“Trump is a Soviet asset – and my presidency hasn’t gone the way I’d hoped”

[WorldWatcher]

Anything new??

Anyone with an IQ knew Trump was in bed with Putin since 2016

That was a KODAK moment that I really, REALLY didn't need.

WW

 

[lwf]

Once again, given the high level of success of Soviet and Eastern bloc agents in “turning” assets throughout Britain, France, and West Germany, the facts speak for themselves

What percentage of British, French, and West German politicians were successfully turned by Soviet and Eastern bloc agents?

 

[Tigerace117]

What percentage of British, French, and West German politicians were successfully turned by Soviet and Eastern bloc agents?

The president is only one politician. That’s not a very high percentage.

Does that mean him being a foreign agent would be no big deal?

 

[lwf]

The president is only one politician. That’s not a very high percentage.

Does that mean him being a foreign agent would be no big deal?

No, but the low percentage shows that the chances that another NATO country has a compromised leader are miniscule.

 

[hooligan]

Kim Philby and his pals, Willy Brandt’s secretary Gunther Guillaume, the events of the Martel dossier and Farewell dossier…. How many more examples do you want?

Something from this millennium would be nice. Russia isn't the Soviet Union. This is the politics forum, not the history forum.

 

[bomberfox]

Well, we live in the era of unprecedented events.

Here is another: sitting president of a European country has called Donald Trump a Soviet or Russian asset.

I believe that in some sense, but I'm just some Internet forum rando. For a president of an allied country to say that...wow.

Portugal will now get 100% tariffs.

“Trump is a Russian asset - and my presidency hasn’t gone the way I’d hoped”

“Trump is a Soviet asset - and my presidency hasn’t gone the way I’d hoped”; president drops protocol in speech to PSD summer university

www.portugalresident.com

Soviet asset…. Yes an asset of a dead federation… lol…..

 

[Tigerace117]

Something from this millennium would be nice. Russia isn't the Soviet Union. This is the politics forum, not the history forum.

….you are aware of what Vladimir Putin’s background is, and how much power and resources are invested in Russia’s intelligence services….right?

 

[Tigerace117]

No, but the low percentage shows that the chances that another NATO country has a compromised leader are miniscule.

They don’t need to have another leader as an outright agent to be hopelessly compromised. There are plenty of other vital positions lower in line, and if the Russians can get someone into place as president of the U.S., all of those would be far easier to accomplish.

 

[lwf]

They don’t need to have another leader as an outright agent to be hopelessly compromised. There are plenty of other vital positions lower in line, and if the Russians can get someone into place as president of the U.S., all of those would be far easier to accomplish.

Why are you assuming it would be far easier to accomplish?

 

[hooligan]

….you are aware of what Vladimir Putin’s background is, and how much power and resources are invested in Russia’s intelligence services….right?

I am.

 

[Tigerace117]

I am.

So, therefore, the idea that the Russians would be less capable at intelligence work now simply isn’t backed up by the facts

 

[Tigerace117]

Why are you assuming it would be far easier to accomplish?

….because these guys aren’t scrutinized anywhere nearly as heavily as the president of the United States.

 

[Ikari]

Well Trump is a Russian asset.

 

[hooligan]

So, therefore, the idea that the Russians would be less capable at intelligence work now simply isn’t backed up by the facts

Of course it is.

 

[Tigerace117]

Of course it is.

Then you should be able to actually provide that evidence, instead of simply engaging in blind denial.

 

[hooligan]

Then you should be able to actually provide that evidence, instead of simply engaging in blind denial.

Other way around, my dude. You're saying that Russia today, has an equivalent intelligence/espionage capability as the Soviet Union did. The burden of proof is yours, not mine.

 

[Tigerace117]

Other way around, my dude. You're saying that Russia today, has an equivalent intelligence/espionage capability as the Soviet Union did. The burden of proof is yours, not mine.

Which I already have, by pointing out how massively the Russians have invested in their intelligence services.

 

[hooligan]

Which I already have, by pointing out how massively the Russians have invested in their intelligence services.

Wrong. Saying "they spend a lot" is not evidence of anything. What is "massively"? How does that "massively" compare to the expenditures of the Soviet Union for the same things?

 

[j brown's body]

Wrong. Saying "they spend a lot" is not evidence of anything. What is "massively"? How does that "massively" compare to the expenditures of the Soviet Union for the same things?

He often says he has provided proof of something but somehow can't muster it up again.