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CLAX1911 said:
Yeah that's for your slaves to do. I'm not offended I'm just surprised that you would think illegal aliens are for picking your vegetables maybe cleaning your toilets.

What would be the benefit of hiring illegals. Underpay them, abuse them treat them like garbage. And they can't do shit about it because what are they going to do go to the authorities and get deported.

How is this not human trafficking?

That wasn't an argument I was just pointing out the way you see illegal aliens they're your servants you said it not me.

So you're incompetent.

I'm sorry you support human trafficking and don't even know it. The first step would be get a clue.

The first clue should be people we could abuse do the jobs that nobody else will do because they are trafficked
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I assume you purchase items manufactured in China, right? You buy those items because they're generally less expensive, or you can't find the same item produced in the U.S., right? Chinese factory workers earn approximately 20 to 30 Chinese Yuan per hour, which equates to about $3 to $4.50 U.S. However, Chinese workers don't get paid by the hour, they usually get paid once a month. Whether a worker has worked 120, 160 or more hours, they will be paid their salary.

Would you consider yourself a human trafficker since you purchase, and use items, made by humans that you consider, slaves? Does the fact that these laborers are in China and not the U.S. that you believe would absolve you of any responsibility for humans being abused, underpaid and overworked?

Personally, I hire immigrants to do work for me. I don't specifically look for an immigrant when I need a job done, I put the word out, I get calls back and receive quotes for the job. A man from Mexico cuts my lawn each week, and two women from Brazil clean my home once a month. An immigrant from Greece just repaired a broken wrought iron railing that was destroyed years ago during a storm, and a man from Albania is scheduled to sand and repaint the entire 25+ feet of wrought iron railing. A man from Ecuador just installed new ceiling lights in my garage. I love my lawn guy, and the women that come once a month, for the simple fact that they're respectful, reliable, affordable and most importantly, trustworthy.

Here's what I've found, and I'm not claiming that I just 'got lucky' by finding good people. This is the norm with immigrants. They show up for work on time, they don't overcharge for the work, they complete the job quickly, and jobs are always completed with results that satisfy me.
 
gbg3 said:
Please provide a source which quotes this specific pledge you've described here.
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Everybody heard him say exactly that both in his oval office presser and in the speech at Fort Bragg.
 
HumblePi said:
I assume you purchase items manufactured in China, right? You buy those items because they're generally less expensive, or you can't find the same item produced in the U.S., right? Chinese factory workers earn approximately 20 to 30 Chinese Yuan per hour, which equates to about $3 to $4.50 U.S. However, Chinese workers don't get paid by the hour, they usually get paid once a month. Whether a worker has worked 120, 160 or more hours, they will be paid their salary.

Would you consider yourself a human trafficker since you purchase, and use items, made by humans that you consider, slaves? Does the fact that these laborers are in China and not the U.S. that you believe would absolve you of any responsibility for humans being abused, underpaid and overworked?

Personally, I hire immigrants to do work for me. I don't specifically look for an immigrant when I need a job done, I put the word out, I get calls back and receive quotes for the job. A man from Mexico cuts my lawn each week, and two women from Brazil clean my home once a month. An immigrant from Greece just repaired a broken wrought iron railing that was destroyed years ago during a storm, and a man from Albania is scheduled to sand and repaint the entire 25+ feet of wrought iron railing. A man from Ecuador just installed new ceiling lights in my garage. I love my lawn guy, and the women that come once a month, for the simple fact that they're respectful, reliable, affordable and most importantly, trustworthy.

Here's what I've found, and I'm not claiming that I just 'got lucky' by finding good people. This is the norm with immigrants. They show up for work on time, they don't overcharge for the work, they complete the job quickly, and jobs are always completed with results that satisfy me.
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Immigrants have legal status they weren't brought here by Coyotes. And no buying things from China is not like hiring people brought here by Coyotes.

Illegal Indians are not immigrants.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Immigrants have legal status they weren't brought here by Coyotes. And no buying things from China is not like hiring people brought here by Coyotes.

Illegal Indians are not immigrants.
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The equating of Chinese workers in China to undocumented workers working in the U.S. had nothing to do with what you buy or not from China. The premise is based on the similar situation of these workers, who work long hours for little pay and have no rights.
 
HumblePi said:
The equating of Chinese workers in China to undocumented workers working in the U.S. had nothing to do with what you buy or not from China.
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And it has nothing to do with importing slaves to do jobs that you think are beneath you.
HumblePi said:
The premise is based on the similar situation of these workers, who work long hours for little pay and have no rights.
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One requires a slave trade and human trafficking and the other is an unfortunate situation and a shithole country. Also I try to avoid buying anything made in the factories in Xinjiang.
 
CLAX1911 said:
And it has nothing to do with importing slaves to do jobs that you think are beneath you.

One requires a slave trade and human trafficking and the other is an unfortunate situation and a shithole country. Also I try to avoid buying anything made in the factories in Xinjiang.
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But yet you will take advantage of the end results of slave labor, don’t you?
 
CLAX1911 said:
I support total ban on products made in Xinjiang or China as a whole.
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Go shopping and see how many items you can buy there that are not made in China, Indonesia or Taiwan.
 
CLAX1911 said:
And it has nothing to do with importing slaves to do jobs that you think are beneath you.

One requires a slave trade and human trafficking and the other is an unfortunate situation and a shithole country. Also I try to avoid buying anything made in the factories in Xinjiang.
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You have no way to determine if a Chinese product was manufactured in Xinjiang. But do the other Chinese provinces and other foreign countries such as Sri Lanka and Viet Nam meet your labor treatment approval? You must have a large research department to ensure that you only buy goods from the factories that meet your high standards of labor treatment.
 
CLAX1911 said:
You think there are slaves in Indonesia and Taiwan
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You think that illegal immigrant labor is the result of human trafficking. Human trafficking involves force and coercion. This doesn’t apply to all illegal immigrant labor. Being taken advantage of is not equal to force and coercion. This happens in legal labor as well. It could just be lower pay and no benefits. Those things are not acts of coercion.

oag.ca.gov

What is Human Trafficking?

Human trafficking, also known as trafficking in persons or modern-day slavery, is a crime that involves compelling or coercing a person to provide labor or services, or to engage in commercial sex acts. The coercion can be subtle or overt, physical or psychological, and may involve the use of...
oag.ca.gov oag.ca.gov
 
CLAX1911 said:
Immigrants have legal status they weren't brought here by Coyotes. And no buying things from China is not like hiring people brought here by Coyotes.

Illegal Indians are not immigrants.
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You don’t know their status nor does the person who said he contracted them…nor is it your or his business. You likely don’t do any type of real tough work…you sit on your butt and complain but are not willing to do the work they do
 
ClaraD said:
You don’t know their status nor does the person who said he contracted them…nor is it your or his business.
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Incorrect it is my business.
ClaraD said:
You likely don’t do any type of real tough work…you sit on your butt and complain but are not willing to do the work they do
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I've done skilled labor work my whole life. I worked as a mechanic and in the construction industry.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Immigrants have legal status they weren't brought here by Coyotes. And no buying things from China is not like hiring people brought here by Coyotes.

Illegal Indians are not immigrants.
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Illegal Indians?

What the **** is that? An India born national in the country illegally or an descendant of a Native American from whom you stole the land?
 
CLAX1911 said:
Sanctioned by the government like it is in China?
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You have some evidence to back up that fear-driven bullshit?

If there is ignorance in the world regarding China, it is awash in the Excited States. Americans get everything WRONG about China. Your "Chinese Food" isn't even Chinese, it's mostly from American with Asian spices originating in San Fransisco.


Doh Je lais bong mah
 
Fearandloathing said:
You have some evidence to back up that fear-driven bullshit?
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You mean evidence that I don't brown nose China.
Fearandloathing said:
If there is ignorance in the world regarding China, it is awash in the Excited States.
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I know people that have lived there and they witnessed it first hand.
Fearandloathing said:
Americans get everything WRONG about China.
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Where are you getting your information?
Fearandloathing said:
Your "Chinese Food" isn't even Chinese, it's mostly from American with Asian spices originating in San Fransisco.
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Yeah in the US you don't eat the three screams or eggs boiled in urine.
Fearandloathing said:
Doh Je lais bong mah
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I understand very little Chinese.
 
AConcernedCitizen said:
Most traffic violations are civil infractions, not misdemeanors, and not criminal offenses. You could have just typed "is speeding a criminal offense?" into the search engine of your choice before posting, and spared yourself this embarrassing display of ignorance.
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Depends on the state. In my state of Texas, speeding is a class C misdemeanor.
 
Linuxcooldude said:
Depends on the state. In my state of Texas, speeding is a class C misdemeanor.
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He is mistaken traffic violations are criminal. When you get a traffic citation the police officer writing it makes you sign the back of it and that's a promise that you will show up in court. If you refuse to sign that they will arrest you.

Typically civil law is handled by process servers not necessarily please.
 
HumblePi said:
I assume you purchase items manufactured in China, right? You buy those items because they're generally less expensive, or you can't find the same item produced in the U.S., right? Chinese factory workers earn approximately 20 to 30 Chinese Yuan per hour, which equates to about $3 to $4.50 U.S. However, Chinese workers don't get paid by the hour, they usually get paid once a month. Whether a worker has worked 120, 160 or more hours, they will be paid their salary.

Would you consider yourself a human trafficker since you purchase, and use items, made by humans that you consider, slaves? Does the fact that these laborers are in China and not the U.S. that you believe would absolve you of any responsibility for humans being abused, underpaid and overworked?

Personally, I hire immigrants to do work for me. I don't specifically look for an immigrant when I need a job done, I put the word out, I get calls back and receive quotes for the job. A man from Mexico cuts my lawn each week, and two women from Brazil clean my home once a month. An immigrant from Greece just repaired a broken wrought iron railing that was destroyed years ago during a storm, and a man from Albania is scheduled to sand and repaint the entire 25+ feet of wrought iron railing. A man from Ecuador just installed new ceiling lights in my garage. I love my lawn guy, and the women that come once a month, for the simple fact that they're respectful, reliable, affordable and most importantly, trustworthy.

Here's what I've found, and I'm not claiming that I just 'got lucky' by finding good people. This is the norm with immigrants. They show up for work on time, they don't overcharge for the work, they complete the job quickly, and jobs are always completed with results that satisfy me.
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I generally don't consider the politics of the host country of what I'm buying.

If I did there would be NO American content.

The USA is NOT Canada's friend. Since Trump I feel we are more enemies than friends.

Where Canadians used to brag about getting good prices in the US, they now keep secret IF they even cross.

When Trump said "51st state" Canada collectively said "**** you" and we have been developing devilish ways to accomplish that.

Last week read an item from an American came to BC for a holiday. Left angry after 48 hours. His Lexus was badly scratched.

Good.
 
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