12-Foot, Overweight Black Woman Statue Erected In Times Square As 'Contrast' To 'White Men' Hero Statues

[Michael Cole]

So for you the art is triggering and I can't really help you with that.

I'm not looking for straw, so that's correct, you can't help, but the projection is wonderful.

Black people don't "trigger" me. I'm impervious to being triggered. I've already given my interpretations, including FAFO, Target shopper, shopper and average American.

You're looking for aspiration.

Perhaps you should visit a museum.

???

Bizarre. It's okay to be outta gas. You look silly pushing that beast uphill.

I visit museums regularly. There's only one nationally accredited art museum in Nevada, and it's here up north.

Nevada Museum of Art - Visit. Art. Learn.

A museum of ideas, striving to offer meaningful art and cultural experiences while fostering new knowledge in the visual arts.

www.nevadaart.org

Great place. Be sure to check it out if you're in the area.

Plus, I don't need a museum. There are sculptures and murals all around. We're an artsy town. Jeff Jacobs, billionaire owner of the J Resort, commissioned a sculpture for the new expansion.

"...The improvements will include our new front entrance off West 4th Street, as well as a 20-foot-tall sculpture, which was recently commissioned in Italy from internationally acclaimed sculptor Richard Erdman."

Reno's J Resort unveils $130 million expansion with new festival grounds and more

Jacobs Entertainment has announced a significant $130 million development plan for J Resort, including a new outdoor entertainment agreement with JMF Presents.

mynews4.com

Why the need for an ITALIAN sculpture? Why the need? What does it prove? Obviously political.

So, how does this make you feel?

 

[Taylor]

You feeling like I lost some argument isn't the same as it being an objective fact. In fact it's you here now saying white man bad was implied and I agree, implied by you, not the artist. That's your interpretation of the art even though you tried to pretend earlier no one was saying it meant white man bad and now you're here admitting it's the implication you took from it. Is this what you imagine me losing looks like?

And now you've jumped to lying about my posts! Really poor debating.

 

[Master Debator]

And now you've jumped to lying about my posts! Really poor debating.

I'm telling you that you can't post anything from the artist saying it so the implication is yours. That's just a fact. You pretending your implications belong to someone else while funny isn't a serious argument.

 

[anatta]

You have to understand Conservatives believe at its core America is a nation of white men. Anything that gives equal rights and power to people that are not white men is un-American to them.

DEI is not "equal rights" it's some kind of preference for diversity, That's not harmful or racist in itself . When it comes to Equity of outcome
whereby final results are not judged by best metrics but by equality of outcome..it has smattering of communism in the concept as well

Equality of outcome - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What is outcome equity?
It describes a state in which all people have approximately the same material wealth and income, or in which the general economic conditions of everyone's lives are alike.

 

[j brown's body]

Everything. It perfectly encapsulates their thoughts and views on the subject.

What are those thoughts and views?

 

[Gatsby]

I am only commenting because of it's prominence..if it were anywhere else it would be "OK so what"
Are we to the point where 12 foot statue in Times Square is not to be commented on? no thanks

Being in Times Square makes it *less* prominent. There are still plenty of other paragons of human beauty in Times Square, like SpongeBob and Spiderman.

 

[Taylor]

I'm telling you that you can't post anything from the artist saying it so the implication is yours. That's just a fact. You pretending your implications belong to someone else while funny isn't a serious argument.

There go those goalposts again...



Can't debate what I did say, so...

 

[Grand Mal]

My numbers is 1-800-GoUSEGOOGLE

Not your only number. I left you voicemail at 1-800-bul-shit

 

[anatta]

My goodness what a misogynistic and bigoted if not outright racist article that is that you have posted here.

So, begs the question, do you align with the content and context of that article or not?

I didn't write this. apparently it was an Email from the artist.. read the OP more carefully

"Installed at ground level on a wide low base, the work invites engagement with the hundreds of thousands of people who traverse the plazas each day, the woman in Grounded in the Stars cuts a stark contrast to the pedestaled permanent monuments — both white, both men — which bookend Duffy Square, while embodying a quiet gravity and grandeur," the Times Square Arts group says on its site.

 

[JMR]

No black women has straight hair. Just an FYI.

That is uncategorically untrue. First hit on the question...from Google AI:

Yes, some Black individuals can have naturally straight hair. While curly or coily hair is more common in individuals of African descent, genetics and mixed ancestry can lead to straighter hair textures. The shape of the hair follicle plays a role in hair texture, with more circular follicles resulting in straighter hair.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• Genetics:
  Hair texture is determined by genetics, and while curly or coily hair is common in many Black individuals, some inherit straighter hair due to genetic variations.
• • Mixed Heritage:
    Historical migrations and mixed heritage can result in a range of hair textures, including straight hair.
  • Hair Follicles:
    The shape of the hair follicles influences hair texture. More circular-shaped follicles tend to produce straighter hair, while elongated or oval follicles result in curly or coily hair.
  • Not Always Predictable:
    Genetics isn't always predictable, and some Black individuals may be born with straight hair even without a known history of mixed ancestry, according to UNice Hair.

In addition, the statue appears to be sporting braids.

 

[j brown's body]

DEI is not "equal rights" it's some kind of preference for diversity, That's not harmful or racist in itself . When it comes to Equity of outcome
whereby final results are not judged by best metrics but by equality of outcome..it has smattering of communism in the concept as well

Equality of outcome - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What is outcome equity?
It describes a state in which all people have approximately the same material wealth and income, or in which the general economic conditions of everyone's lives are alike.

Jackie Robinson personified DEI. And yes, when he was promoted to the Dodgers a lot of people were upset about him replacing a white guy. But today, it is celebrated.

 

[Master Debator]

There go those goalposts again...

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What goal posts? You're meeking out now and posting pictures rather than arguments.

You implied that the purpose of the statue was white man bad. Why are you being this hilariously shy about it?

 

[j brown's body]

DEI is not "equal rights" it's some kind of preference for diversity, That's not harmful or racist in itself . When it comes to Equity of outcome
whereby final results are not judged by best metrics but by equality of outcome..it has smattering of communism in the concept as well

Equality of outcome - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What is outcome equity?
It describes a state in which all people have approximately the same material wealth and income, or in which the general economic conditions of everyone's lives are alike.

Could you give an example of this?

 

[Citizen]

Yep like when they make a $100 million off that tragic story, it's not aspirational at all.

In the meantime you're distracting from the fact that this is how the left views an aspirational black woman.

You have no idea how the left views black women. No one on the left said this statue is supposed to be aspirational

 

[anatta]

Jackie Robinson personified DEI. And yes, when he was promoted to the Dodgers a lot of people were upset about him replacing a white guy. But today, it is celebrated.

absolutely incorrect.
Why did Jackie Robinson get promoted to the Dodgers? Because of his measurable talent. It wasn't even affirmative action which i am fine with
It was because he was a superior player. He got promoted on merit. perhaps it was also breaking the "color barrier" -but that was secondary. If he couldn't excell, he would not have been promoted


Exceptional Performance:
Robinson had a stellar season with the Montreal Royals in the International League, hitting .349 and leading the league in batting. This performance, coupled with his earlier success in spring training against Dodgers pitchers, showed Rickey that Robinson was ready for the major leagues

 

[Michael Cole]

absolutely incorrect.
Why did Jackie Robinson get promoted to the Dodgers? Because of his measurable talent.

And all those negro league players who never made it to the majors? Josh Gibson? Underperformer?

Blacks anger you for some reason, especially if there's a "contrast" with white men.

 

[Master Debator]

absolutely incorrect.
Why did Jackie Robinson get promoted to the Dodgers? Because of his measurable talent. It wasn't even affirmative action which i am fine with
It was because he was a superior player. He got promoted on merit. perhaps it was also breaking the "color barrier" -but that was secondary. If he couldn't excell, he would not have been promoted


Exceptional Performance:
Robinson had a stellar season with the Montreal Royals in the International League, hitting .349 and leading the league in batting. This performance, coupled with his earlier success in spring training against Dodgers pitchers, showed Rickey that Robinson was ready for the major leagues

To some whites, the question of a black persons right to exist will always be one of whether or not that black person is of value to them.

White trash society expects black people to prove they're exceptional just to be granted space mediocre whites just get to exist in by default.

 

[j brown's body]

absolutely incorrect.
Why did Jackie Robinson get promoted to the Dodgers? Because of his measurable talent. It wasn't even affirmative action which i am fine with
It was because he was a superior player. He got promoted on merit. perhaps it was also breaking the "color barrier" -but that was secondary. If he couldn't excell, he would not have been promoted


Exceptional Performance:
Robinson had a stellar season with the Montreal Royals in the International League, hitting .349 and leading the league in batting. This performance, coupled with his earlier success in spring training against Dodgers pitchers, showed Rickey that Robinson was ready for the major leagues

The Dodgers specifically sought out a black player to break the color line.

THAT is DEI.

You are arguing as if DEI is intended to promote unqualified people.

I don't know why you would argue that unless you believe no black people are qualified.

Do you care to argue that?

Otherwise, know that DEI, like with Jackie Robinson, is intended to seek out qualified people for programs that have been dominated by one group.

 

[Questerr]

DEI is not "equal rights" it's some kind of preference for diversity, That's not harmful or racist in itself . When it comes to Equity of outcome
whereby final results are not judged by best metrics but by equality of outcome..it has smattering of communism in the concept as well

Equality of outcome - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What is outcome equity?
It describes a state in which all people have approximately the same material wealth and income, or in which the general economic conditions of everyone's lives are alike.

Was hiring an alcoholic Fox News commentator as Secretary of Defense “DEI”? It’s an outcome equity hire of an unqualified person, is it not?

 

[j brown's body]

Was hiring an alcoholic Fox News commentator as Secretary of Defense “DEI”? It’s an outcome equity hire of an unqualified person, is it not?

Amy Coney Barrett and Ketanji Brown Jackson are both DEI hires.

Both Trump and Biden picked them for their gender and/or race.

 

[trumptman]

It's literal fantasy that's why I call it fantasy. When you use your imagination that's you engaging in fantasy. When you imagine whether or not I was twerking that's literally you fantasizing about me twerking. You fantasizing about me and sharing that fantasy is just an objective fact now. I didn't tell you to make it an objective fact but here we are in all ots hilarious glory.

So to clarify, you've never twerked?

You tell us. We are still talking about your fantasies.

I thought it was about how you love thick black women? What's your real argument then, not so proud boy?

So we are talking about my fantasies? In my fantasies that statue is being melted down. Let's talk about that now since the goal is to fixate on my fantasies. You can feel free to twerk to celebrate it being melted down though.

 

[trumptman]

I'm not looking for straw, so that's correct, you can't help, but the projection is wonderful.

Black people don't "trigger" me. I'm impervious to being triggered. I've already given my interpretations, including FAFO, Target shopper, shopper and average American.

You're looking for aspiration.


???

Bizarre. It's okay to be outta gas. You look silly pushing that beast uphill.

I visit museums regularly. There's only one nationally accredited art museum in Nevada, and it's here up north.

Nevada Museum of Art - Visit. Art. Learn.

A museum of ideas, striving to offer meaningful art and cultural experiences while fostering new knowledge in the visual arts.

www.nevadaart.org

Great place. Be sure to check it out if you're in the area.

Plus, I don't need a museum. There are sculptures and murals all around. We're an artsy town. Jeff Jacobs, billionaire owner of the J Resort, commissioned a sculpture for the new expansion.

"...The improvements will include our new front entrance off West 4th Street, as well as a 20-foot-tall sculpture, which was recently commissioned in Italy from internationally acclaimed sculptor Richard Erdman."

Reno's J Resort unveils $130 million expansion with new festival grounds and more

Jacobs Entertainment has announced a significant $130 million development plan for J Resort, including a new outdoor entertainment agreement with JMF Presents.

mynews4.com

Why the need for an ITALIAN sculpture? Why the need? What does it prove? Obviously political.

So, how does this make you feel?

You've gone so far out into the weeds and here I am without a weed eater.

Did the donut shop run out of twists this morning? What the hell are you talking about at this stage?

 

[trumptman]

What are those thoughts and views?

Look at the statue. Seriously are you deficient in how art communicates?

 

[trumptman]

Not your only number. I left you voicemail at 1-800-bul-shit

The most hilarious point about that joke is it made me remember you are old enough to leave voicemails.

 

[trumptman]

You have no idea how the left views black women. No one on the left said this statue is supposed to be aspirational

I know exactly how the left views black women. They put up a giant 12 foot tall statue so we can all see it.