Navy Pride
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GarzaUK said:A victory? I remember on this forum with the Iraqi January elections everyone was hailing the elections has victory, that everything was going to get better from then on - it didn't.
Is this constitution going to change anything? The Shia and the Kurds are set on making Iraq a Federal Republic making the Sunnis even more pissed off, they will fight anyone for the precious oil. My prediction is that Iraq will break up into three parts.
The Shia South will end up as an Islamic Republic - a new ally for Iran, effectively the opposite of what we want to acheive.
The Kurds want their own country, the violence might make them break off sooner seeing their is no hope for Iraq. Turkey - a Nato ally is not going to be happy with that.
The Sunnis and the Kurds will fight over oil rich Kirkuk.
The Bush Administration are always optimistic about Iraq, according to Bush everything is going to plan :roll: . They need a big reality check, because the majority American public are not buying their optimism.
Oh? What do you call it when rival groups within one country kill eachother in mass? Civil war has been going on for awhile, it just hasn't escalated as much as it is likely to in coming days.Navy Pride said:The predictions by the naysayers from the left predicted civil war after the elections in January, this did not happen
Navy Pride said:The predictions by the naysayers from the left predicted civil war after the elections in January, this did not happen, it is no surprise that the same naysayers will predict civil war after this referundum and continue to do so evey step of the way...............
At some pont though will this does not happen they will have to admit they were wrong.........
faminedynasty said:Oh? What do you call it when rival groups within one country kill eachother in mass? Civil war has been going on for awhile, it just hasn't escalated as much as it is likely to in coming days.
Old and wise said:Wait till the civil war starts and then tell me that it was a 'huge victory' for Bush.
Navy Pride said:I call it terrorism by a small group of Bathists, an terrorists from Jordan and Syria in 3 of the provinces in Iraq and the rest of the country is relatively peaceful......You people on the left would love for it to break out in a Civil War but at this point it is nothing close to that.......The problem is the liberal media in this country only promotes the bad things in Iraq not the good things happening in most of the probinces.........
Iriemon said:Good if its just a small group lets pull our troops the hell out of there and the Iraqis can handle it. As long as our troops are there we feed the anti-American sentiment in the country. Kind of how we would feel if some Islamic country invaded and occupied us to give us a "proper" government.
Kandahar said:This outcome is actually worse than outright failure
Stinger said:You guys just can't stand it, you'd rather see failure and all the reprocussions than to see the US win.
Foreign fighters only make up about 10% of the insurgency. The country has essentially been in a low grade civil war for a while now. Hell, Baghdad is not even secure. The fact is, I hope that we do win, but we are a long ways from that.Navy Pride said:I call it terrorism by a small group of Bathists, an terrorists from Jordan and Syria in 3 of the provinces in Iraq and the rest of the country is relatively peaceful......You people on the left would love for it to break out in a Civil War but at this point it is nothing close to that.......The problem is the liberal media in this country only promotes the bad things in Iraq not the good things happening in most of the probinces.........
Stinger said:You guys just can't stand it, you'd rather see failure and all the reprocussions than to see the US win.
SouthernDemocrat said:Foreign fighters only make up about 10% of the insurgency. The country has essentially been in a low grade civil war for a while now. Hell, Baghdad is not even secure. The fact is, I hope that we do win, but we are a long ways from that.
Navy Pride said:Baghdad is not secure but 15 out of the 18 provices in Iraq are
Kandahar said::spin:
So what? 3 of the 18 are NOT secure!
Navy Pride said:Much to your sorrow they will be soon.........Once this new government is up and running the Iraqi people have had enough of this crap and they will take care of the problem........
Kandahar said:You people have been saying that for two and a half years now. How much longer is it going to take? Give me a number of months. And if there's still just as much carnage in Iraq at that time as there is now, would you agree that we should immediately withdraw all of our troops since they are accomplishing nothing?
AK_Conservative said:I believe this is a victory, not total, but a victory for iraq. Though we must reflect back upon our constitution when it was first written. It took years for all the states to finally aggree and have it ratified.
AK_Conservative said:There was much termoil, contridictions, and inadiquit wants from all political sides.
AK_Conservative said:Something like this wont change everything overnight, it takes time for adaptability to occur! So for all you left wing pesimistic fellas, dont react if everything hasnt changed overnight. It takes time.. Please hold back the rhetoric on this! Be grateful for the iraqi people!
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