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2017 College Football Thread [W:49]

Trippy Trekker said:
What a crapfest of mumbo jumbo! Granted, in Men's Football and Basketball, the Big Ten can lay claim to some of the better teams. Only in an Alternate Universe replete with Alternative Facts, Ignorance and Unmitigated Bias can the Big Ten lay claim to having the Best Conference.

Make all the excuses you want. The Big Ten did not make the cut this year. Maybe next year?

Georgia (S.E.C) v. Alabama (S.E.C.) - to determine this year's Real World National Champion
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Deny deny deny.

Two excellent teams do not make up for weakness elsewhere.
 
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The BIG-10 had a very good year. It would've been better if they had enough good teams to fill all their bowl slots.
 
calamity said:
Mayfield will not last until pick 32.
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Team that drafts him with a high #1 is desperate.

This is a kid with serious maturity issues. Reminds me of Manziel.

Patriots should be able to land him in the second round. Mayfield is too wild to draft#1
 
Bucky said:
Team that drafts him with a high #1 is desperate.

This is a kid with serious maturity issues. Reminds me of Manziel.

Patriots should be able to land him in the second round. Mayfield is too wild to draft#1
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He's too short. I doubt he's even going to be a second rounder now, after seeing him go JT Barrett in the second half last night.
 
Bucky said:
Team that drafts him with a high #1 is desperate.

This is a kid with serious maturity issues. Reminds me of Manziel.

Patriots should be able to land him in the second round. Mayfield is too wild to draft#1
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One half of football can turn a kid into a first round pick to now 3rd rounder?
 
Jack Hays said:
Deny deny deny.

Two excellent teams do not make up for weakness elsewhere.
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Okay... wink wink. Welcome to Jack's World... all Grins!

Your acceptance of Defeat reminds me of Roy Moore's recent lawsuit seeking to overturn his Senate Race results. Maybe next year Jack the Big Ten captures True Glory! Until then, in the real world, it remains a "Less Than" Conference.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
Okay... wink wink. Welcome to Jack's World... all Grins!

Your acceptance of Defeat reminds me of Roy Moore's recent lawsuit seeking to overturn his Senate Race results. Maybe next year Jack the Big Ten captures True Glory! Until then, in the real world, it remains a "Less Than" Conference.
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Bowl records:

Big Ten: 7-1
SEC: 4-5

A conference with a bowl record below .500 shouldn't really be puffing out their chest.
 
poweRob said:
Big 10 bowls...

An unranked Purdue beat an unranked Arizona.

An unranked Iowa beat an unranked Boston College.

An unranked Michigan lost to an unranked South Carolina.

A #21 Northwestern beat an unranked Kentucky

A #16 MSU beat #18 WSU

A #9 Penn St beat a # 11 Washington

A #6 Wisconsin beat a #10 Miami

A #5 OSU beat a #8 USC​

Of all the ranked big 10 teams that played, none of them played anyone ranked higher than them. They all played down. That 7-1 bowl record would look quite a bit better had they beat any teams above them. Like how the SEC went into the playoffs ranked 3 and 4 and beat teams ranked 1 and 2.
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Jack Hays said:
Bowl records:

Big Ten: 7-1
SEC: 4-5

A conference with a bowl record below .500 shouldn't really be puffing out their chest.
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Doah! PoweRob already provided a succinct analysis. I suggest you review it.
 
I would say overall the B1G has the strongest conference this year, with the most competitive teams.

The SEC was very top heavy. Two great teams who made it to the CFP Championship, a good Auburn who finished 10-4 after losing their bowl game, and the rest of the conference pretty lackluster.
 
poweRob said:
Very true. I've said this many times but there is only one team I love more than georgia and it is a division II team. And they have a 28 team playoff that is over in 5 weeks. 28 teams (4 on a bye) to 16 to 8 to 4 to championship. Several years ago my division II college went into that playoff with two losses and I think ranked 17th and went on to win the national championship. We gotta get past this whole... men sitting in a smokey room choosing who they think is the best and instead let them play it out.
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The power 5 conferences aren't enthusiastic about playing top notch non power five conference juggernauts like UCF & USF.
'Here's an idea. How about a Power 5 conference invites UCF to join. It's the largest university in the nation in a Top 20 TV market
of well over 2 million people. What would the Power 5 have to lose (except for a bunch of football games)?'

If..but most aren't interested. They'd rather schedule Delaware State or Mercer.

UCF 13-0, Conference Champs, Common Opponent - Auburn: Win
Georgia 13-1, Conference Champs, Common Opponent - Auburn: Lost and Won
Alabama 12-1, Common Opponent - Auburn: Lost
 
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slick said:
The power 5 conferences aren't enthusiastic about playing top notch non power five conference juggernauts like UCF & USF.
'Here's an idea. How about a Power 5 conference invites UCF to join. It's the largest university in the nation in a Top 20 TV market
of well over 2 million people. What would the Power 5 have to lose (except for a bunch of football games)?'

If..but most aren't interested. They'd rather schedule Delaware State or Mercer.

UCF 13-0, Conference Champs, Common Opponent - Auburn: Win
Georgia 13-1, Conference Champs, Common Opponent - Auburn: Lost and Won
Alabama 12-1, Common Opponent - Auburn: Lost
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Here's the deal with Auburn. They are coached to hold. They beat Georgia by holding and the refs laid back and went easy on the calls in that first game. Then after the game was over and before the SEC championship... Kirby Smart laid the groundwork for the holds to be called by saying that he thought they got away with a lot of holding in the secondary. Auburn clogged the line against the run to make Georgia pass and then held the receivers.

After Kirby shined a light on what they were doing the refs didn't let that **** fly in the SEC championship. Then when Auburn played UCF... watch the coach Frost on the sidelines... he was bitching about all the holding and the refs took note and that crap stopped and leveled the field for UCF to get their win.
 
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Bucky said:
Team that drafts him with a high #1 is desperate.

This is a kid with serious maturity issues. Reminds me of Manziel.

Patriots should be able to land him in the second round. Mayfield is too wild to draft#1
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Oh come on. Mayfield is nothing like Manziel. He's not an immature, partying drug addict. He's mature beyond his years on the field... he's just a braggart. Which, on the right team, is fuel for much needed fire.
 
The Man said:
I would say overall the B1G has the strongest conference this year, with the most competitive teams.

The SEC was very top heavy. Two great teams who made it to the CFP Championship, a good Auburn who finished 10-4 after losing their bowl game, and the rest of the conference pretty lackluster.
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How many good teams in a conference does it take to not be top heavy? South Carolina won their bowl and finished 9-4. LSU and Mississippi State both finished 9-4. Only 4 of the 14 teams in the SEC conference were sub 500.
 
poweRob said:
Oh come on. Mayfield is nothing like Manziel. He's not an immature, partying drug addict. He's mature beyond his years on the field... he's just a braggart. Which, on the right team, is fuel for much needed fire.
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I like him a lot. He seems to have passion (which you can't really teach) and deadly accurate.

You look at qbs that were inaccurate in college, not many developed "accuracy" in the pros - Cam Newton, Kaepernick, Vick, McNabb, Brissett, etc...
 
Been a crazy year. Glad it is over looking forward to 2018.

Too bad Michigan couldn't win their bowl game so the Big would have had a big sweep. First time I have ever rooted for Wolverines and that was painful but even then they couldn't deliver.



Then I watched the Rose Bowl rooting for the Sooners and they lost.

After that I turned off the Sugar Bowl and this morning found out the team I was rooting for could only squeeze out 2 field goals. How in the heck can the #1 team perform so poorly? The next person to spout off to me that OSU couldn't beat Clemson get ready for an earful.

So here we are with two SEC teams battling it out for the championship. Two teams eating their own.
 
vesper said:
Been a crazy year. Glad it is over looking forward to 2018.

Too bad Michigan couldn't win their bowl game so the Big would have had a big sweep. First time I have ever rooted for Wolverines and that was painful but even then they couldn't deliver.



Then I watched the Rose Bowl rooting for the Sooners and they lost.

After that I turned off the Sugar Bowl and this morning found out the team I was rooting for could only squeeze out 2 field goals. How in the heck can the #1 team perform so poorly? The next person to spout off to me that OSU couldn't beat Clemson get ready for an earful.

So here we are with two SEC teams battling it out for the championship. Two teams eating their own.
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If only OSU had beaten Iowa. :(
 
calamity said:
If only OSU had beaten Iowa. :(
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Maybe, it is spilled milk now. But one thing I have learned this season is there are biases among the Committee. Go back and look at the numbers. It shows a real bias throughout the year. That is how Clemson gets to be #1 and UCF ends up at #12 undefeated. And lo and behold SEC teams end up with the edge. If anything the committee their point system has been exposed.
 
Arizona just fired Rich Rodriguez.
 
vesper said:
Maybe, it is spilled milk now. But one thing I have learned this season is there are biases among the Committee. Go back and look at the numbers. It shows a real bias throughout the year. That is how Clemson gets to be #1 and UCF ends up at #12 undefeated. And lo and behold SEC teams end up with the edge. If anything the committee their point system has been exposed.
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Here is the final poll, IMO

1 & 2: Alabama or Georgia
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio State
5. Clemson
6. Penn State

I think the highest ranking UCF can achieve is 7 or 8.
 
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