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A condition for immigration

Immigrants already get welfare benefits.

How much do you know about all this?

Immigrants =/= illegal immigrants. The Biden plan is essentially to transform illegal immigrants into immigrants.
 
Immigrants =/= illegal immigrants. The Biden plan is essentially to transform illegal immigrants into immigrants.
And then they will be immigrants.

People waiting for acceptance into our country, are not illegal either.
 
Attaining asylum status requires documentation - why are you struggling with that?

So you no longer like loopholes? Except for your own taxes?
 

Because I don't get off on dehumanizing people. Trump is gone. I'll use the term "undocumented." Most of them are waiting for documentation.

That's the part that the right-wing seems to miss. Most of these people applied for their green card, but currently on expired visas. If they left the country, their application would go to the bottom of the pile again.
 

Because I don't get off on dehumanizing people. Trump is gone. I'll use the term "undocumented." Most of them are waiting for documentation.


Because I don't get off on dehumanizing people

It's worse out here than I thought


I'll use the term "undocumented."

Of course you will. You will water it down at all costs

Most of them are waiting for documentation.

Yes, like AMNESTY?(LOL)
 
And then they will be immigrants.

People waiting for acceptance into our country, are not illegal either.

Yes, that includes the estimated 11 million of them waiting fro AMNESTY?(LOL)
 
Yes, like AMNESTY?(LOL)

No. That's not what Gingle Ale was saying. A lot of the illegal immigrants in the U.S today came here on temporary visas and applied for green card status while living in the U.S. They did not go back to their "mother country" because it would require them to restart their application again.

Biden is proposing what has already been proposed in the past -- illegals have to go through a pathway program. They can only become citizens or green card holders, IF they pass all the steps and pay restitution.
 
No. That's not what Gingle Ale was saying. A lot of the illegal immigrants in the U.S today came here on temporary visas and applied for green card status while living in the U.S. They did not go back to their "mother country" because it would require them to restart their application again.

Biden is proposing what has already been proposed in the past -- illegals have to go through a pathway program. They can only become citizens or green card holders, IF they pass all the steps and pay restitution.

A lot of the illegal immigrants in the U.S today came here on temporary visas and applied for green card status while living in the U.S.

And ... many more of them are still just illegal(wink)

That's not what Gingle Ale was saying.


That is what 'm saying
 
And ... many more of them are still just illegal(wink)

That is what 'm saying

Just for the record. My view on immigration is relatively moderate and possibly right-leaning. I do not believe the U.S should be the welfare capital of the world and has no obligation to take everybody who applied for a visa or green card. We have every right to determine who should or shouldn't be in America. Immigrants who do not respect our laws, shouldn't be given special treatment. I am sympathetic to the Dreamers. If you were forced to come here as a child or minor, you should be given a pathway program.

But at the same time, I do believe in the concept of compromise and finding the middle-ground. The Biden proposal, which is unlikely to pass, comes with updating our border enforcement policies and addresses why people are flocking from Central America to the U.S. Those two aspects are more important to me.
 
Just for the record. My view on immigration is relatively moderate and possibly right-leaning. I do not believe the U.S should be the welfare capital of the world and has no obligation to take everybody who applied for a visa or green card. We have every right to determine who should or shouldn't be in America. Immigrants who do not respect our laws, shouldn't be given special treatment. I am sympathetic to the Dreamers. If you were forced to come here as a child or minor, you should be given a pathway program.

But at the same time, I do believe in the concept of compromise and finding the middle-ground. The Biden proposal, which is unlikely to pass, comes with updating our border enforcement policies and addresses why people are flocking from Central America to the U.S. Those two aspects are more important to me.


I am sympathetic to the Dreamers.

Illegal is still illegal(even emotion)
But at the same time, I do believe in the concept of compromise and finding the middle-ground.

It's the middle way that has cursed our country(today's problems)
 
A good compromise would be to export a liberal that hates this country and capitalism to a socialist country of their choosing for every alien let into this country.
 
It's worse out here than I thought




Of course you will. You will water it down at all costs



Yes, like AMNESTY?(LOL)
It's better out here to some people.
Amnesty is always on the table. Bush gave Amnesty as well. Sometimes, we give Amnesty.
 
Yes, that includes the estimated 11 million of them waiting fro AMNESTY?(LOL)
Since we have given it in the past, and will likely do it in the future, then a few of them are hoping we do and I don't logically know why they wouldn't.

I might add, you seem chipper about it.
 
Illegal is still illegal(even emotion)

It's the middle way that has cursed our country(today's problems)

I am sympathetic, but they still broke the law and shouldn't get an easy pass.

I don't think compromise has cursed our nation. The constitution itself was created with the middleway mentality. Ditto for civil rights acts.
 
I am sympathetic, but they still broke the law and shouldn't get an easy pass.

I don't think compromise has cursed our nation. The constitution itself was created with the middleway mentality. Ditto for civil rights acts.


It's what we're compromising on
 
Since we have given it in the past, and will likely do it in the future, then a few of them are hoping we do and I don't logically know why they wouldn't.

I might add, you seem chipper about it.

Since we have given it in the past,

And we don't learn from HISTORY(wink)

I mean, I do
 
It's better out here to some people.
Amnesty is always on the table. Bush gave Amnesty as well. Sometimes, we give Amnesty.

Yes, because of VAIN politicians voted in by a vain citizenry!

You keep up the good work now

What Amnesty did Bush do?
 
Biden wants to dump millions of criminal invaders into this country. There needs to be a trigger and condition for immigration.

The US should absolutely bar any immigration UNLESS the unemployment figure is 2% or below.


not going to happen while the dems are in power. they want their 20 million or so new votes.
 
That would be an economic disater. A national unemployment rate does NOT reflect the needs in the jobs market. I believe that a good portion, not all, of immigrants should be merited based and targeted. There are certain industries that are screaming for certain skills and there are simply not the supply to me those demands.


what's going to be an economic disaster is overburdening our social systems with 20 million new people.
 
We need to have an easier pathway, and get them legal. That way immigrants aren't illegal. They need us, we need them, it's a win win.


we don't need them in a recession with inflation coming and unemployment at it's highest levels in a long time.
 
what's going to be an economic disaster is overburdening our social systems with 20 million new people.

As it stands now its going bankrupt

The buffoon/vain politicians will only increase the eligibility age

A.....gain......
 
not going to happen while the dems are in power. they want their 20 million or so new votes.

Its happening already

Did you notice that AZ and Georgia went Blue?

Colorado and Virginia before that?
 
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