A Christian (not that that matters) Biologist Releases Groundbreaking Discovery

[Galactic Spin]

Creationists are not saying this: https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2012.11555

Oh look, an article you never read that doesn't support a word you have said.

 

[lwf]

And you have NO BIAS? Lacking what support? The evidence is piling up. This biologist is not some simpleton. Watch the video --- the numbers do not lie. Evolutionists are people too, and people have and continue to make mistakes. Making mistakes is human; however, being in total denial is evil at work.

This is confirmation bias. The rational thing for a layman to do is to trust the experts. When you have a large number of experts and when not all of them agree with each other, the logical thing to do is to trust the consensus. Not because the consensus is infallible, but because historically the consensus is correct somewhere in the neighborhood of 99.9% of the time.

What you are doing is trusting statistical outliers over the consensus. Outliers are historically correct somewhere in the neighborhood of 0.1% of the time. This is bad data. It isn't a logical or scientific proof that you are wrong, but by the law of averages it is astronomically unlikely that you are correct because your belief is based on a statistical anomaly and a foregone conclusion rather than actual data. Any rational person reading this thread would laugh at the ridiculousness of that video, because almost every evolutionary scientist on the planet ascribes to a completely different theory of how human evolution works than this one outlying scientist does. Again, that doesn't prove he's wrong. But the odds of him being right are miniscule.

 

[Tigerace117]

Because he isn't resting his faith upon the scientific establishment to do the thinking for him. He is a rebel.

He is a blatant liar. Wailing “I am a rebel” does not replace hard evidence. That’s not how science works.

 

[ataraxia]

Because he isn't resting his faith upon the scientific establishment to do the thinking for him. He is a rebel.

Hmmm....

 

[Captain Adverse]

Creationists are not saying this: https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2012.11555

(Sigh) All this study suggests is that DNA may not last as long as thought.

That doesn't mean that humans appeared 6,000 years ago.

There are other ways to determine age.

A Journey to the Oldest Cave Paintings in the World

The discovery in a remote part of Indonesia has scholars rethinking the origins of art—and of humanity

www.smithsonianmag.com

 

[LittleNipper]

This is confirmation bias. The rational thing for a layman to do is to trust the experts. When you have a large number of experts and when not all of them agree with each other, the logical thing to do is to trust the consensus. Not because the consensus is infallible, but because historically the consensus is correct somewhere in the neighborhood of 99.9% of the time.

What you are doing is trusting statistical outliers over the consensus. Outliers are historically correct somewhere in the neighborhood of 0.1% of the time. This is bad data. It isn't a logical or scientific proof that you are wrong, but by the law of averages it is astronomically unlikely that you are correct because your belief is based on a statistical anomaly and a foregone conclusion rather than actual data. Any rational person reading this thread would laugh at the ridiculousness of that video, because almost every evolutionary scientist on the planet ascribes to a completely different theory of how human evolution works than this one outlying scientist does. Again, that doesn't prove he's wrong. But the odds of him being right are miniscule.

The rational thing to do is TRUST IN THE LORD! I Corinthians 1:27

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

 

[LittleNipper]

(Sigh) All this study suggests is that DNA may not last as long as thought.

That doesn't mean that humans appeared 6,000 years ago.

There are other ways to determine age.

A Journey to the Oldest Cave Paintings in the World

The discovery in a remote part of Indonesia has scholars rethinking the origins of art—and of humanity

www.smithsonianmag.com

But did you ever consider the notion that if the DNA only lasts maybe 5000 years under extraordinary circumstances that what evolutionists are doing is using the seeming age of the surrounding mineral, rock, strata, etc., to date the fossils ------ when in fact the DNA when discovered is actually revealing that all fossils are actually about same age and date to THE FLOOD! My dad once told me when I was a little kid, that if I could tell him how old the Universe appeared, he could tell me how old GOD looked. He said it was all an illustration of ETERNITY! I feel that's pretty good for a layman.

 

[LittleNipper]

He is a blatant liar. Wailing “I am a rebel” does not replace hard evidence. That’s not how science works.

You don't have hard evidence! You don't even demonstrate honest science. Just a bunch of secular want-to-bees who are trying their best to control science and make themselves appear knowledgeable.

 

[Tigerace117]

You don't have hard evidence! You don't even demonstrate honest science. Just a bunch of secular want-to-bees who are trying their best to control science and make themselves appear knowledgeable.

Congrats, you’ve got it completely backwards. It’s those claiming that the earth is only a few thousand years old who don’t possess either hard science or honesty. You being triggered because nobody intelligent takes this guy’s blatant lies seriously does not change the facts.

 

[LittleNipper]

Congrats, you’ve got it completely backwards. It’s those claiming that the earth is only a few thousand years old who don’t possess either hard science or honesty. You being triggered because nobody intelligent takes this guy’s blatant lies seriously does not change the facts.

They (Christians and Creationist) have GOD's revelation. YOU deny CHRIST and HIS FATHER ----- and YOU are driving the HOLY SPIRIT away from YOUR heart's door. That's a FACT.

 

[Arlette]

According to Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson (who has been testing male Y Chromosome DNA) demonstrates fast consistent human mutation rates of about 3% percent per generation which absolutely undermines long dates of evolution. And reveals young earth timelines --- supporting Geneses 10. There exists an absolute mathematical prediction, fulfillment connection that confirms this in-depth scientific research. This doctor is seeking researchers to further this investigation.

Another one of your poor attempts to use science to prove the Bible accurate.

 

[Tigerace117]

They (Christians and Creationist) have GOD's revelation. YOU deny CHRIST and HIS FATHER ----- and YOU are driving the HOLY SPIRIT away from YOUR heart's door. That's a FACT.

Claiming something clearly untrue is “revelation” is patently ridiculous. Funnily enough, there are tens of millions of Christians who don’t believe in something as silly as the earth being only a few thousand years old.

 

[Arlette]

They (Christians and Creationist) have GOD's revelation. YOU deny CHRIST and HIS FATHER ----- and YOU are driving the HOLY SPIRIT away from YOUR heart's door. That's a FACT.

You have God's revelation but you come here repeatedly with "scientific" claims that are easily debunked, trying to witness. Either you are a glutton for ridicule or maybe there is just an educational barrier.

 

[Arlette]

You have God's revelation but you come here repeatedly with "scientific" claims that are easily debunked, trying to witness. Either you are a glutton for ridicule or maybe there is just an educational barrier.

Anyways, the subject seems to be your hobby and you may be interested in this:
Tests on stones found at the ruins of Oxkintok in Mexico and other finds on the peninsula appear to be crushed by large body of water like a great flood. A great flood or tsunami pulverized those ancient settlements and then settled on the area for a long time.

 

[LittleNipper]

Congrats, you’ve got it completely backwards. It’s those claiming that the earth is only a few thousand years old who don’t possess either hard science or honesty. You being triggered because nobody intelligent takes this guy’s blatant lies seriously does not change the facts.

But this gentleman isn't lying. YOU call him a liar solely because he offends YOUR views. I most certainly never call evolutionists liars, even though their specific regard of NATURE as self directed is frankly abhorrent to me. I feel that they are gravely missing the mark and excluding GOD to the detriment of understanding TRUTH. To the contrary, this biologist has a seeming radical way of supporting what he believes ------ he does the math, and everything lines up to a far different standard than it would to someone insistent on eliminating divinely revealed and inspired revelation. Essentially, he does't assume natural selection for the sake of natural selection. In fact, I don't see this biologist assuming GOD; however, he doesn't work around HIM either. And this alone is what you find annoying and offensive. Your bias arrogance is most obvious.

What has technically occurred is that there are more and more anomalies being discovered that simply do not fit into the evolutionist's mold. When I was in school, the standard scientific understanding was that civilization was only about 4-5 thousand years old. However, more and more is being revealed deeper in the strata and under the oceans and during mining operations which while fitting data consistent with those understanding the magnitude of THE FLOOD dynamics, certainly is screwing up any human/ape derivative unless one pushes the time of intelligent human development further and further into the past. And this is exactly what evolutionists are doing; however, they are now faced with DNA that is placing a noose around their necks and this is restricting their imagination to the point that they themselves willingly distort evidence to suit evolution assumptions.

 

[Tigerace117]

But this gentleman isn't lying. YOU call him a liar solely because he offends YOUR views. I most certainly never call evolutionists liars, even though their specific regard of NATURE as self directed is frankly abhorrent to me. I feel that they are gravely missing the mark and excluding GOD to the detriment of understanding TRUTH. To the contrary, this biologist has a seeming radical way of supporting what he believes ------ he does the math, and everything lines up to a far different standard than it would to someone insistent on eliminating divinely revealed and inspired revelation. Essentially, he does't assume natural selection for the sake of natural selection. In fact, I don't see this biologist assuming GOD; however, he doesn't work around HIM either. And this alone is what you find annoying and offensive. Your bias arrogance is most obvious.

What has technically occurred is that there are more and more anomalies being discovered that simply do not fit into the evolutionist's mold. When I was in school, the standard scientific understanding was that civilization was only about 4-5 thousand years old. However, more and more is being revealed deeper in the strata and under the oceans and during mining operations which while fitting data consistent with those understanding the magnitude of THE FLOOD dynamics, certainly is screwing up any human/ape derivative unless one pushes the time of intelligent human development further and further into the past. And this is exactly what evolutionists are doing; however, they are now faced with DNA that is placing a noose around their necks and this is restricting their imagination to the point that they themselves willingly distort evidence to suit evolution assumptions.

Except for the fact that he very clearly is lying, because there is precisely zero evidence to support the claim that the earth is only a few thousand years old.

You finding reality “abhorrent” because it shows that a literal interpretation of the Bible is clearly untrue can not change the facts. Guess what? When the truth and what you claim about God conflict, then the truth takes priority, no matter how “left out” you fantasize that makes God.

In other words, he starts from the assumption that the earth is only a few thousand years old and tries to stretch the data to fit that narrative. Yeah, that’s called lying.



Wailing “back in my day, people believed all sorts of nonsense” is not much of an argument.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

According to Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson (who has been testing male Y Chromosome DNA) demonstrates fast consistent human mutation rates of about 3% percent per generation which absolutely undermines long dates of evolution. And reveals young earth timelines --- supporting Geneses 10. There exists an absolute mathematical prediction, fulfillment connection that confirms this in-depth scientific research. This doctor is seeking researchers to further this investigation.

You will notice that instead of publishing his “research” in a peer reviewed journal, he published a book to try to make some money off of convincing people like you.

 

[LittleNipper]

Except for the fact that he very clearly is lying, because there is precisely zero evidence to support the claim that the earth is only a few thousand years old.

You finding reality “abhorrent” because it shows that a literal interpretation of the Bible is clearly untrue can not change the facts. Guess what? When the truth and what you claim about God conflict, then the truth takes priority, no matter how “left out” you fantasize that makes God.

In other words, he starts from the assumption that the earth is only a few thousand years old and tries to stretch the data to fit that narrative. Yeah, that’s called lying.



Wailing “back in my day, people believed all sorts of nonsense” is not much of an argument.

And you have not evidence that GOD didn't create the entire UNIVERSE and place everything where HE so desired in 6 days. NOR can you prove that all the elements and minerals and other matter was not created by GOD at HIS command to HIS specifications in a day or two. To say this is impossible is a lie. YOU would not know because one: YOU ARE NOT GOD, and two: YOU WERE NOT THERE TO WATCH.

DNA only lasts a very short time (maybe thousands if that, not millions) and that alone counters all who would say otherwise for the sake of dinosaur blood cell remains otherwise found in unfossilized dinosaur bone of what evolutionists claim to be exorbitant ages.

 

[Tigerace117]

And you have not evidence that GOD didn't create the entire UNIVERSE and place everything where HE so desired in 6 days. NOR can you prove that all the elements and minerals and other matter was not created by GOD at HIS command to HIS specifications in a day or two. To say this is impossible is a lie. YOU would not know because one: YOU ARE NOT GOD, and two: YOU WERE NOT THERE TO WATCH.

DNA only lasts a very short time (maybe thousands if that, not millions) and that alone counters all who would say otherwise for the sake of dinosaur blood cell remains otherwise found in unfossilized dinosaur bone of what evolutionists claim to be exorbitant ages.

Other than the fact that the only evidence to support those claims is “we say so, so there!” Sorry, that’s not science.

That’s religion, and while there’s rightfully nothing preventing scientists from being religious, when they start lying to try and support an interpretation of their religion not even most Christians share then it deserves to be called out.

 

[LittleNipper]

Other than the fact that the only evidence to support those claims is “we say so, so there!” Sorry, that’s not science.

The only evidence to support MACRO EVOLUTION is “we (of the evolutionist community) say so, so there!”

That’s religion, and while there’s rightfully nothing preventing scientists from being religious, when they start lying to try and support an interpretation of their religion not even most Christians share then it deserves to be called out.

The is nothing wrong with being a Christian and seeking observable FACTS which counter what is presently being sponsored as undeniable fact by evolutionists who unashamedly have their own ax to grind.

 

[LittleNipper]

You will notice that instead of publishing his “research” in a peer reviewed journal, he published a book to try to make some money off of convincing people like you.

Unfortunately, peer review journals are controlled by evolutionists who are not seeking fact, or to be enlightened, but confirmation of their own perspective to the exclusion of nearly all other investigations unless worded in such a way to eliminate confrontation to the contrary.

 

[Gordy327]

Clearly, you are demonstrating your bias.

Clearly you are projecting yours and do not know the difference between belief and theory.

So, evolutionists who promote atheism claim to prove On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life.

What "atheist claim" do scientist promote?

And you have NO BIAS?

No, of course not.

Lacking what support?

Objective, empirical evidence of course.

The evidence is piling up.

What "evidence?" Has it been presented for independent verification and peer review?

This biologist is not some simpleton.

He's with AoG and clearly has a religious bias.

Making mistakes is human; however, being in total denial is evil at work.

So every scientist who supports or accepts evolution and/or denies creationism is doing evil according to you?

 

[Gordy327]

Unfortunately, peer review journals are controlled by evolutionists who are not seeking fact, or to be enlightened, but confirmation of their own perspective to the exclusion of nearly all other investigations unless worded in such a way to eliminate confrontation to the contrary.

So it's just a big conspiracy, eh?

The only evidence to support MACRO EVOLUTION is “we (of the evolutionist community) say so, so there!”

Keep demonstrating your ignorance of evolution for all to see.

The is nothing wrong with being a Christian and seeking observable FACTS which counter what is presently being sponsored as undeniable fact by evolutionists who unashamedly have their own ax to grind.

The problem is, theists tend to twist the "facts" (or make them up) to support a theistic conclusion. Real science does not operate that way.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Unfortunately, peer review journals are controlled by evolutionists who are not seeking fact, or to be enlightened, but confirmation of their own perspective to the exclusion of nearly all other investigations unless worded in such a way to eliminate confrontation to the contrary.

Are you qualified to review his work?

 

[southwest88]

They (Christians and Creationist) have GOD's revelation. YOU deny CHRIST and HIS FATHER ----- and YOU are driving the HOLY SPIRIT away from YOUR heart's door. That's a FACT.

Nah, those are theological assumptions. They are not facts like the motions of the stars & planets, or any other observable, measurable facts.