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A former neighbor of Joe Biden's accuser Tara Reade has come forward to corroborate

Is that the position I have advocated?

I have clearly said that Biden should receive the benefit of doubt until an investigation either clears him or confirms the accusation.

That was not the standard applied to Kavanaugh.

Then what is the problem.
 
Will you support a formal investigation?

Sure .. as would any rapist in history...

An investigation of decades old sexual assault allegations is only coming to one conclusion... period regardless of innocence or guilt..


Sexual assault is he said/she said, unless it is a stranger..

There is not usually conclusive physical evidence in a current date rape case..
Where and the F are they getting evidence for a decades old one?!?!

They ain’t..

Take the most guilty rapist on earth and he will beg for an investigation, because when they can’t find anything they can claim vindication..

Just like Kavanagh.... I am not saying he is guilty, just that there was no evidence to find 30 years later and after the investigation funds exactly what it was always going to, Kavanagh claimed vindication.


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The only problem I see is that some don’t like having their hypocrisy exposed.

The hypocrisy of having one standard applied to all candidates?


Not me
 
Will you support a formal investigation?

For sure!!

Plus she expects us to believe she told her brother and best friend her billionaire boss pushed her up against the wall and penetrated her and their response was “let it go”?!?!


Not “let’s burn that beep”, “he should pay” or even “we are rich!”...

They tell her to let it go?!?

Then she tells her mother, and her mothers response is not to call the police, but to call in to Larry king?!?!


Her original accusation (if memory serves) was sexual harassment in the form of the creepy petting Biden is infamous for..

If we look at everyone’s reactions from the angle of that being the real complaint, it all makes perfect sense..

A brother and best friend might tell her to let the petting go..

The mom might call Larry king if the daughter was fired after a sexual harassment claim..


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The situations are quite similar. The only real difference is one accusation is directed at a then powerful senator and the other was against a high school kid at a time, place and date the accuser couldn’t remember.
No the situations aren't. Presidential candidate vs SC nominee. One occurring during a pandemic, the other not. One faces only the 100 Senators to approve them, the other matches up against the sitting President to have voters approve of one, the other, or (unlikely, but still possible) someone else on the ballot.

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The standard is looking at the evidence being provided, statements given by the accuser, the accused, and witnesses. The mothers call actually works to bring more doubt to her story of sexual assault. The inconsistencies, the story changes, the attitude changes all work against her. There are certainly things against him. The other complaints (although these support her initial allegation far better). The friends that say she told them (although that is in no way a smoking gun, since they weren't witnesses, just provide hearsay, much like Fords husband and therapist).

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I agree...

I keep seeing stories pretending like the Larry king call is proof of the assault, and I see it as exactly the opposite..

Who calls a radio show if their daughter was forcefully penetrated?!?!

That isn’t an action that points to her being told her daughter was raped?!!


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Ok. Let's pick the kavanaugh standard.


So all candidates should get the kavanaugh treatment....agreed?

That is what is happening....

The only difference is there has not been an fbi investigation to clear Biden yet..

Because I’m sure Biden is praying for an fbi investigation as there is not a boat load of evidence the week after a sexual assault, let alone a decade plus..

So guilt or innocence is irrelevant... ain’t but one out come coming from an fbi investigation into decades old sexual assault allegations..

They can’t find anything and the accused claims that as vindication..

PS I am not saying Kavanagh was guilty, just that you could pick the most guilty person ever and the fbi still won’t find anything resembling enough to charge them...

No charges means the accused gets to claim vindication..


A totally fake dog and pony show.


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No the situations aren't. Presidential candidate vs SC nominee. One occurring during a pandemic, the other not. One faces only the 100 Senators to approve them, the other matches up against the sitting President to have voters approve of one, the other, or (unlikely, but still possible) someone else on the ballot.

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What does the coronavirus have to do with this?
 
I agree...

I keep seeing stories pretending like the Larry king call is proof of the assault, and I see it as exactly the opposite..

Who calls a radio show if their daughter was forcefully penetrated?!?!

That isn’t an action that points to her being told her daughter was raped?!!


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It really isn't the calling in so much as the attitude of the mother during that call. There is no way my mother would have been so calm if she was calling to ask what she or I could do about a legitimate sexual assault incident. And to say so calmly that her daughter respected her boss? It is ridiculous. I could see her saying feared him or even saying sarcastically or angrily "respects" him. But that was just calm.

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What does the coronavirus have to do with this?
It takes up a great deal of the news cycle, so if the claim is that there is hypocrisy in how this is being reported on, it would be wrong to not recognize something much more important important is going on now than then.

If the claim is hypocrisy of Democrats in their view of this, that depends solely on the Democrats. Did any of those you claim are hypocrites say women should be believed even if their story is full of holes, has been investigated and found to have little credibility?

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I did? Ford was not a credible witness in the kavanaugh hearing

Oh she was crazy credible on paper...

That doesn’t mean she wasn’t lying.. but it doesn’t get more credible than a professional academic with no criminal history..

You gotta put it in the context of trump begging to be falsely accused by bringing the 3 frauds accusing Clinton of rape to the presidential debate . When even trump repeatedly admitted were lying in the past.. Right after his “P grabbing “ taps dropped...

Few people in history have created a better justification to be falsely accused of rape.. lol

It doesn’t make it right... but it happened.


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It really isn't the calling in so much as the attitude of the mother during that call. There is no way my mother would have been so calm if she was calling to ask what she or I could do about a legitimate sexual assault incident. And to say so calmly that her daughter respected her boss? It is ridiculous. I could see her saying feared him or even saying sarcastically or angrily "respects" him. But that was just calm.

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For sure.. substitute Biden’s infamous petting for her penetration story and everything lines up perfectly.


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It really isn't the calling in so much as the attitude of the mother during that call. There is no way my mother would have been so calm if she was calling to ask what she or I could do about a legitimate sexual assault incident. And to say so calmly that her daughter respected her boss? It is ridiculous. I could see her saying feared him or even saying sarcastically or angrily "respects" him. But that was just calm.

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I did not believe ford either in the Kavanagh case..

A super liberal college professor, right after Trumps “P grabbing tape”,l. Followed by trump bringing the three frauds accusing Bill Clinton of rape to the second debate...

I mean damn..

First he showed the world he is a slime ball who does not take sexual assault seriously. Then he pretends to be a champion of sexual assault victims by backing 3 known frauds on a global stage..

I am not sure there has ever been anyone who created THE PERCEPTION of a better justification to falsely accuse some one of rape in history..


He put a big old fat sign above his head that read “I need to go down at all cost.. falsely accuse me of anything! I deserve it!

I would!”

Lol

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It takes up a great deal of the news cycle, so if the claim is that there is hypocrisy in how this is being reported on, it would be wrong to not recognize something much more important important is going on now than then.

If the claim is hypocrisy of Democrats in their view of this, that depends solely on the Democrats. Did any of those you claim are hypocrites say women should be believed even if their story is full of holes, has been investigated and found to have little credibility?

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Claiming the coronavirus is relevant is a cop-out.


It seems that many partisans now to include Biden believe that women should be believed except in this case.
 
Claiming the coronavirus is relevant is a cop-out.


It seems that many partisans now to include Biden believe that women should be believed except in this case.

I have seen quite a bit of coverage on it.. I watch youtube clips not the actual show, but all I covered it..


and just for the record I do not think they should cover questionable allegations at all.. if charges are not being pressed. Then tough titty..


I hate these decades old unprovable, un-prosecutable sexual assault allegations..


Zero accountability for the accuser or the accused..

Zero justice served....








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Claiming the coronavirus is relevant is a cop-out.


It seems that many partisans now to include Biden believe that women should be believed except in this case.
It is relevant to the percentage of the news cycle dedication.

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This will actually sap Biden's support. Our parties are not ideological churches so much as chambers of commerce for political factions. If your faction is motivated by women's issues, then this harms you politically. If Biden is the nominee, Tara Reade will be raised every time women's issues are on the table.

Biden denies the incident and there is no proof of anything. Trump has over 2 dozen women claiming sexual assault and what is amazing about Biden is that in all his years in politics Tara is the only one. This alone makes her claims dubious. Biden has no history of this behavior and that just does not jive with what we know about abusers of women.
 
Claiming the coronavirus is relevant is a cop-out.


It seems that many partisans now to include Biden believe that women should be believed except in this case.

No one has said should not be believed but the claim needed to be investigated and it was. The NYT and AP did investigate both found Tara's claim to be unsubstantiated and likely false.
 
No one has said should not be believed but the claim needed to be investigated and it was. The NYT and AP did investigate both found Tara's claim to be unsubstantiated and likely false.

LAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFriot-. Hey fox news investigated Trump's accusers and found nothing!!!
#Dipstick
 
LAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFriot-. Hey fox news investigated Trump's accusers and found nothing!!!
#Dipstick

Fox investigated hitler and found him to be a great guy
 
No one has said should not be believed but the claim needed to be investigated and it was. The NYT and AP did investigate both found Tara's claim to be unsubstantiated and likely false.

Biden actually said that. The NYT has revised their story on this.
 
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