ricksfolly
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The Democrats in the House didn't get the votes needed to extend unemployment insurance. The vote, 258 to 154 fell short of the needed 60 percent. 21 Republicans joined with the Democrats, but 11 moderate Democrats voted no.
ricksfolly
The Democrats in the House didn't get the votes needed to extend unemployment insurance. The vote, 258 to 154 fell short of the needed 60 percent. 21 Republicans joined with the Democrats, but 11 moderate Democrats voted no.
ricksfolly
The title 5,000,000 people won't have a Merry Christmas is ridiculous. If an unemployment check is the only thing standing between them and a Merry Christmas, then I say they are WAY too dependent on government. If they are really poor (which I doubt many are) There are plenty of places to apply to get new toys and clothes for kids. I'm going to adopt a family myself from the Salvation Army, since I have very few people to buy for.
you have no idea what situation these people are in, if they are poor or not. judge much?
I just know that in those two depressing years, unemployment checks merely stalled the inevitable. In my opinion, those two years were a complete waste.
She at least got checks than, and in the long run that was the only thing that counted. Of course she could have opted out anytime, and do the things she was forced to do after the checks stopped, so that's really not an issue.
ricksfolly
My mom was on unemployment for at least two years. She spent the time sulking in her house, drinking, and watching sitcom re-runs on television. When the last unemployment check ran out, she cried, then I helped her move some of her things into her mother's (my grandmother) house. Now that the worst is over, she's being far more productive. She's eating healthier, sleeping better, drinking less, going back to school to get a certificate in medical coding and billing, and is working part-time in order to pay off her car payments and insurance premiums..
Oh!! I get it. So your mom's experience is the universal experience. Certainly doesn't explain me figuring out how to work without leaving home again, or my sister who is at month six and petrified that there won't be a month seven. She's having a great deal of difficulty grasping the concept of a first extension. I'm afraid she'll start drinking again (it's only been 25 years since her last one) if somebody doesn't man up and hire her ass.
The title 5,000,000 people won't have a Merry Christmas is ridiculous. If an unemployment check is the only thing standing between them and a Merry Christmas, then I say they are WAY too dependent on government. If they are really poor (which I doubt many are) There are plenty of places to apply to get new toys and clothes for kids. I'm going to adopt a family myself from the Salvation Army, since I have very few people to buy for.
To automatically assume that they are all deadbeats or lazy is an insult to hardworking people who are trying to weather out a storm they didn't cause. Not satisfied with your first shot, now you make another assumption that there are plenty of places to get toys toys and clothes for kids.
What you fail to realize is that the extension is unemployment insurance, paid for every week they were all employed, not free money from the government...
ricksfolly
Oh!! I get it. So your mom's experience is the universal experience. Certainly doesn't explain me figuring out how to work without leaving home again, or my sister who is at month six and petrified that there won't be a month seven. She's having a great deal of difficulty grasping the concept of a first extension. I'm afraid she'll start drinking again (it's only been 25 years since her last one) if somebody doesn't man up and hire her ass.
OK I got a serious question here. Are people getting cut off at week 7? I thought people could get unemployment for something like 26 wks? That everything after that is extentions given by the federal government.
Are you seriously trying to blame unemployment checks for her bad decisions?My mom was on unemployment for at least two years. She spent the time sulking in her house, drinking, and watching sitcom re-runs on television. When the last unemployment check ran out, she cried, then I helped her move some of her things into her mother's (my grandmother) house. Now that the worst is over, she's being far more productive. She's eating healthier, sleeping better, drinking less, going back to school to get a certificate in medical coding and billing, and is working part-time in order to pay off her car payments and insurance premiums.
What's the lesson here? I don't know. Figure it out for yourself. I just know that in those two depressing years, unemployment checks merely stalled the inevitable. In my opinion, those two years were a complete waste. My mom is now 51 years old, with ZERO pension money and ZERO savings. She could have applied to school two years earlier and moved out two years earlier, and she would have been a lot better off.
Are you seriously trying to blame unemployment checks for her bad decisions?
No, my mother's experience is not the universal experience. But she was my personal experience that solidified my current views on the topic.
Perhaps the people you know who are so worried about an extension should retrain themselves and maybe consider moving back in with family (if they haven't already).
Are you seriously trying to blame unemployment checks for her bad decisions?
Like any government "insurance plan," people always tend to receive far more than they put in. For instance, my mother worked for 6 months at a PI firm and made roughly 60K a year. She received checks up to 4,000 per month.
Yes, he most assuredly is.
So you seem to be a Libertarian when it suits you. It was your mother's responsibility to use that money to support herself, live frugally, and look for a job while she received that money. You seem to want to blame the company that made the gun for a child getting ahold of his dad's gun and hurting himself with it.Not entirely. My mother's bad decisions were her own (including buying expensive food and living a wine life on a beer budget), but the unemployment checks did, IMHO, provide the incentive to lie down when she should have been picking herself up again.
There was no difference between my mom on the first day of losing her job and the first day after the last check ran out. Again, the two years on unemployment were a waste for her, and for many others, I gather.
That doesn't make any sense. None. You can only make a percentage of your highest quarter of the past however-many years. Definitely at least one year, possibly more.
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