56% disapprove of Trump's economy.

[HenryChinaski]

Not everyone has money invested in the stock market.

More than 71.5 million Americans have a 401(K) which are dependent on the Stock Market.

 

[trouble13]

Neither Obama nor Biden went on these crazy tariff threats that caused markets to be worried about the instability created.


Trump didn't make it better.
GDP started slipping in 2019.
Trump's best year GDP was the same as Obama's.


Economy falls on the President.
And when a crisis happened, he said "I take no responsibility".


He did what he thought was best to help ebb the tide of economic turbulence.


As long as Trump keeps threatening tariff wars and Musk is laying off thousands of people, the economy will remain in flux.
Maybe another round of tax cuts for the rich and corporations will help his buddies like Musk and Bezos.

You can continue to be as pessimistic as you like but I am optimistic about what I see

 

[upsideguy]

It was an MNSBC Katy-kur watch poll according to the link.

Meanwhile, heading in the right direction takes an investment.

"The national NBC News poll shows Trump's approval rating at 47% with more registered voters seeing the US as heading in the right direction than at any point since early 2004. "

NBC news is NOT Katy Tur. NBC news is not MSNBC, they are different brands. NBC is a real news organization, MSNBC is editorial content.

That all said, think about it for a minute... do you actually think tariffs, the threat of tariffs, the cancellation of tariffs, the threat of tariffs, is popular? Do you think most people like that the market is slipping and the inflation appears to be upticking and consumer confidence is down? Get in touch with your country..... People are currently confident about the near-term economic outlook, which Trump is going to get the blame for.....

If you are surprised by this poll, its because you are not looking at this objectively...

 

[snakestretcher]

You can continue to be as pessimistic as you like but I am optimistic about what I see

Like rising grocery, energy and fuel prices, tariffs that will cost you 25% and up on any imports you buy-(that would be most things)? Oh and inflation is set to rise, with economists warning that there may be a recession in store or you. Yes, with all that good news I can understand why you're so optimistic...

https://www.bankrate.com/insurance/homeowners-insurance/cost-of-living-statistics/#cost-of-living-statistics-2025

 

[Fletch]

Like rising grocery, energy and fuel prices, tariffs that will cost you 25% and up on any imports you buy-(that would be most things)? Oh and inflation is set to rise, with economists warning that there may be a recession in store or you. Yes, with all that good news I can understand why you're so optimistic...

https://www.bankrate.com/insurance/homeowners-insurance/cost-of-living-statistics/#cost-of-living-statistics-2025

Surely you realize that those statistics represent the Biden year of 2024, right?

 

[ncguy]

You can continue to be as pessimistic as you like but I am optimistic about what I see

you are optimistic about a tanking stock market, softening labor market, plummeting confidence, slipping retail sales? lol.
what drugs are you on?

 

[poweRob]

Which is still below what it should be. The actual pain from his tariffs haven't even kicked in yet. What a disaster.

ttps://www.msnbc.com/katy-tur/watch/poll-shows-56-disapprove-of-trump-s-handling-of-economy-amid-tariffs-recession-fears-234235973819

Wait until the retaliatory tariffs start taking effect.

 

[Fletch]

More than 71.5 million Americans have a 401(K) which are dependent on the Stock Market.

Thats about 1/4 of all Americans. That said, the recent market volitivity can clearly be layed at Trumps feet due to uncertainty about his tariffs. But that said, the market is roughly where it was when he won the election in November.

 

[Fletch]

you are optimistic about a tanking stock market, softening labor market, plummeting confidence, slipping retail sales? lol.
what drugs are you on?

The market isnt tanking, the labor market is fine and retail sales are growing. You are desperate for bad economic news but its not out there.

 

[Fearandloathing]

It was an MNSBC Katy-kur watch poll according to the link.

Meanwhile, heading in the right direction takes an investment.

"The national NBC News poll shows Trump's approval rating at 47% with more registered voters seeing the US as heading in the right direction than at any point since early 2004. "

I don't believe you any more now than I did a year ago.

47% is NOT a win, but a travesty.

And the tariff counter measures have barely made an impact yet.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Not everyone has money invested in the stock market.

Did you miss the questions in his post or just ignore them?

Here they are again.

"why are cowardly republicans refusing to have town halls anymore since our "stable genius" started tanking the stock market?
why is the stock market tanking?"

 

[ncguy]

The market isnt tanking, the labor market is fine and retail sales are growing. You are desperate for bad economic news but its not out there.

10% decline in a few weeks is a tank. denial is not just a river in egypt.

retail sales in the past two months is negative. denial is not just a river in egypt.

Amid much uncertainty, the job market is clearly softening. denial is not just a river in egypt.​

Amid much uncertainty, the job market is clearly softening

Private-sector hiring slowed down in February and small businesses cut jobs. Plus, new unemployment claims were up last week.

www.marketplace.org

you are desperate to defend bad economic news as somehow being good.

 

[EnchantedMuggle]

Not everyone has money invested in the stock market.

162 million of us do.

How Many Americans Own Stock? More Than You Think | The Motley Fool

How many Americans own stock? 62% of American adults, or around 158 million people, own stock. But there's more to the story.

www.fool.com

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

Which is still below what it should be. The actual pain from his tariffs haven't even kicked in yet. What a disaster.

ttps://www.msnbc.com/katy-tur/watch/poll-shows-56-disapprove-of-trump-s-handling-of-economy-amid-tariffs-recession-fears-234235973819

It has only been ~ 2 months, I'd give it at least 100 days till we see Trump's action taking effect. And if you add all the Lawfare that the
Liberal Judges (and others) are doing to impede Trump it may take longer.

But Trump has already saved Tax payers >$115,000,000,000!
Stopped the illegal invasion, removed Thousands of Violent illegals from US Jails, stopped the need to put illegals up in Hotels, and give services to them!

These things are worth basically staying in a biden economy for a few months !

 

[Fearandloathing]

You can continue to be as pessimistic as you like but I am optimistic about what I see

Wait.

When the effect of the counter measures hit, you'll be like every other Republican...screaming your ass off.

Any idea what the unemployment rate is right now in Blaine,Washington? It's SIX TIMES what it was before Trump tariffs....and falling. One gas station dependent on Canadian sales has closed its doors, likely permanently. The sale of US products in Canada is down 44% and sinking and the governor of the red state of Kentucky is considering suicide as his bourbon sales dropped 88%!

This is what you're doing to your OWN PEOPLE!

And...as a political watcher of several decades I can attest this is NOT temporary. Americans are no longer even our friends let alone "best friends". The nest time you have to close your air space........

Oh, and the Tesla dealership in Richmond has closed "until further notice" as over $100,000 in damage was done in one night.


And we're America's 'best friend'. Good luck finding a new one. Maybe Putin will have your back

 

[EnchantedMuggle]

Take it up with the OP and MSNBC

You made the claim, which is why I'm taking it up with you.

No answer?

Oh come on, Vy, you can say it...

 

[EnchantedMuggle]

It has only been ~ 2 months, I'd give it at least 100 days till we see Trump's action taking effect. And if you add all the Lawfare that the
Liberal Judges (and others) are doing to impede Trump it may take longer.

Oh, there's the handy excuse any time Don fails. We've gone from "He's gonna fix this!" in November to Plan C in just shy of 2 months of being in office, that's got to be a record!

It's looking bad, dudes. Very bad.

But Trump has already saved Tax payers >$115,000,000,000!

Oh, he has? That's amazing! So our taxes are down now? We're all the ones seeing that savings?

Stopped the illegal invasion, removed Thousands of Violent illegals from US Jails, stopped the need to put illegals up in Hotels, and give services to them!

Stopped?

These things are worth basically staying in a biden economy for a few months !

 

[The Hairy Fiddler]

It has only been ~ 2 months, I'd give it at least 100 days till we see Trump's action taking effect. And if you add all the Lawfare that the
Liberal Judges (and others) are doing to impede Trump it may take longer.

But Trump has already saved Tax payers >$115,000,000,000!
Stopped the illegal invasion, removed Thousands of Violent illegals from US Jails, stopped the need to put illegals up in Hotels, and give services to them!

These things are worth basically staying in a biden economy for a few months !

Cult-itus is a very debilitating disease. Trump has saved taxpayers 115 trillion dollars?? Severe cases should require frontal lobotomies.

 

[ncguy]

It has only been ~ 2 months, I'd give it at least 100 days till we see Trump's action taking effect. And if you add all the Lawfare that the
Liberal Judges (and others) are doing to impede Trump it may take longer.

But Trump has already saved Tax payers >$115,000,000,000!
Stopped the illegal invasion, removed Thousands of Violent illegals from US Jails, stopped the need to put illegals up in Hotels, and give services to them!

These things are worth basically staying in a biden economy for a few months !

prove how much he has saved with actual independent audited statements.
it sure isn't $115 TRILLION. lol.

"trump is punching me in the face, but lets give him 100 days to keep punching me to see if it works" <- right wing "logic"

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

Oh, there's the handy excuse any time Don fails. We've gone from "He's gonna fix this!" in November to Plan C in just shy of 2 months of being in office, that's got to be a record!

WE have seen in the past that Trump does a good job FOR America! So I'm sure things will get better under Trump, but regardless of what the Libs think Trump does not have a Magic wand that can revers 4 years of disaster in 2 months !

It's looking bad, dudes. Very bad.

Oh, he has? That's amazing! So our taxes are down now? We're all the ones seeing that savings?

So what do you think will be YOUR Personal impact when the Government stops sending Millions/Billions to BS cause/groups"?
Do you think they are going to send you an Email or something ?
Next years taxes will be telling. If we have the same deductions as we did for the last 4 years and next year we get money back
then we can tell. The current estimate is that Trump/DOGE has saved each Taxpayers ~ $700 so far (in 2 months)

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

www.doge.gov

Stopped?

 

[ncguy]

WE have seen in the past that Trump does a good job FOR America! So I'm sure things will get better under Trump, but regardless of what the Libs think Trump does not have a Magic wand that can revers 4 years of disaster in 2 months !

So what do you think will be YOUR Personal impact when the Government stops sending Millions/Billions to BS cause/groups"?
Do you think they are going to send you an Email or something ?
Next years taxes will be telling. If we have the same deductions as we did for the last 4 years and next year we get money back
then we can tell. The current estimate is that Trump/DOGE has saved each Taxpayers ~ $700 so far (in 2 months)

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

www.doge.gov

well, we saw him screw up the pandemic, we can agree on that.

where did that "estimate" come from? the people who said a contract worth 9 billion was actually worth 9 million. Doge is incompetent.

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

prove how much he has saved with actual independent audited statements.
it sure isn't $115 TRILLION. lol.

LOL !
For the last few decades these organization have not had independent audits, and now that DOGE has gone in and autided them and shut things down YOU NEED AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT ??....

Here's who I ball park the situation!
Many orgs have had 1,000's of Employees laid off (A lot of money), Many building have been sold, or stopped renting office space!
Many contracts were stopped.

"trump is punching me in the face, but lets give him 100 days to keep punching me to see if it works" <- right wing "logic"

No, This is what YOU FEEL !

Grown up, and mature people realize that when you've dug yourself in to a whole there is going to be a PAINFUL Period in your life as you
reverse all those bad choices you've made (That put you in your hole) !

All Trump's Tariffs are good things for America to do! Stop unfair trade deficits. Yes it can put hardship on some, but if we get
more fair trade relationships it will make things better and we will greatly profit in the future, making any suffering worth it!

 

[ncguy]

LOL !
For the last few decades these organization have not had independent audits, and now that DOGE has gone in and autided them and shut things down YOU NEED AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT ??....

Here's who I ball park the situation!
Many orgs have had 1,000's of Employees laid off (A lot of money), Many building have been sold, or stopped renting office space!
Many contracts were stopped.


No, This is what YOU FEEL !

Grown up, and mature people realize that when you've dug yourself in to a whole there is going to be a PAINFUL Period in your life as you
reverse all those bad choices you've made (That put you in your hole) !

All Trump's Tariffs are good things for America to do! Stop unfair trade deficits. Yes it can put hardship on some, but if we get
more fair trade relationships it will make things better and we will greatly profit in the future, making any suffering worth it!

they haven't had independent audits? prove it.

doge audited them? with qualified auditors? prove it.

"many contracts were stopped"? how much was actually saved? "stopping" a contract doesn't necessarily save money, depending on how the contract was written.

tarrifs are good things for america? prove it, with a credible independent expert.

unfair trade deficits? prove it.

i doubt you'll prove anything.

 

[trouble13]

Like rising grocery, energy and fuel prices, tariffs that will cost you 25% and up on any imports you buy-(that would be most things)? Oh and inflation is set to rise, with economists warning that there may be a recession in store or you. Yes, with all that good news I can understand why you're so optimistic...

https://www.bankrate.com/insurance/homeowners-insurance/cost-of-living-statistics/#cost-of-living-statistics-2025

When was the last time these economists have been right

 

[Chomsky]

Quinnipiac shows 54% disapprove and only 41 percent approve, which is still pretty horrible:

Voters' Ratings On Economy And Trump Dip, Trade And Russia - Ukraine War Weigh On Trump's Numbers, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Majority Disapprove Of Trump's Handling Of Zelensky Meeting | Quinnipiac University Poll

"A noticeable uptick of discontent can be seen over President Trump's handling of a range of issues: from Ukraine to the economy to the federal workforce," said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Tim Malloy.

poll.qu.edu

I don't like CNN, but they show 56% disapproval, which is what "Katy Tur" was apparently talking about in the vid. It wasn't an MSNBC poll

so apparently the joke's on you (and in the White House)

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/12/trump-economy-poll-025740

Actually, the joke's on us - sadly. They're laughing at us in the White House.