“Unthinkable”: Camp Mystic parents condemn reopening plans after devastating floods

[Phys251]

“Unthinkable”: Camp Mystic parents condemn reopening plans after devastating floods

The family of the only girl who remains missing after the July 4 flood wants a halt to all discussions of reopening and memorials to the 27 campers and staff who were killed.

www.texastribune.org

"To promote reopening less than three months after the tragedy — while one camper remains missing — is unthinkable," wrote CiCi and Will Steward, whose 8-year-old daughter Cile Steward has not been found. "Our families remain trapped in the deepest throes of grief, yet your communications treat our never-ending nightmare as little more than a brief pause before resuming business as usual."

Jesus. Are they gonna rebuild in the flood zones where the campers were killed??

 

[BirdinHand]

Of course they’ll put it right back there.

they’ll be open again by spring.

And people will send their kids there.

Americans are stupid.

 

[RF667799]

“Unthinkable”: Camp Mystic parents condemn reopening plans after devastating floods

The family of the only girl who remains missing after the July 4 flood wants a halt to all discussions of reopening and memorials to the 27 campers and staff who were killed.

www.texastribune.org

Jesus. Are they gonna rebuild in the flood zones where the campers were killed??

Of course they’ll put it right back there.

they’ll be open again by spring.

And people will send their kids there.

Americans are stupid.

You should both read the article.

 

[mrjurrs]

“Unthinkable”: Camp Mystic parents condemn reopening plans after devastating floods

The family of the only girl who remains missing after the July 4 flood wants a halt to all discussions of reopening and memorials to the 27 campers and staff who were killed.

www.texastribune.org

Jesus. Are they gonna rebuild in the flood zones where the campers were killed??

New rules will prevent that, but in the words of one mother...they'll be swimming in the same river that still has the body of my daughter.

It's screwed up that they can't wait until the first anniversary has past.

 

[Integrityrespec]

“Unthinkable”: Camp Mystic parents condemn reopening plans after devastating floods

The family of the only girl who remains missing after the July 4 flood wants a halt to all discussions of reopening and memorials to the 27 campers and staff who were killed.

www.texastribune.org

Jesus. Are they gonna rebuild in the flood zones where the campers were killed??

I feel for the parents. I have children who have children and I can't imagine having to deal with the loss of a child or a grandchild. Realistically, that camp is most likely going to open. The conditions under which it does reopen are important. Obviously the position of the cabins should be moved to higher ground. I don't know if the area allows for that or not. If it doesn't then reopening is a real issue. Looking at the flood plain history is also a must. The structures need to be outside of the historic flood area. Once done, and not until then should the camp reopen.

 

[RF667799]

New rules will prevent that, but in the words of one mother...they'll be swimming in the same river that still has the body of my daughter.

It's screwed up that they can't wait until the first anniversary has past.

If everyone had to wait a year after a drowning to utilize the Mississippi for recreation, it would severely restrict recreational opportunities on the Mississippi River.

There was a guy missing in the river near here for a couple months this summer. By the time they found him, the decomposition was such they couldn't identify him from dental records. The sandbars were still packed every weekend, and water sports continued apace.

 

[mrjurrs]

If everyone had to wait a year after a drowning to utilize the Mississippi for recreation, it would severely restrict recreational opportunities on the Mississippi River.

There was a guy missing in the river near here for a couple months this summer. By the time they found him, the decomposition was such they couldn't identify him from dental records. The sandbars were still packed every weekend, and water sports continued apace.

This is not recreational use, this is a for profit business that cut corners on little kids safety and 27 drowned.

If individuals go swimming I've got no issue. If you just want to prop up a revenue stream...I do.

 

[BirdinHand]

You should both read the article.

Read it.

They’re going to put the camp back in the flood plain.

Just move the cabins a bit.

And plan to have it open for the 2026 season.

Over the objection of the families of the dead and still missing camper.

Because they do not care. It’s all about $$$

 

[RF667799]

Read it.

They’re going to put the camp back in the flood plain.

Quote that.

Just move the cabins a bit.

Which could result in them being out of the hazardous area.

And plan to have it open for the 2026 season.

Over the objection of the families of the dead and still missing camper.

They don't get to decide, anymore than a bereaved family of a traffic fatality gets to decide to close a highway.

Because they do not care. It’s all about $$$

 

[phoenix2020]

I don't see the big deal. Local parents were fine sending young girls into a flood plain that had surged before, and that had drowned children before, so they'll just go back to doing it again. The crux of the matter here is that if parents do not want to see their family lineage removed from the gene pool, then they need to not put their children in harm's way.

 

[Grogu]

I don't see the big deal. Local parents were fine sending young girls into a flood plain that had surged before, and that had drowned children before, so they'll just go back to doing it again. The crux of the matter here is that if parents do not want to see their family lineage removed from the gene pool, then they need to not put their children in harm's way.

Actually, the crux of the matter is making plans to reopen while there is still one 8-year-old girl’s body who has not been recovered. If you put yourself in the parent’s shoes, no matter the reason their daughter was there in the first place at the time of the flash floods, then making these plans comes off as an insensitive and cruel act.

Find the body first. That should be the only effort taking place at this time.

 

[RF667799]

Actually, the crux of the matter is making plans to reopen while there is still one 8-year-old girl’s body who has not been recovered. If you put yourself in the parent’s shoes, no matter the reason their daughter was there in the first place at the time of the flash floods, then making these plans comes off as an insensitive and cruel act.

Find the body first. That should be the only effort taking place at this time.

Should the Mississippi River be closed to recreation as long as anyone is missing?

 

[RF667799]

I don't see the big deal. Local parents were fine sending young girls into a flood plain that had surged before, and that had drowned children before, so they'll just go back to doing it again. The crux of the matter here is that if parents do not want to see their family lineage removed from the gene pool, then they need to not put their children in harm's way.

Parents are fine allowing their children to ride motorcycles even though children have died riding motorcycles.

So you're right. It's not generally considered a big deal except for those extremely risk averse or emotionally over-wrought.

 

[Safiel]

They may never find the body.

It has been a long time. Decomposition has occurred and scavengers may have had at the remains.

There may not even be a body to recover at this point.

 

[RF667799]

They may never find the body.

It has been a long time. Decomposition has occurred and scavengers may have had at the remains.

There may not even be a body to recover at this point.

Quoted for truth.

 

[Pyrite]

“Unthinkable”: Camp Mystic parents condemn reopening plans after devastating floods

The family of the only girl who remains missing after the July 4 flood wants a halt to all discussions of reopening and memorials to the 27 campers and staff who were killed.

www.texastribune.org

Jesus. Are they gonna rebuild in the flood zones where the campers were killed??

Are the sirens in place, and up and running?

 

[Grogu]

Should the Mississippi River be closed to recreation as long as anyone is missing?

You can at least make a feeble attempt to stay on the subject here. Is that too difficult of a task for you? This isn’t about the Mississippi River, so why bring it up? Is it your only point of reference in order for you to try to relate to the subject at hand and argue with others?

This is about the rush to reopen Camp Mystic where there’s still one little girl’s body not recovered. Good grief…

 

[RF667799]

You can at least make a feeble attempt to stay on the subject here. Is that too difficult of a task for you? This isn’t about the Mississippi River, so why bring it up? Is it your only point of reference in order for you to try to relate to the subject at hand and argue with others?

This is about the rush to reopen Camp Mystic where there’s still one little girl’s body not recovered. Good grief…

Just seeing if you had a consistent principle or a convenient opinion. That being that rivers should be closed to recreational activities until any drowning victims have been recovered.

Now I know. It's just an opinion of convenience.

BTW, it's doubtful the body would be found at Camp Mystic. (If there's anything left to find.) Drowning casualties in rivers are generally found downstream.

 

[Phys251]

Are the sirens in place, and up and running?

Good question. I don't know the answer. Texas seems to place more emphasis on extreme gerrymandering than keeping its citizens safe.

 

[StillBallin75]

They thought a Christian summer camp actually cared more about people than money?

 

[Luce]

“Unthinkable”: Camp Mystic parents condemn reopening plans after devastating floods

The family of the only girl who remains missing after the July 4 flood wants a halt to all discussions of reopening and memorials to the 27 campers and staff who were killed.

www.texastribune.org

Jesus. Are they gonna rebuild in the flood zones where the campers were killed??

So much for Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

 

[Luce]

Just seeing if you had a consistent principle or a convenient opinion. That being that rivers should be closed to recreational activities until any drowning victims have been recovered.

Now I know. It's just an opinion of convenience.

BTW, it's doubtful the body would be found at Camp Mystic. (If there's anything left to find.) Drowning casualties in rivers are generally found downstream.

This. Even if they're trapped in a building or a car, the scour will haul them out and drag them along with the debris until they look like a pork sausage.

 

[RF667799]

This is not recreational use, this is a for profit business that cut corners on little kids safety and 27 drowned.

If individuals go swimming I've got no issue. If you just want to prop up a revenue stream...I do.

People often pay for recreational activities. Your hostility to revenue is bizarre.