• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

2016 Republican Contenders Silent On Planned Parenthood Shooting

TheDemSocialist said:
2016 Republican Contenders Silent On Planned Parenthood Shooting
Ohhh Republicans.. Radical Christian Terrorism, isn't that what Republicans are unafraid to call it?
Click to expand...

You being a leftist, I appreciate you prefer to have your leaders speak out of emotional ignorance, such as President Obama, rather than speak out of rational knowledge.

Do you know this man is a Christian? Do you know this man acted in the name of Christianity? His actions are clearly radical and likely by definition terrorism, but doesn't it show a sense of intellectual leadership for those who hold no public office and no leadership roll to hold back on entering the discussion from what would be a purely political place?

Why are you and your President so intent on making political hay on the graves of a police officer and two innocent civilians and why criticize those who refuse to do likewise?
 
Moderate Right said:
Of course the left is jumping right on this for political gain. I read something somewhere yesterday criticizing the Republicans for not supporting Planned Parenthood. I mean, that's just ridiculous. They're supposed to go from being anti-abortion one day to pro choice the next because of a shooting? Cruz was chastised by the left for showing support for the victims and their families and not "supporting" planned parenthood. The left has already started to imply that it is the Republicans fault for the shooting for their stand against Planned Parenthood, inciting whackos to do violence against PP clinics. How is this any different than whackos killing innocent policemen due to the Black Lives Matter movement? I didn't see the movement "supporting" police departments any differently than Republicans "supporting" Planned Parenthood.
Click to expand...

The reason they're refusing to condemn the actions of this terrorist is because they agree with his message.

That is sickening.
 
CanadaJohn said:
You being a leftist, I appreciate you prefer to have your leaders speak out of emotional ignorance, such as President Obama, rather than speak out of rational knowledge.

Do you know this man is a Christian? Do you know this man acted in the name of Christianity? His actions are clearly radical and likely by definition terrorism, but doesn't it show a sense of intellectual leadership for those who hold no public office and no leadership roll to hold back on entering the discussion from what would be a purely political place?

Why are you and your President so intent on making political hay on the graves of a police officer and two innocent civilians and why criticize those who refuse to do likewise?
Click to expand...

And this is a refusal to believe any basic facts.

This terrorist attacked planned parenthood. Denounce him or implicitly support him.
 
Absentglare said:
The reason they're refusing to condemn the actions of this terrorist is because they agree with his message.

That is sickening.
Click to expand...

What is sickening is your implying that the candidates are all for the killing of innocent lives in order to stop abortions. What is sickening is the Black Lives Matter movement inciting violence to further their cause. What is sickening is Lois Lerner using her position to destroy conservative groups. What is sickening is the New Black Panther Party intimidating voters to help Obama get elected.
 
Last edited:
Absentglare said:
And this is a refusal to believe any basic facts.

This terrorist attacked planned parenthood. Denounce him or implicitly support him.
Click to expand...

Speaking of emotional ignorance without any knowledge...................................................
 
Moderate Right said:
What is sickening is your implying that the candidates are all for the killing of innocent lives in order to stop abortions. What is sickening is the Black Lives Matter movement inciting violence to further their cause. What is sickening is Lois Lerner using her position to destroy conservative groups. What is sickening is the New Black Panther Party intimidating voters to help Obama get elected.
Click to expand...

Why don't these republicans condemn the use of violence for political goals ?

BLM is off-topic. President Obama explicitly condemned the use of violence for those protests. Your partisanship is showing.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Speaking of emotional ignorance without any knowledge...................................................
Click to expand...

So you support violent terrorism when it conforms with your ideologies ?
 
Perhaps, unlike our current President, these Republican candidates prefer to not inject themselves in to a local law enforcement process.
 
PerfectStorm said:
Perhaps, unlike our current President, these Republican candidates prefer to not inject themselves in to a local law enforcement process.
Click to expand...

What ? Inject themselves by denouncing a widely publicized murderer?
 
digsbe said:
Maybe instead of making statements within hours they are waiting for info?

I mean, we have the left hear calling it "Christian terrorism" before facts or motives have been given. If it makes things better Sarah Palin already condemned the shooting.
Click to expand...

They all made statements after Charleston, very quickly.

But this time....well.....?
 
PerfectStorm said:
Perhaps, unlike our current President, these Republican candidates prefer to not inject themselves in to a local law enforcement process.
Click to expand...

But, they all did during the Charleston shootings.

Hypocrisy! They are soaking in it.
 
Absentglare said:
Why don't these republicans condemn the use of violence for political goals ?

BLM is off-topic. President Obama explicitly condemned the use of violence for those protests. Your partisanship is showing.
Click to expand...

BLM isn't off topic at all. It's the double standard. So Obama is one person. I was referring to the whole left, not just one person.
 
Moderate Right said:
BLM isn't off topic at all. It's the double standard. So Obama is one person. I was referring to the whole left, not just one person.
Click to expand...

It is off-topic. BLM is about police violence against blacks, it is a conflict between individuals and the public.

This is about individuals causing harm to other individuals over private medical needs.

Notice how one is a protest against the state and the other is a bunch of heated rhetoric, inflammatory language, and inaccurate demonization ?
 
PeteEU said:
LOL why on earth should they start now?
Click to expand...
after the media harps on everyone on all sides when that happens, they probably don't want to hurt each of their already fragile chances.
 
from NYT: "If you talked to him, nothing with him was very cognitive - topics all over the place,'' said James Russell, who lives near the shack"
allegedly said "no more baby parts", disputed by RS http://www.redstate.com/2015/11/28/robert-lewis-dear-never-talked-religion-abortion/
according to GP, also said "Don't touch me i work for the government Crazy Colorado Springs Shooter Robert Lewis Dear: "Don't Touch Me, I Work With the Government" - The Gateway Pundit
according to WE, He also identifies as a woman. Colorado shooter identifies as woman in voter registration | Washington Examiner Even More Bizarre Twist Comes Out About Planned Parenthood Shooter – And It’s a Real Doozy
 
DarkWizard12 said:
from NYT: "If you talked to him, nothing with him was very cognitive - topics all over the place,'' said James Russell, who lives near the shack"
allegedly said "no more baby parts", disputed by RS http://www.redstate.com/2015/11/28/robert-lewis-dear-never-talked-religion-abortion/
according to GP, also said "Don't touch me i work for the government Crazy Colorado Springs Shooter Robert Lewis Dear: "Don't Touch Me, I Work With the Government" - The Gateway Pundit
according to WE, He also identifies as a woman. Colorado shooter identifies as woman in voter registration | Washington Examiner Even More Bizarre Twist Comes Out About Planned Parenthood Shooter – And It’s a Real Doozy
Click to expand...

Gateway Pundit? By Jim Hoft? The dumbest guy on the internet?

He just makes things up, and lies, and its well documented. Get better sources.
 
Absentglare said:
It is off-topic. BLM is about police violence against blacks, it is a conflict between individuals and the public.

This is about individuals causing harm to other individuals over private medical needs.

Notice how one is a protest against the state and the other is a bunch of heated rhetoric, inflammatory language, and inaccurate demonization ?
Click to expand...

Oh. Now I understand. Thanks for explaining it to me. When the right uses their first amendment rights and protests for a cause they believe in and it leads to violence and deaths from some extremist whackos then the blood is on their hands. When the left protests against things such as Wall Street or police brutality against blacks (just to name two), using their first amendment rights and protests for their cause and it leads to violence and deaths from some extremist whackos then that is OK and there is no blood on their hands.
 
Moderate Right said:
Oh. Now I understand. Thanks for explaining it to me. When the right uses their first amendment rights and protests for a cause they believe in and it leads to violence and deaths from some extremist whackos then the blood is on their hands. When the left protests against things such as Wall Street or police brutality against blacks (just to name two), using their first amendment rights and protests for their cause and it leads to violence and deaths from some extremist whackos then that is OK and there is no blood on their hands.
Click to expand...

Oh- did OWS commit arson hundreds of times ?

Blacks were killed by police. That was the cause of the protests. I can accept that you simply don't care about black people, but i do care about them.

In PP, right wing politicians lie to maximally enrage their constituents. That has the side effect of setting off the wackos. Their tendency toward silence implies that they don't care if cops die for their cause. Thankfully, Huckabee had the sense to condemn the attack.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
to my knowledge most of them already have, but saying this is christian terrorism it's kind of a jump at this point. How do we know he doesn't have some brain tumor or pyschological disease or something.
Click to expand...

Not to my knowledge. Huckabee is the only one who explicitly denounced the attacker. Fiorina and Carson weaseled out of outright condemnation. Trump didn't even try.

DarkWizard12 said:
hyperbole much?
Click to expand...

No.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom