10 best and 10 worst states to work and live in

[Hari Seldon]

9% inflation and disappearing home insurance companies exacerbating the cost of getting a house can't help Florida much either.

True. Much of that inflation is the housing market. I've been trying to figure out where to retire. Lancaster PA got great marks. Tough decision ahead.

 

[poweRob]

True. Much of that inflation is the housing market. I've been trying to figure out where to retire. Lancaster PA got great marks. Tough decision ahead.

That's actually where an uncle of mine retired. Never been there myself though. Florida is also having supply issues with gas that is jacking up transportation costs and by proxy, everything that is transported.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Anyone see what I see? I'd state it but it's just so obvious.

These are America’s 10 best states to live and work in for 2023, and there are some notable omissions

Americans often choose where to build their families, homes and businesses based on quality of life. These 10 states are the nation's best.

www.cnbc.com

These are America’s 10 worst states to live and work in for 2023, and there's a big surprise at the very bottom

Quality of life is a major factor in where Americans choose to work, live and make major purchases including homes. These states are the nation's worst.

www.cnbc.com

Don't believe there was much bias in these picks do you? LOL!!!! Pure liberal BS here.

 

[Hari Seldon]

That's actually where an uncle of mine retired. Never been there myself though. Florida is also having supply issues with gas that is jacking up transportation costs and by proxy, everything that is transported.

I've been there, it's Amish country also near Hershey where I attended many a son and daughter soccer tournament. My grandparents retired to Floriduh. Fort Liqourdale as they called it back in the day. At least that's what my cousins said who also lived there.

 

[Liberal7360]

I'm retired and have stayed right where I love, my home state.

I'm now thinking of getting a place somewhere warm like Nevada to live from January to May. It will only be for 4 months out of the year so I'll get one of these tiny houses. It's all I need for that little time.

Then come right back home when the weather gets warm here.

 

[vanceen]

There are objective criteria for determining best and worst places to live.

“The Best States rankings by U.S. News draw on thousands of data points to measure how well states are performing for their citizens. In addition to health care and education, the rankings take into account a state’s economy; its roads, bridges, internet and other infrastructure; its public safety; its natural environment; the fiscal stability of state government; and the opportunity it affords its residents.

More weight was accorded to some categories than others, based on a survey of what matters most to people. Health care and education were weighted most heavily. Then came state economies, infrastructure, and the opportunity states offer their citizens. Fiscal stability followed closely in weighting, followed by measures of crime and corrections and a state's natural environment.”

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

No.

The criteria might be objective, or (more precisely) quantitative. But by the nature of the adjectives, "best" and "worst" are not objective. They will depend very much on the individual and their situation.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Yea it's pretty much bullshit. Aging population looking for warmer climates. Home prices soaring in the northeast although Floriduh is up over 40% which is driving retirees to Alabama and the like. Let's see how the water situation and ungodly heat unfolds in the west. If it wasn't for the winters I would gladly stay in NY. Finger lakes are awesome. Might have to consider a 6 month split. Certainly won't be retiring to a wingnut state.

I was born/raised in FL, but wouldn’t even consider going back.

The only benefits FL has over my adopted home state of VA, is tax savings, which I grudgingly accept as the trade off for living in a much better climate, with lower crime, less crowding (and generally more polite residents), beautiful mountains and beaches within driving distance, and many of our country’s most significant historical sites.

 

[vanceen]

Yea it's pretty much bullshit. Aging population looking for warmer climates. Home prices soaring in the northeast although Floriduh is up over 40% which is driving retirees to Alabama and the like. Let's see how the water situation and ungodly heat unfolds in the west. If it wasn't for the winters I would gladly stay in NY. Finger lakes are awesome. Might have to consider a 6 month split. Certainly won't be retiring to a wingnut state.

The idea of a split location is very appealing.

I'd like to live back in England from mid-May to the end of September, and then come back to Texas for the rest of the year.

Hardly practical though.

 

[poweRob]

I've been there, it's Amish country also near Hershey where I attended many a son and daughter soccer tournament. My grandparents retired to Floriduh. Fort Liqourdale as they called it back in the day. At least that's what my cousins said who also lived there.

I grew up 2 miles north of Floriduh and spent much time down there. My family however is out of Maryland and central Pennsylvania.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

No.

Yes.

The criteria might be objective, or (more precisely) quantitative. But by the nature of the adjectives, "best" and "worst" are not objective. They will depend very much on the individual and their situation.

“Quantitative” is an objective measurement.

The article defines “best” and “worst” based on identified criteria.

 

[Hari Seldon]

I was born/raised in FL, but wouldn’t even consider going back.

The only benefits FL has over my adopted home state of VA, is tax savings, which I grudgingly accept as the trade off for living in a much better climate, with lower crime, less crowding (and generally more polite residents), beautiful mountains and beaches within driving distance, and many of our country’s most significant historical sites.

I've been looking there as well. Norfolk, Roanoke. We vacationed in Massanutten. Really nice. I think it was the Jefferson national park we drove through. Definitely considering.

 

[vanceen]

Yes.

“Quantitative” is an objective measurement.

The article defines “best” and “worst” based on identified criteria.

"Best" and "worst", in the context of the quality of a place to live, is not subject to objective measurement. That's because in part it is a subjective judgement, and in part because the importance of any criterion will be very different for different people.

You can choose to apply a set of criteria and call something "best" or "worst" on that basis. But it's an arbitrary and non-objective application of those words. Just because someplace comes out well based on a set of criteria chosen by someone who writes an article doesn't mean it's a good place to live for me, you, or any random individual you may choose.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

"Best" and "worst", in the context of the quality of a place to live, is not subject to objective measurement. That's because in part it is a subjective judgement, and in part because the importance of any criterion will be very different for different people.

You can choose to apply a set of criteria and call something "best" or "worst" on that basis. But it's an arbitrary and non-objective application of those words. Just because someplace comes out well based on a set of criteria chosen by someone who writes an article doesn't mean it's a good place to live for me, you, or any random individual you may choose.

If you reread what I have posted, you will that we are actually not in disagreement.

The (objective) facts included in the article are the facts.

The author’s choice of criteria establishing “best” and “worst” is the subjective part.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

I've been looking there as well. Norfolk, Roanoke. We vacationed in Massanutten. Really nice. I think it was the Jefferson national park we drove through. Definitely considering.

There are lots of great places in VA to settle. We originally came to Virginia while I was still serving in the Navy (Norfolk), and bought our home in Virginia Beach.

 

[JMB1911A1]

There are lots of great places in VA to settle. We originally came to Virginia while I was still serving in the Navy (Norfolk), and bought our home in Virginia Beach.

No dogs or sailors on the grass. Spent two years at Little Creek and a year at NS Norfolk, retiring out of NS. Still like to call it the NOB.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

No dogs or sailors on the grass. Spent two years at Little Creek and a year at NS Norfolk, retiring out of NS. Still like to call it the NOB.

I saw a couple of those signs back in the early 80’s when I was stationed in Charleston. Talk about unfriendly locals.

Did the last about 8 years in Norfolk (NOB). Two ships and a twilight tour on base.

 

[JMB1911A1]

I saw a couple of those signs back in the early 80’s when I was stationed in Charleston. Talk about unfriendly locals.

Did the last about 8 years in Norfolk (NOB). Two ships and a twilight tour on base.

Liked the area but downtown Norfolk was a crap hole. VB is better but I preferred Pungo area. Love the Military Aircraft Museum out there. Last time there, got to see the Skyraider take off, before that, the P-51 Mustang.

 

[beefheart]

Anyone see what I see? I'd state it but it's just so obvious.

These are America’s 10 best states to live and work in for 2023, and there are some notable omissions

Americans often choose where to build their families, homes and businesses based on quality of life. These 10 states are the nation's best.

www.cnbc.com

These are America’s 10 worst states to live and work in for 2023, and there's a big surprise at the very bottom

Quality of life is a major factor in where Americans choose to work, live and make major purchases including homes. These states are the nation's worst.

www.cnbc.com

No surprises on either side. Texas is a hell hole.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Liked the area but downtown Norfolk was a crap hole. VB is better but I preferred Pungo area. Love the Military Aircraft Museum out there. Last time there, got to see the Skyraider take off, before that, the P-51 Mustang.

Norfolk has some very nice historic neighborhoods with good restaurants and moderately expensive boutique shops, but yeah, other than those areas, we don’t go to Norfolk.

Va Beach is much nicer/family friendly, and even with traffic I could usually make the 20 mile commute to NOB in less than 30 minutes (timing is everything).

Pungo is just a few miles down the road. Still mostly country/farm land.

 

[dseag2]

We are gay Democrats who live in Dallas and love it. Our neighborhood has mostly straight and a few gay couples. Everyone is friendly and we get together from time to time. I retired early and my partner works for a non-profit organization that benefits victims of domestic abuse. No complaints here. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Clearly depends on where you are in your life.

 

[dseag2]

No surprises on either side. Texas is a hell hole.

Wow, just wow.

 

[Geoist]

The best states for business are the states where they can get away with paying their employees the least.

And have to follow as few safety regulations as possible. But leave it up to Republicans to think that what is 'best' for businesses is also what's best for average Americans. That's why they get duped into supporting self-destructive policies.

 

[NWRatCon]

Anyone see what I see? I'd state it but it's just so obvious.

These are America’s 10 best states to live and work in for 2023, and there are some notable omissions

Americans often choose where to build their families, homes and businesses based on quality of life. These 10 states are the nation's best.

www.cnbc.com

These are America’s 10 worst states to live and work in for 2023, and there's a big surprise at the very bottom

Quality of life is a major factor in where Americans choose to work, live and make major purchases including homes. These states are the nation's worst.

www.cnbc.com

Beat me to the post, again. It's hard not to note that the same "worst" States are the same red States that make the list every year, although Florida may be a new(er) addition.

My home State has been in the top 10 as long as I've lived here - over 30 years

 

[NWRatCon]

Nothing surprising here.

My state is always on the list of best states in just about every category.

Nine out of ten of the best ones are blue with one, Maine, being purple.

All ten of the worst states are red.

The only surprise to me was I didn't see Mississippi and Alabama on the worst list.

Are they still States?

 

[Geoist]

Beau of the Fifth Column just released a video on this: