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2 busloads of immigrants dropped off in front of VP residence in 18 degree weather

I don't care if you think assylum is a scam.
I don't think it is I know it is.
You are entitled to your opinion.
Of course I am but we're not talking about an opinion.
As a matter of fact, however, people seeking assylum have permission to be here legally until their case is heard. Which makes them, by definition, not illegals.
I'm still not buying the scam.

I already know better you are trying to get me to believe that this asylum nonsense is legitimate it isn't.
Keep going.

This display of a refusal to accept reality is fascinating.
I'm not sure why you're fascinated with your own behavior that seems strange to me.
 
I don't think it is I know it is.

Of course I am but we're not talking about an opinion.

I'm still not buying the scam.

I already know better you are trying to get me to believe that this asylum nonsense is legitimate it isn't.

I'm not sure why you're fascinated with your own behavior that seems strange to me.
Wow.
 
I believe I already addressed that when I pointed out to you that your assertion they all arrived illegally was a made up fantasy.
I never said that they all arrived illegally. You are just making that up and that is a Red Herring. ...so no, you did not address that already.
Furthermore, is it turns out, you can drop into the US from outer space... And if your claim of asylum is preliminarily accepted, you are now here legally.

That's as simply and as straightforwardly as I can explain it.
The most simple way that you can explain it is to start talking about Mexican immigrants arriving to the US from outer space?

WTF? LOL!
 
Absolute nonsense.

A murder is a murderer even if it was decades ago.

an illegal who is granted permission to be here legally is no longer illegal.

The two things are not equivalent
The analogy is about how they both broke the law and how they both served their sentence, for lack of a better term... that is equal and it is up to you to explain the differences, if there is one. Yet one is still known as their crime, murderer, and the other is now known as not their crime... illegal. Again, it is up to you to explain the differences, if there is one.
 
Before they are an "asylum seeker" they illegally entered the country.
I never said that they all arrived illegally.

Kinda seems like you did. But if that's not what you think, then that's not what you think. I do my best to keep up.

The most simple way that you can explain it is to start talking about Mexican immigrants arriving to the US from outer space?

No, I just thought it was more fun. BTW, the "Mexican" part was your contribution.
 
Kinda seems like you did. But if that's not what you think, then that's not what you think. I do my best to keep up.
The ones that arrived here illegally are the ones that arrived here illegally, and those are the ones that I was talking about.

Make better sense to you now?
No, I just thought it was more fun. BTW, the "Mexican" part was your contribution.
I just assumed Mexican as Canadiens prefer tunnels...
 
I don't think it is I know it is.

Of course I am but we're not talking about an opinion.

I'm still not buying the scam.

I already know better you are trying to get me to believe that this asylum nonsense is legitimate it isn't.

I'm not sure why you're fascinated with your own behavior that seems strange to me.
I can see that you don't like the asylum system, but you seem to think that your displeasure is legally relevant. I'm sorry to inform you that it is not.

An asylum-seeker is legal, assuming they have gone through the process. The fact that you don't like that doesn't change the legal realities.

Illegal immigrants are people who are, presently, in the country illegally. Those people need to be deported as quickly as possible. If someone isn't in the country illegally, regadless of how they got here, they aren't an illegal immigrant.
 
I can see that you don't like the asylum system,
Don't like scams.
but you seem to think that your displeasure is legally relevant. I'm sorry to inform you that it is not.
Don't care whether you think it's legally relevant or not
An asylum-seeker is legal, assuming they have gone through the process. The fact that you don't like that doesn't change the legal realities.
I don't buy this scam.

Illegal immigrants are people who are, presently, in the country illegally. Those people need to be deported as quickly as possible. If someone isn't in the country illegally, regadless of how they got here, they aren't an illegal immigrant.
Yeah I still don't buy this scam.
 
Wow indeed. You're desperately trying to get me to believe this scam and I already told you no.

It's time to give up and move on
I don't care if you think it's a scam.

Doesn't change the fact that they aren't illegal.
 
Don't like scams.

Don't care whether you think it's legally relevant or not

I don't buy this scam.

Yeah I still don't buy this scam.The next
Don't like scams.

Don't care whether you think it's legally relevant or not

I don't buy this scam.


Yeah I still don't buy this scam.


Don't like scams.

Don't care whether you think it's legally relevant or not

I don't buy this scam.


Yeah I still don't buy this scam.
The next time you're arrested I'll pay good money to watch you represent yourself in court. Your inability to distinguish between the actual law and what you want to believe would be an endless source of amusement. Watching you tell the judge that you don't care if your opinion isn't legally relevant would be the cherry on top of the "My opinion is the most important thing" sundae.
 
The next time you're arrested I'll pay good money to watch you represent yourself in court. Your inability to distinguish between the actual law and what you want to believe would be an endless source of amusement. Watching you tell the judge that you don't care if your opinion isn't legally relevant would be the cherry on top of the "My opinion is the most important thing" sundae.
Lol the fact that something is an actual law doesn't make it any less of a scam. Ever hear of civil asset forfeiture?
 
Right. Being an immoral jackass who abuses humans in this manner to make his base get little chubbies is not a violation of any federal law. We know.
Well put. A caustic combination of biting sarcasm and political reality.
 
Only repeatedly. And this effort was done quite in spite of the human trafficker Abbott. No, he and the GOP pukes don't get any credit for this.

In fact, the only reason they knew to be there is because they got tipped off by another NGO located in Texas.
So they got off the bus in freezing D.C.; were met by caregivers who were notified of their arrival; and then they were taken to some safe location.
But what about all of the melodrama associated with the migrants being dumped on the side of the road in freezing temperatures?
Doesn't that negate all of the drama presented by the virtue-signaling bleeding hearts who wait for opportunities to slam key Republicans?
 
So they got off the bus in freezing D.C.; were met by caregivers who were notified of their arrival; and then they were taken to some safe location.
But what about all of the melodrama associated with the migrants being dumped on the side of the road in freezing temperatures?
They were not notified by Abbot

They were met In spite of Abbot not because of him.
 
They were not notified by Abbot

They were met In spite of Abbot not because of him.
I never suggested they were notified by Abbott.
Someone in El Paso had 30 hours in which to notify a migrant support group in D.C.
So, what is the in who notified a support group in D.C.?
Oh, wait, I know.
You can beat Abbott over the head a little harder assuming you know there was a separate group notifying a support group in D.C. of the migrants' arrival.
 
They were not notified by Abbot

They were met In spite of Abbot not because of him.

Who does Biden (personally) notify when immigrants are being leased onto the streets of El Paso? Your double standard is obvious, but you be you.

U.S. immigration officials released 1,744 migrants in El Paso on Saturday and Sunday. Because that was more than the available beds at shelters run by nongovernmental organizations, 611 of them were released on the streets in downtown El Paso, according to the dashboard.

 
Who does Biden (personally) notify when immigrants are being leased onto the streets of El Paso? Your double standard is obvious, but you be you.

Not Biden personally or about personally.

But when Biden has moved people arrangements were made in advance by Bidens people and they were takienbto the facility arranged not dropped off on the side of the road in frontvof some political figures housevas part of a stunt.

In Abbots case his people notified no one.

the only reason people werevready is because good people, not in Texas government, found out and did the right thing.

Huge F'ing difference.
 
Not Biden personally or about personally.

But when Biden has moved people arrangements were made in advance by Bidens people and they were takienbto the facility arranged not dropped off on the side of the road in frontvof some political figures housevas part of a stunt.

In Abbots case his people notified no one.

the only reason people werevready is because good people, not in Texas government, found out and did the right thing.

Huge F'ing difference.
A difference without a distinction.
The end result was the same - the migrants were cared for.
You want extra point for your faux morality because Biden's people notified a support group beforehand? Take the points and pat yourself on the back because you voted for Biden over Trump. That's your badge of courage.
The migrants sent by Abbott ended up in the same situation.
Like you're former duly elected president once said:
"There are fine people on both sides".
All's well that ends well. Except for Dems/Liberals who want to see Republicans shamed every chance they get.
 
A difference without a distinction.

A huge....massive....distinction.

What Abbot did was a grossly immoral political stunt at the expense of the most unfortunate among us, on christmas eve no less.

What Biden did was not a political stunt, was not immoral, and isnt even in the same catagory.
 
If it is wrong that Des Santis, or whoever, did it then it is wrong of the bus driver as well.
If the bus driver had no knowledge of how or why the decision was made and the acts the bus driver was required to perform were both inside the normal course of their employment and apparently legal, then you aren't going to send the bus driver off to jail - much as you would like to so that the people who actually controlled the situation won't have to be inconvenienced.

BTW, did you know that "wrong" and "criminal" do NOT mean the same thing?
I didn't do that in the slightest.
You ought to try reading your own posts sometime.
 
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