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JustinS;bt1248 said:scott3dl, Obama is not a socialist. He is regarded by most actual socialists as having centrist views. Claims of him being a socialist are only seen in republican propaganda. By European standards, he is actually a moderate conservative. America is perhaps one of the least socialist countries in the world; most people viewed as 'left-wing extremists' in America would generally be viewed as mainstream social democrats in Europe.
scott3dl said:I agree that America is one of the least socialist countries in the world; at least the world that I'm familiar with. Obama is a dedicated socialist, who has been allowed to portray himself as a moderate by a corrupt press and apathetic public. If Obama showed his true colors, he would not be able to run for any office outside of Chicago, San Francisco, Portland or Seattle. As far as Europe goes, times are changing. The European countries are slowly beginning to realize that Socialism only leads to ruin. The pendulum is starting to swing, hopefully its not too late.
I disagree with this prediction. They are actually becoming less socialist, and are facing some hard times. Countries such as Spain are actually not that liberal, anyway. They are still on the right, so you are pretty much advocating complete and utter neoliberalism.scott3dl said:if they continue their liberal/socialist ways, they are in for some seriously hard times
JustinS;bt1248 said:scott3dl, Obama is not a socialist. He is regarded by most actual socialists as having centrist views. Claims of him being a socialist are only seen in republican propaganda. By European standards, he is actually a moderate conservative. America is perhaps one of the least socialist countries in the world; most people viewed as 'left-wing extremists' in America would generally be viewed as mainstream social democrats in Europe.