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102 Things NOT To Do If You Hate Taxes

Pinkie said:
Sorry, I did not understand this.
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The founders themselves said many times the goals of the obligations of the government. What the Hoover Dam provides for the people would not be included under those obligations.
 
Henrin said:
The founders themselves said many times the goals of the obligations of the government. What the Hoover Dam provides for the people would not be included under those obligations.
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I think the founders would be very pleased with Hoover dam.
 
winston53660 said:
I think the founders would be very pleased with Hoover dam.
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I'm not going to speak on their personal feelings about something that happened after they died, but according to their words on taxes they would not agree with the use of it going to the building of a dam.

It simply does not advance any of the obligations they put down.
 
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Henrin said:
The founders themselves said many times the goals of the obligations of the government. What the Hoover Dam provides for the people would not be included under those obligations.
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winston53660 said:
I think the founders would be very pleased with Hoover dam.
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The problem is not the Hoover Dam, but the hundreds of other dams that were built purely as pork projects. They were tremendous wastes of money and manpower that, in many cases, were ecologically devastating while providing little or no benefit to the public. The Tennessee Valley Authority is an embarrassment for the US; if that is what we will call success... then we're doomed.
 
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Henrin said:
The founders themselves said many times the goals of the obligations of the government. What the Hoover Dam provides for the people would not be included under those obligations.
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O, the Sacred Intent Of The Founders. If we had strictly adhered to them, the Cherokee would own Hoover Dam.
 
ecofarm said:
The problem is not the Hoover Dam, but the hundreds of other dams that were built purely as pork projects. They were tremendous wastes of money and manpower that, in many cases, were ecologically devastating while providing little or no benefit to the public. The Tennessee Valley Authority is an embarrassment for the US; if that is what we will call success... then we're doomed.
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The TVA provides electricity to a large segment of rural America. How does this embarrass you?
 
ecofarm said:
The problem is not the Hoover Dam, but the hundreds of other dams that were built purely as pork projects. They were tremendous wastes of money and manpower that, in many cases, were ecologically devastating while providing little or no benefit to the public. The Tennessee Valley Authority is an embarrassment for the US; if that is what we will call success... then we're doomed.
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The TVA provided lots of cheap power to an area that didn't have enough at the time. And construction of the dams and other power stations created jobs.

Maybe that's why Tennesseeans really like the TVA.
 
How would the founders be against using tax payer dollars to invest in our national industry?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
How would the founders be against using tax payer dollars to invest in our national industry?
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They made it clear what areas tax revenue was to go towards. I don't need to say anything more.

Pinkie said:
O, the Sacred Intent Of The Founders. If we had strictly adhered to them, the Cherokee would own Hoover Dam.
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It helps explain the purpose of taxation and what it is to go towards. Its has plenty reason to be said. Bringing up strawmen that have to do with other areas of the constitution is irreverent.

And I'm sure you actually agree with moving the Cherokee all of a sudden. :roll:
 
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Henrin said:
They made it clear what areas tax revenue was to go towards. I don't need to say anything more.



It helps explain the purpose of taxation and what it is to go towards. Its has plenty reason to be said. Bringing up strawmen that have to do with other areas of the constitution is irreverent.

And I'm sure you actually agree with moving the Cherokee all of a sudden. :roll:
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Well, my sense of geography does suck, I'll admit it.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
How would the founders be against using tax payer dollars to invest in our national industry?
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Let's go back to no income taxes, as they established, and you can invest your tax dollars any way you like.
 
Mach said:
Let's go back to no income taxes, as they established, and you can invest your tax dollars any way you like.
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For some reason with a society we have now and a present day society it just wouldnt be that easy....
 
TheDemSocialist said:
For some reason with a society we have now and a present day society it just wouldnt be that easy....
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that's true, we have to have income taxes to support all the govt handout programs. handouts to the poor, handouts to the starving children in guatemala, handouts to the people dying of AIDS in africa, handouts to the auto industry so they can keep paying their union workers outrageous salaries, handouts to the banks so they can keep giving mortgages to people they know can't afford them, handouts to any and everyone who has a hand out.
 
OscarB63 said:
that's true, we have to have income taxes to support all the govt handout programs.
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Yea they are terrible right?
You know helping out (kinda) the poor and the disadvantaged... I mean a 1st world country government helping out people is just awful....

handouts to the poor, handouts to the starving children in guatemala, handouts to the people dying of AIDS in africa,
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And these are bad?

handouts to the auto industry so they can keep paying their union workers outrageous salaries,
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I mean a disagree how the system was done and how the CEO's spent that money. But i mean "those outrageous union salleries" are just causing all the problems... I mean GM head CEO even said that the salaries were not the problem in the fail of GM...

handouts to the banks so they can keep giving mortgages to people they know can't afford them,
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Done by a "conservative".

handouts to any and everyone who has a hand out.
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I mean these "handouts" are awful right?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Yea they are terrible right?
You know helping out (kinda) the poor and the disadvantaged... I mean a 1st world country government helping out people is just awful....


And these are bad?


I mean a disagree how the system was done and how the CEO's spent that money. But i mean "those outrageous union salleries" are just causing all the problems... I mean GM head CEO even said that the salaries were not the problem in the fail of GM...


Done by a "conservative".


I mean these "handouts" are awful right?
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when we "handout" ourself into insolvency who is going to come to our rescue and give us a handout?
 
OscarB63 said:
when we "handout" ourself into insolvency who is going to come to our rescue and give us a handout?
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lefties find it easy to be generous with other peoples' money and of course then then take the credit for being generous
 
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