58% for gay marriage. 36% against. [W: 572]

[James D Hill]

That being the case then 58% of the American people is an inflated number which you know to be true. I only hope that someday I can be half as smart as you think you are but I really don't know if I have the time since I am 66 and only spent 35 years in the busines world, certainly not enough to overcome your experience and expertise

I am 53 and remember when rednecks ran this country on social issues and even though I wish you good health my friend your kind is dieing out and the young are going to take over and they are liberals on social issues and with the immagrants even Texas and AZ could become a blue state in yours and my lifetime. You are most certanly going to see legalized marijuana and gay marriage. Immagration reform is going to happen also in spite of the right wings screaming. Why are those bad things my friend? Isn't freedom more important that legislating morality. Let God judge their morality and let freedom ring for everybody. "judge not or you will be judged" seems to be a verse that most social conservastives ignore.

 

[Conservative]

I am 53 and remember when rednecks ran this country on social issues and even though I wish you good health my friend your kind is dieing out and the young are going to take over and they are liberals on social issues and with the immagrants even Texas and AZ could become a blue state in yours and my lifetime. You are most certanly going to see legalized marijuana and gay marriage. Immagration reform is going to happen also in spite of the right wings screaming. Why are those bad things my friend? Isn't freedom more important that legislating morality. Let God judge their morality and let freedom ring for everybody. "judge not or you will be judged" seems to be a verse that most social conservastives ignore.

I was born in Seattle and couldn't be more disappointed in your attitude and condescending tone. This country wasn't built on your elitism but rather self reliance, personal responsibility, and neighbor helping neighbor. It is a nation of laws created by the people for the benefit of the people. You don't like the laws, you change them through the legislative process not the courts. I have to believe this is an act on your part because I know of no one your age with this kind of rhetoric and attitude

 

[OscarB63]

I am 53 and remember when rednecks ran this country on social issues .

really? when was this? I'm 50 and I don't remember that. the last time the "rednecks" ran the country on social issues was pre WWII

 

[James D Hill]

really? when was this? I'm 50 and I don't remember that. the last time the "rednecks" ran the country on social issues was pre WWII

Don't be a rockhead my friend. Reagans war on drugs,The patriot act,state level anti abortion laws,state and fedral anti gay right legislation and redneck anti immagration laws in AZ and Texas. At the state level the right is acting like a bunch of morons and yes rednecks.

 

[James D Hill]

I was born in Seattle and couldn't be more disappointed in your attitude and condescending tone. This country wasn't built on your elitism but rather self reliance, personal responsibility, and neighbor helping neighbor. It is a nation of laws created by the people for the benefit of the people. You don't like the laws, you change them through the legislative process not the courts. I have to believe this is an act on your part because I know of no one your age with this kind of rhetoric and attitude

So you moved to the flatlands. Not seeing Mt Rainier all the time would make me sad. Liberals are for nieghbor helping nieghbor. They are for helping the poor and making a level playing field. Liberals do not think you should be judged because you do not fit into the evangelical idea of morality. Liberals have brought many good things and yes a few bad things but they have never been regressive or backward thinking. Liberals have always defended the down and out just like good christians should without all the Jesud freak selfrightous BS that the social conservatives spew.

 

[Redress]

You are good at making wild claims and passing them off as fact. If 58% of Americans favor gay marriage then you won't have any problem getting that passed in all states so no need for the courts. Since you believe so much in polls which come from the American people I have to wonder why you have such little faith in the American people and have to have courts overturn their will.

You need to take a civics course and learn about things live uneven distribution, and what the constitution says and means.

 

[Redress]

I was born in Seattle and couldn't be more disappointed in your attitude and condescending tone. This country wasn't built on your elitism but rather self reliance, personal responsibility, and neighbor helping neighbor. It is a nation of laws created by the people for the benefit of the people. You don't like the laws, you change them through the legislative process not the courts. I have to believe this is an act on your part because I know of no one your age with this kind of rhetoric and attitude

You also apparently need to take a history course, learning about the reasons behind and the activities of the judicial branch of government.

 

[Conservative]

So you moved to the flatlands. Not seeing Mt Rainier all the time would make me sad. Liberals are for nieghbor helping nieghbor. They are for helping the poor and making a level playing field. Liberals do not think you should be judged because you do not fit into the evangelical idea of morality. Liberals have brought many good things and yes a few bad things but they have never been regressive or backward thinking. Liberals have always defended the down and out just like good christians should without all the Jesud freak selfrightous BS that the social conservatives spew.

Lived in a home with Mt. Rainier out my back window and Lake Washington out my front. Sorry but liberals have no problem spending someone else's money all in the name of compassion and never getting any compassionate results just asking for more spending. Some liberals do indeed care about the down and out but the elite don't, all they care about is keeping their power by keeping people dependent and they do a good job of that. Over 100 million Americans are on some form of taxpayer assistance and that is a travisty. The liberals today, many of them, want a nanny state and think only with their heart, it is never their fault for poor choices or personal mistakes. That is why we have a 17 trillion dollar debt today, entitlement spending out of control.

 

[Donc]

Lived in a home with Mt. Rainier out my back window and Lake Washington out my front. Sorry but liberals have no problem spending someone else's money all in the name of compassion and never getting any compassionate results just asking for more spending. Some liberals do indeed care about the down and out but the elite don't, all they care about is keeping their power by keeping people dependent and they do a good job of that. Over 100 million Americans are on some form of taxpayer assistance and that is a travisty. The liberals today, many of them, want a nanny state and think only with their heart, it is never their fault for poor choices or personal mistakes. That is why we have a 17 trillion dollar debt today, entitlement spending out of control.

How does a $17 trillion dollar debt effect the following stats? "58% for gay marriage. 36% against. ":2wave:

 

[James D Hill]

Lived in a home with Mt. Rainier out my back window and Lake Washington out my front. Sorry but liberals have no problem spending someone else's money all in the name of compassion and never getting any compassionate results just asking for more spending. Some liberals do indeed care about the down and out but the elite don't, all they care about is keeping their power by keeping people dependent and they do a good job of that. Over 100 million Americans are on some form of taxpayer assistance and that is a travisty. The liberals today, many of them, want a nanny state and think only with their heart, it is never their fault for poor choices or personal mistakes. That is why we have a 17 trillion dollar debt today, entitlement spending out of control.

And the conservative elite care about the down and out? I seem to remember a 47% statement that cost one Mitt Romney the election. Who knows the truth my friend but the left has won the propaganda war when it comes to caring for the poor true or not. So did you work for Boeing or Microsoft? I live in the Puyllup and Sumner area in a town called Bonney lake and in these more rural areas their are plenty of conservatives my brother included but the citys of Seattle,Tacoma and Evertt carry the state just like in OR and Cal thus the left coast.

 

[James D Hill]

The right wing is losing ground in this issue every day. Even members of the GOP are starting to cave and the supreme court is about to overthrow DOMA everywhere the rednecks has voted it in. The right has lost on this issue just like they are on marijuana laws. How many more loser issues is the right wing going to stand for? Get into the 21st cantury my right wing friends.

If the right wing had pushed for civil unions then they would not look so bad on this issue but they whereeven against those. They allowed their hatred of gays to cloud their judgment and now the right is looking like a bunch of intolerant Jusus freaks.

 

[OscarB63]

If the right wing had pushed for civil unions then they would not look so bad on this issue but they whereeven against those. They allowed their hatred of gays to cloud their judgment and now the right is looking like a bunch of intolerant Jusus freaks.

sad when you are so desperate to keep your pet issue going that you resort to replying to your own posts. we get it dude, you are a flaming partisan hack who hates anyone who is to the right of Bill Maher

 

[James D Hill]

sad when you are so desperate to keep your pet issue going that you resort to replying to your own posts. we get it dude, you are a flaming partisan hack who hates anyone who is to the right of Bill Maher

I love Bill Maher. He tears right wingers new buttholes on a regular basis.I thought you right wingers where for freedom. I guess that is another right wing lie.

 

[James D Hill]

sad when you are so desperate to keep your pet issue going that you resort to replying to your own posts. we get it dude, you are a flaming partisan hack who hates anyone who is to the right of Bill Maher

Dude. The right wing is losing on this issue. That is priceless my friend and I am not going to let it die just like your side won't let the Jesus freaks views die like should.

 

[OscarB63]

Dude. The right wing is losing on this issue. That is priceless my friend and I am not going to let it die just like your side won't let the Jesus freaks views die like should.

dude, the funny thing is...you are arguing with yourself and still losing. :laughat: :failpail:

 

[James D Hill]

dude, the funny thing is...you are arguing with yourself and still losing. :laughat: :failpail:

The right wing is losing on every front. The war is lost. The nation has swung to the left on social issues and to the middle on fiscal issues and not even you can deny that my right wing friend. The war is lost and the left has won.

 

[OscarB63]

The right wing is losing on every front. The war is lost. The nation has swung to the left on social issues and to the middle on fiscal issues and not even you can deny that my right wing friend. The war is lost and the left has won.

be sure to celebrate your victory with some govt cheese. :laughat:

 

[James D Hill]

be sure to celebrate your victory with some govt cheese. :laughat:

So tell me my friend. Why do you hate gays so bad. Is it because some Jesus freak in Sunday school told you so? If the GOP was for freedom then they would be for gay marriage and legalized marijuana but the right wing is so much for tradition and the status quo they are always on the wrong side of any freedom issue. They would rather look like uncompromising rednecks than do what is right. Last time I checked gays where humans too and deserve every right hetrosexuals have.

 

[OscarB63]

So tell me my friend. Why do you hate gays so bad. Is it because some Jesus freak in Sunday school told you so? If the GOP was for freedom then they would be for gay marriage and legalized marijuana but the right wing is so much for tradition and the status quo they are always on the wrong side of any freedom issue. They would rather look like uncompromising rednecks than do what is right. Last time I checked gays where humans too and deserve every right hetrosexuals have.

strawman much? I'll make a $50 dollar donation in your name if you can show any proof that I "hate gays"

and what is your fixation with linking gay rights and pot use? do you like to smoke both blunts and poles?

 

[James D Hill]

strawman much? I'll make a $50 dollar donation in your name if you can show any proof that I "hate gays"

and what is your fixation with linking gay rights and pot use? do you like to smoke both blunts and poles?

Because in both issues good and bad people are being demonized because they do not have sex in the prefered way or choose the right intoxicant. I say it is nobodies business what goes on in your own bedroom or what gives you a buzz when you watch monday night football. It is no skin off right wingers butts if gays get married other that the fact it changes tradition which ticks off conservatives to no end every time. Let freedom ring and stop being against people fighting for their civil liberties. If you don't like something don't engage it is but don't stand in the way of others getting even treatment.