I smoke cigarettes(and nobody is going to nag me to stop, it's my last remaining vice along with caffeine), and used to get high alot. I am really of two minds on the subject. I think people are much more self-destructive on weed than alcohol(people don't drink much at work, but getting high on breaks does happen), but it's not going to be stopped and prohibition is expensive. I don't think I would really advocate for or against it's legalization, though I would lean towards being against it.
I have to ask you... what have you experienced that makes you think cannabis is more destructive than alcohol?
As I said, one example is the greater prevalence of people getting high at work compared to drinking. It's not directly destructive, but getting caught is pretty destructive. I find that people who would not dream of drinking in certain situations(ie when you first get up, or at or before work, and so on) will get high in those situations.
Sorry, but I guess our definitions of destructive are different. In my mind, it needs to cause severe dysfunction to your life for it to be called destructive. I've never known a pot head who wanted to start fights or got aggressive when he was high, or get into car accidents. Alcohol can cause all those things.
Losing your job is much worse for you than getting into a bar fight.
Apparently you haven't seen some of the same types of bar fights I have.
And chemically, alcohol is a far greater danger overall than marijuana. Alcohol is one of a very small group of drugs where withdrawal symptoms can be fatal.
In moderation, neither one is terrible, but when abuse occurs, alcohol is much, much worse than marijuana.
It has the most severe withdrawal symptoms of any drug we know of. Heroin, cocaine, and nicotine withdrawal all pale in comparison to alcohol withdrawal. It causes hallucinations, severe pain, tremors, vomitting and sometimes death.
What you are describing with the MJ use at work is abuse, so we should compare apples to apples.
And don't smoke marijuana at all. Used to on occasion when I was a teenager, but I didn't really like it all that much.
But if I were to rank drugs in order of their overall danger, Alcohol makes my top three, but marijuana doesn't even make the top ten.
But I'm in favor of legalizing and regulating all drugs, including heroin and meth, not just marijuana.
Yes, because if somebody wants to get high it should be no business of mine. Stoned or sober he's still responsible for what he does.
Yes, I think it should be legal, for the reasons already listed here and because my own observation says that stoned people usually don't cause as many problems as drunk people.
I was not speaking to chemical/biological dangers at all. You are correct that alcohol has much worse withdrawals(trust me on this), but for whatever reason, to use your terms, abuse of pot seems much more likely among users. I am not sure if that is a social stigma thing(people who would not put up with some one coming to work drunk turn a blind eye to some one high at work), or due to a difference in the way they work on the mind, or what, it just seems from my experience that the incidence of pot abuse is higher among those who use it than alcohol.
I don't think they are more likely to be abusers as much as I think the type of people who end up abusing pot are the same types who seem to revel in their abuse.
Alcoholism is something that many people try to hide. For some reason pot abuse is something stoners wear as a badge of honor.
I think it's inherent in the people who become abusers more than the drug itself.
I know many people who are moderate users of marijuana who would never dream of using pot at work.
I also know people who couldn't make it through a day without a drink.
As for your first, you could well be right. It's hard when judging something from personnel experience, as you just lack data. I am guessing based on what I have seen, so take it for what it's worth.
The rest I agree with for sure.
I'm using a combo of personal experience and personal research on the subject.
I know too many people from both groups of abusers, and to be honest, the alcohol abusers are harder to spot in general everyday life until they get to a certain point, when the physical manifestations of their addiction become very obvious.
I wonder if the fact that alcohol abuse does have those physical manifestations is part of what I see. It's easier to hide pot abuse for extended periods. No one really knows how much you actually do.
Yes-- I don't smoke and support it
Cops will tell you a stoner is usually mellow, and easy to arrest. A drunk, tho, wants to fight in a lot of cases....
I don't smoke it. I think it is a filthy, vile habit that turns people into stupid, drooling, useless piles of wasted genetic material and the fact that every single time someone makes the news by doing something extraordinarily retarded with it, an entire network-- a full-blown retardation conspiracy-- comes out in force to defend the living, breathing demonstration of dysgenic breeding by saying things like "dude, harsh" and "wtf its only pot" makes me wish that we'd never stopped spraying every piece of arable land in South America with paraquat on a regular basis.
That said, I vote for legalization. If someone is going to profit from the colossal uselessness of a sizable portion of the populace, I'd prefer that it were the American taxpayer instead of terrorist criminal gangs.
It is an individual choice that I have no business in.
There is no logical argument against Pot, and even if it was such a bad thing for people I still believe it aint worse then Cigarets of Alchohol and its a persons right to do as they please with their own bodies.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?