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‘Threats’ prompt Target stores in US to withdraw some Pride Collection products

Lisa said:
Somebody is MAGA butthurt because LGBT people exist openly.

Is it too early or too obvious to predict that some right wing nutjob will go postal in a Target store in June?
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It doesn't sound like it has anything to do with LGBT people existing openly. No issues the past 10 years or whatever they've done their pride thing.

Cue the introduction of penis pockets in your women's bathing suits and "satan loves pronouns" shirts.

Such items would probably be fine at Spencer's in the mall, but Target? Sure, people are going to complain, or they're going to mock the decision on social media.
 
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MTAtech said:
This is nothing new. Conservatives resist change. They were against freeing the slaves; they were against women getting the vote; they resisted blacks getting civil rights; they were against gay marriage, etc.

My father called liberals progressives and conservatives regressives, because they wanted to go back to a time when white men rules and women were in the kitchen bare foot and pregnant.

Right on cue, Texas Republicans passed this:
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Actually, we want to go back to a time when everybody knew what a woman was and stupidity wasn't thought of as smart.
 
Taylor said:
It doesn't sound like it has anything to do with LGBT people existing openly. No issues the past 10 years or whatever they've done their pride thing.

Cue the introduction of penis pockets in your women's bathing suits and "satan loves pronouns" shirts.

Such items would probably be fine at Spencer's in the mall, but Target? Sure, people are going to complain, or they're going to mock the decision on social media.
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We always come back to the same question that you guys don't want to answer because the answer is hate, but "why care?"
 
Taylor said:
It doesn't sound like it has anything to do with LGBT people existing openly. No issues the past 10 years or whatever they've done their pride thing.

Cue the introduction of penis pockets in your women's bathing suits and "satan loves pronouns" shirts.

Such items would probably be fine at Spencer's in the mall, but Target? Sure, people are going to complain, or they're going to mock the decision on social media.
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Go woke, go broke.
 
it's just me said:
Actually, we want to go back to a time when everybody knew what a woman was and stupidity wasn't thought of as smart.
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Yeah, trying to retreat to the past never works, but tends to cause lots of ugly pain from those who can't accept it.
 
it's just me said:
Actually, we want to go back to a time when everybody knew what a woman was and stupidity wasn't thought of as smart.
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I agree. Back to a time when we appreciated vaccines and their life saving powers.
 
j brown's body said:
We always come back to the same question that you guys don't want to answer because the answer is hate, but "why care?"
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That's the "i'm losing the argument" fall back position. "Why care?"

People think it's funny and absurd that Target would team up with a self-avowed Satanist to design transgender clothing. Do you know how absurd that sounds? How is this good for anyone?

Of course they pulled the items. Someone might be out of a job, too.
 
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jpevans said:
I can't boycott Budweiser, 'cause I never bought it, I can't boycott Target 'cause I never shopped there. Damn... ;)
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Then what are you bitching about?
 
j brown's body said:
"Target has been celebrating Pride Month for more than a decade. But this year’s collection has led to an increase in confrontations between customers and employees and incidents of Pride merchandise being thrown on the floor, Target spokesperson Kayla Castaneda said.

Target’s action comes on the heels of a conservative backlash against Bud Light after brewer Anheuser-Busch promoted the beer on social media with transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney.

While various Pride Collection products were under review, the only ones being immediately removed were the LGBTQ brand Abprallen, which has come under scrutiny for its association with the British designer Eric Carnell.

Carnell has faced social media backlash for designing merchandise with images of pentagrams, horned skulls and other symbols."

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Will our right-wing friends reveling in the hateful backlash towards businesses showing support for the LGBTQ community realize that it promotes threats of violence, and thus have second thought about it?

Probably not. Seems political violence is increasingly acceptable to them.
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Point of fact - not a single threat was reported in the article.

As an example of how shoddy reporting is these days -- the headline of the article says - quote unquote 'Threats' prompt US Target stores to remove some pride collection stuff. Yet, the most important piece of information -- an example of an actual "threat" - is left out of the story.

It cannot be assumed, because we know that the LGBT community will often suggest that merely denying that there are more than two genders is "violence" directed at their community. So, we don't know what they mean by "threat." A threat, in normal English, means that someone has directed a statement of intention to inflict injury on someone. A threat is like "I'm goig to bomb the place" or "I'll kick the shit out of you," or "You better watch out, something might happen to you..." - stuff like that.

How does Target phrase it? They say they received threats (no example given) which "impacted our associates' sense of well-being and safety..." -- well, with all due respect, the LGBT community constantly claims their well-being and safety is impacted - they "feel unsafe" just when people disagree with their ideology. So, I'm not willing to accept the unsupported allegation that threats have been leveled without even seeing an example.

If actual threats were made, wouldn't Target report that to the policy? Wouldn't the threatened emlployees call the cops and make a report? Why not? Are they going to take literal threats like that and NOT seek to protect their employees? If they received threats from customers, have those customers been barred from Target's stores? Who? When? Where? Were these phone calls, rather than in person threats? If they were phone calls, why is there no news report of Target receiving threats over the phone? Why isn't Target asking for local law enforcement to investigate and the FBI local field office to investigate - after all - it would be a "hate crime" with federal jurisdiction.

So -- what are we really talking about here? Customers not liking seeing t-shirts marketed to kids that have devil horns, pentagrams and symbols of Satanism on them? That they don't want "trans" messaging on kids' t-shirts and they are making their objections known? Isn't that probably what is happening here?
 
JRTurner said:
I work in retail so I understand how aggressive unhappy customers can be.

I can't imagine the hostility that has fomented in this country to create what are so-called Christian American patriots to behave worse than I would allow my child to behave in a store. All these adults behaving like spoiled children, believing they have a right to be disrespectful because they are bigots--they should be ashamed.
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You work in retail? That explains a lot.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Evil is knowing the difference between right and wrong, and choosing wrong. It's that simple. What is Trump, or more broadly right-wing populism, other than the voice telling you that it's perfectly fine to listen to your darker impulses? In other words, the devil on your shoulder defeating the angel.

As I said in another thread, the social media of Ashley Babbitt is that of someone who once supported Obama and modelled her life on the Big Lebowski. The rise of Trump enabled her to explore other avenues. Evil is submitting to what you know is wrong, and violates the rights and humanity another person or group of people, to satisfy yourself.
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lol.. trying to make politics about "evil" is utterly misguided.
Im not even going to critique this otherwise in the guise of Trump is evil or whatever you are saying
 
OrphanSlug said:
It would be nice if we could all just be a little more nicer about these things, and of course take the conversation away from politicians making this entirely worse.
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Can't we just keep this stuff away from the children's merchandise?
 
j brown's body said:
Don't kid yourself, you are just creating more allies for LGBTQ community with your hatred and threats of violence.
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And we can stop with the "LGBTQ community" nonsense as if there's some monolith of support (pun intended) for mainstreaming penis pockets in women's bathing suits.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
You MAGA's refused to accept that when some idiot muttered it on the liberal side.
In fact, it became your "Remember the Alamo!" battle cry for over two years, so much so that I almost wish I could have PISSED on The Alamo as a retort.

So live with it, because your bunch have proven to be snowflakes much more so than the Dems.
Republicans want to defund police, FBI, CIA, DoJ and Dept of Education, as well as the VA.
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So a Democrat(s) says it, and then you go on to attribute it to the Republicans?

How exactly does that work?
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
LOL. No person with a functioning brain believes that.
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They have willing allies in the media that sell BS propaganda like "the BLM violence was committed by the right" as if we did not see the year long riots with our own eyes, FFS.
 
Taylor said:
Yup.

Bud Light wanted to market to all. Instead, it’s alienating everyone​


With "Satan Loves Transpeople" I think we're back to alienating everyone. Where do companies hire these clowns to do their marketing? I say that here, because the only reason to do these speciality clothing promotions is to flash their woke credentials.
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"Satan Loves Transpeople"
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rofl.. a sure fire way to mess up your brand. alienate MS middle America over a lunatic ad campaign
 
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