2 How do you think the world views America?

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

A) Who gives a sh!t?

B) No seriously who gives a sh!t?

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Are you done worshiping dead tyrants yet?

Perhaps the kind of person who would consider most of the planet being nuked the opposite of being "better off" would give a ****.

Or perhaps someone who considers apathy regarding being despised hardly conducive to creating a world where people are less likely to attack you. Is blowback a myth in your tyrant worshipping, neocon fantasy land?

 

[jamesrage]

A) Who gives a sh!t?

B) No seriously who gives a sh!t?

I voted "No seriously who gives a shit".

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Re: Are you done worshiping dead tyrants yet?

Perhaps the kind of person who would consider most of the planet being nuked the opposite of being "better off" would give a ****.

Or perhaps someone who considers apathy regarding being despised hardly conducive to creating a world where people are less likely to attack you. Is blowback a myth in your tyrant worshipping, neocon fantasy land?

If you live your life based on trying to please people then that's not living, people can get fuc/ked and so can the rest of the world, if they don't like how we run things then let's see them do something about it.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

And how is a nuked up planet a life worth living? You've gone batshit ToT

If you live your life based on trying to please people then that's not living

What the hell are you talking about. What does my personal (and quite joyful) lifestyle have at all to do with trying to please people? How is supporting the constitution, international laws, and not immoral policies like torture "trying to please people."

Can't you just talk straight with me rather than resorting to Neocon Rhetoric 101? Not wanting most of the people on this planet dead tomorrow is hardly "trying to please people." Your post options are a false dichotomy, you don't have to speak in them as well.

people can get fuc/ked and so can the rest of the world, if they don't like how we run things then let's see them do something about it.

So its "**** them, we'll do as we please, lets see them do something about it" then its "if anyone attempts to do anything they're terrorists, if anyone disagrees they're treasonous, or giving comfort to the enemy."

Its no wonder that your ideal is a world that can "get ****ed." We don't run things, we aren't the world's police. And there are better ways of dealing with people who disagree than considering them enemies unworthy of diplomacy. But then again, you support nuking most of the world tomorrow; How would living in your nuclear holocaust of a dream world be "worth living?"

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Re: And how is a nuked up planet a life worth living? You've gone batshit ToT

What the hell are you talking about. What does my personal (and quite joyful) lifestyle have at all to do with trying to please people? How is supporting the constitution, international laws, and not immoral policies like torture "trying to please people."

Can't you just talk straight with me rather than resorting to Neocon Rhetoric 101? Not wanting most of the people on this planet dead tomorrow is hardly "trying to please people." Your post options are a false dichotomy, you don't have to speak in them as well.



So its "**** them, we'll do as we please, lets see them do something about it" then its "if anyone attempts to do anything they're terrorists, if anyone disagrees they're treasonous, or giving comfort to the enemy."

Its no wonder that your ideal is a world that can "get ****ed." We don't run things, we aren't the world's police. And there are better ways of dealing with people who disagree than considering them enemies unworthy of diplomacy. But then again, you support nuking most of the world tomorrow; How would living in your nuclear holocaust of a dream world be "worth living?"

Yep we've seen where you diplomacy leads to Mr. Chamberlin quite frankly you can stuff your diplomacy, diplomacy implies that you would be negotiating with reasonable and rational people, there's no point in negotiating with irrational people they just see it as a sign of weakness.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

You're more dangerous w/ a nuke than Almedinajad

So you're not even going to address the fact that your "trying to please people" tripe was bullshit? I thought not...

Yep we've seen where you diplomacy leads to Mr. Chamberlin quite frankly you can stuff your diplomacy, diplomacy implies that you would be negotiating with reasonable and rational people, there's no point in negotiating with irrational people they just see it as a sign of weakness.

You're saying **** everybody, most of them should be nuked tomorrow, there is no reason to talk to them, it doesn't matter what they think of us and everyone who disagrees and wouldn't want to die at the hands of your insane neo-con madness are the ones who are irrational?

What is the use of reason when you refuse to listen to it? You're an evil and dangerous person who worships dead tyrants, couldn't give a **** about liberty, or the rights of your political opponents, and I am ashamed to call you my countryman. I know you don't care what anyone in or outside of our borders thinks, but just for a moment imagine how the leaders of the world would react to any President or politician for that matter who suggested what you just did, nukes and such.

I thought you were misguided before, but now with bhkad sucking your dick, I know your tripe has gone beyond reason.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Re: You're more dangerous w/ a nuke than Almedinajad

So you're not even going to address the fact that your "trying to please people" tripe was bullshit? I thought not...



You're saying **** everybody, most of them should be nuked tomorrow, there is no reason to talk to them, it doesn't matter what they think of us and everyone who disagrees and wouldn't want to die at the hands of your insane neo-con madness are the ones who are irrational?

What is the use of reason when you refuse to listen to it? You're an evil and dangerous person who worships dead tyrants, couldn't give a **** about liberty, or the rights of your political opponents, and I am ashamed to call you my countryman. I know you don't care what anyone in or outside of our borders thinks, but just for a moment imagine how the leaders of the world would react to any President or politician for that matter who suggested what you just did, nukes and such.

I thought you were misguided before, but now with bhkad sucking your dick, I know your tripe has gone beyond reason.

Bla bla bla, I was being slightly facetious but ya I think that if we had a nuke that could evaporate every tyrannical dictatorship on the planet while leaving their people alive would be a pretty good thing.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Dangerous, crazy, and a hypocrite to boot.

Bla bla bla

A brilliantly well put argument, filled with vim and verve. You really moved me.

I was being slightly facetious but ya I think that if we had a nuke that could evaporate every tyrannical dictatorship on the planet while leaving their people alive would be a pretty good thing.

Said the man with a TYRANT AS HIS AVATAR. I'm not going to fall for this backtracking bullshit, you didn't say we'd be better off if every tyrannical dictator was nuked, You said:

Personally the world would be a better place if most of it got nuked tomorrow.

Did you think my short term memory was on the fritz? You said MOST OF THE WORLD, with no qualifier or standard as to who does and doesn't get nuked. Most of the world /= Tyrannical Dictators. They don't even make tactical nukes small enough to kill just one man. You don't hate tyrants, you just love reasons for war.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Re: Dangerous, crazy, and a hypocrite to boot.

A brilliantly well put argument, filled with vim and verve. You really moved me.



Said the man with a TYRANT AS HIS AVATAR. I'm not going to fall for this backtracking bullshit, you didn't say we'd be better off if every tyrannical dictator was nuked, You said:



Did you think my short term memory was on the fritz? You said MOST OF THE WORLD, with no qualifier or standard as to who does and doesn't get nuked. Most of the world /= Tyrannical Dictators. They don't even make tactical nukes small enough to kill just one man. You don't hate tyrants, you just love reasons for war.

I understand that, and I clearly just said that I was being slightly facetious in regards to the original comment under discussion.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Slightly? SLIGHTLY? How do you slight from your EXTREME STATEMENTS?

I understand that

Whats "that," I've said alot of things. You seem to quote my entire post and not actually address my arguments.

and I clearly just said that I was being slightly facetious in regards to the original comment under discussion.

And the original comment would be...?

• Most of the world being nuked? If so, how SLIGHTLY were you being facetious? Should some be nuked? Who and by what standard?
• Nuking tyrannical dictators? Which couldn't have been the original comment because you first mentioned something being "slightly facetious" in post #8 then shifting to this new comment, which was an obvious dodge from the above.
• About "stuffing" diplomacy, whatever that means? And that talking to people is a sign of weakness, which is beyond stupidity.
• Your nonsense about my political opinions having anything to do with trying to please people?
• That everyone, Americans included, can get ****ed as far as you care?
• Or that you don't give a **** what the people of the world think of America, or your crazy neo-con war mongering?

Just what among your countless insane statements were you ONLY SLIGHTLY being facetious about?

 

[Hatuey]

I don't need a guy in Singapore to tell me how shitty the current administration is. I already know thank you very much.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Re: Slightly? SLIGHTLY? How do you slight from your EXTREME STATEMENTS?

Whats "that," I've said alot of things. You seem to quote my entire post and not actually address my arguments.



And the original comment would be...?

• Most of the world being nuked? If so, how SLIGHTLY were you being facetious? Should some be nuked? Who and by what standard?

Ya that's the one, my main point was that the old world is an existential threat and the world would be a better place if most of these nations didn't exist or never existed.

• Nuking tyrannical dictators? Which couldn't have been the original comment because you first mentioned something being "slightly facetious" in post #8 then shifting to this new comment, which was an obvious dodge from the above.

That was less facetious in fact I'm dead serious, I would like to round up the dictators of the world and have them executed, and if I were President that's exactly what I would do, I would declare martial law during the next U.N. meeting and have these people dragged out onto the steps and shot.

• About "stuffing" diplomacy, whatever that means? And that talking to people is a sign of weakness, which is beyond stupidity.

No what's beyond stupidity is saying that we need to negotiate with irrationalist dictatorships, that we should appease these tyrants.

• Your nonsense about my political opinions having anything to do with trying to please people?

Are you or are you not advocating a foreign policy based on how the rest of the world feels about that policy?

• That everyone, Americans included, can get ****ed as far as you care?
• Or that you don't give a **** what the people of the world think of America, or your crazy neo-con war mongering?

Yes the world can get ****ed, we should not base our foreign policy based on global public opinion polls nor should we base it on domestic public opinion polls.

 

[Thorgasm]

Re: Slightly? SLIGHTLY? How do you slight from your EXTREME STATEMENTS?

Yes the world can get ****ed, we should not base our foreign policy based on global public opinion polls nor should we base it on domestic public opinion polls.

Spoken like Castro Jr.

 

[talloulou]

I imagine there's a bit of awe, jealousy, hatred, and love all mixed together but clearly we should give at least one $hit.

 

[jfuh]

Conceited. This thread proves it.
Why does it matter what the world thinks of us? Oh let me think here, aren't we in two wars because of what that part of the world thinks of us? doesn't our now massively in debt government need to take particular caution into how the rest of the world views the stability of our economy (hence go shopping after 9/11 was the motto)?
So it seems clear that while on an emotional level it is irrelevant however in every other regard we better be paying attention to how the rest of the world views us.

 

[jfuh]

I don't need a guy in Singapore to tell me how shitty the current administration is. I already know thank you very much.

You would need to have the rest of the world view their investment in us as something that would likly be returned with interest otherwise they may want to cash in on that debt now and we'd be seriously fracked.

 

[Zyphlin]

A) Who gives a sh!t?

B) No seriously who gives a sh!t?

What a juvenile poll.

Do we need to be worrying about what every single country or person feels about us in all ways shape or forms? No. Should we be having to go to them for everything and anything we do, or make policy decisions specifically on how it will make them view us? No.

However...to think that we shouldn't give a shit about what other countries think of us is idiotic. No matter how much people want to think we can be completely isolationist we are in a world where global communities are there and we are dealing with these people completely. To a point we do need to worry our stature in the world...just not as extreme as some make it out.

 

[danarhea]

This is not a poll. It is a troll thread, so why vote? I didn't.

 

[The Mark]

Well, this seems to be an odd poll.

I personally think that, while some parts of our country are in need others are not. On many an occasion, I see our political leaders advocating changes that, IMO, will either cause more problems while partially fixing one, or do nothing except create more problems.

We should not be entirely governed by what the rest of the world thinks of us. However, if we never take an opposing opinion and examine it, we will never know if we would want to change accordingly or not.

Personally, I do not think the rest of the world views the USA as badly as some seem to think it does.

I'm not sure why someone would want to think people thought badly of his/her own society, but.......it seems to me that some do.

 

[Joby]

People who wish to avoid the phenomenon of young men sacrificing their lives just to kill some us might care.

 

[new coup for you]

People who don't care how we're viewed abroad are people who never go abroad.

Personally I don't like every bar in Europe looking at me differently when they hear my accent. It kind of ruins your fun.

 

[GarzaUK]

A) Who gives a sh!t?

B) No seriously who gives a sh!t?

So you don't care what the world thinks. But you are willing to invade countries, change their way of life, impose your policies whether they like it or not. Threaten grave consequences if it disobeys America.

Since when has America become the world's dictator?

 

[tecoyah]

Since when has America become the world's dictator?

It seems to have become a serious problem....sometime in 2001....hmmmm.

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

Re: You're more dangerous w/ a nuke than Almedinajad

Bla bla bla, I was being slightly facetious but ya I think that if we had a nuke that could evaporate every tyrannical dictatorship on the planet while leaving their people alive would be a pretty good thing.

So the same goes for Bush?

Your Goliath complex is very childish, and you don't seem
ready to meet your David.

Now I'm not saying we need please others, but we would be
smart and better off by having our house in order! This
way nobody would have reason to dislike us and if they
did it would be due to their problems not ours.