic episode or is enjoying a nice psychedelic substance.
Or, of course, that the person did see an angel.
 
Just so we're all on the same page, here...

Believing in goblins, dragons, faeries, nymphs, dryads, etc...is paganism, and was, at one time, punishable by death...and is currently punishable by external damnation.

But belief in angels is perfectly normal and acceptable.
 
I would believe an angel above any human playing a silly game...
Of course, the only way you think you know about any angel above is from a human playing a silly game.
 
I've never known anyone who says he's seen a dragon.
Not in recent history, no. But dragons are cited in the bible and in biblical stories about as often as angels.

I've never known anyone who says they've seen an angel.
 
Not in recent history, no. But dragons are cited in the bible and in biblical stories about as often as angels.

I've never known anyone who says they've seen an angel.
I do.
 
They're just as confused or crazy as folks who see dragons.
Maybe dragons are one of the forms angels chose to appear as. Or they appeared in any form. Nothing says they are limited in what form they reveal themselves.
 
Words are what all leaders use to inspire those who follow them.
That could be true, but the leader of the Christian sect was crucified. What point would the Apostles have in trying to keep it going? Peter preferred his life of fishing and the other Apostles had their careers they probably wanted to return to. They were facing persecution and/or death. They had more motivation to give up. Why continue on for a dead leader? Riches?
 
Or, of course, that the person did see an angel.
The question then is 'how do you know that'? How can it be determined that 1) they were telling the truth and 2) that they are right in what they thought they saw was an angel?
 
You're always full of questions, no answers...
Did you know that sometimes a question is an answer in and of itself?
 
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