I mean... it IS Israel's capital, Trump didn't "make it" it's capital... and I side with Israel against countries/people who are trying to take it's sovereignty away.
‘It’s catastrophic’: U.S. allies reject Trump’s Jerusalem pronouncement
Ahead of Trump's pronouncement, close U.S. allies such as Britain, France and Germany had criticized him and questioned the wisdom of such a move. German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel said Tuesday that the pursuit of such policies by the Trump administration is why traditional U.S.-European ties have started to “crumble.”
“We all know the far-reaching impact this move would have,” Gabriel said. “Germany’s position on this issue remains unchanged: A solution to the Jerusalem problem can only be found through direct negotiations between both parties. Everything which worsens the crisis is counterproductive.”
In Russia, the Kremlin also joined the list of nations fearing that such a move will exacerbate tensions between Israel and Palestinians, saying that the situation could worsen as a result. It was one of the few times a Kremlin foreign policy goal has converged with that of most NATO member states.Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said the U.S. plan is “unlawful” and could have “irreversible consequences” in the region.
So, looks like Trump managed to unite the whole damn world against us this time.
I can't think of anything more likely to cause attacks than recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol or Israel.The only group that will happy with this is religious fanatics - including evangelicals around the world and right wing Israelis. I can't think of any group in the US who benefits by this other than the 'end is nigh' crowd pushing for the 3rd temple. What possible reason could he have for making this decision?
Right now I am betting a reversal will come - because this is ridiculous.
‘It’s catastrophic’: U.S. allies reject Trump’s Jerusalem pronouncement
Ahead of Trump's pronouncement, close U.S. allies such as Britain, France and Germany had criticized him and questioned the wisdom of such a move. German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel said Tuesday that the pursuit of such policies by the Trump administration is why traditional U.S.-European ties have started to “crumble.”
“We all know the far-reaching impact this move would have,” Gabriel said. “Germany’s position on this issue remains unchanged: A solution to the Jerusalem problem can only be found through direct negotiations between both parties. Everything which worsens the crisis is counterproductive.”
In Russia, the Kremlin also joined the list of nations fearing that such a move will exacerbate tensions between Israel and Palestinians, saying that the situation could worsen as a result. It was one of the few times a Kremlin foreign policy goal has converged with that of most NATO member states.Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said the U.S. plan is “unlawful” and could have “irreversible consequences” in the region.
So, looks like Trump managed to unite the whole damn world against us this time.
I can't think of anything more likely to cause attacks than recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol or Israel.The only group that will happy with this is religious fanatics - including evangelicals around the world and right wing Israelis. I can't think of any group in the US who benefits by this other than the 'end is nigh' crowd pushing for the 3rd temple. What possible reason could he have for making this decision?
Right now I am betting a reversal will come - because this is ridiculous.
And the rest of the world be damned?
I believe Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state. That's not the issue here. Jews have lived in Israel since before the Roman Empire - they didn't all disappear. Yes, there were Palestinian Jews.
However, the disposition of Jerusalem has been under negotiation in all sorts of international forums - both geopolitical and religious. What is the point of making a decision like this when he knows it's gonna upset far more then an apple cart?
Israel allows that Palestine has a right to exist. The Palestinians have never allowed that Israel has a right to exist. Palestinians are not now and have never been invested in peace. Turkey under Erdogan and other extremist states like Iran have forever vowed to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Its never a question of if but when tensions will continue to escalate. Meanwhile, just this last week, the UK uncovered plots by fundamentalist Muslims to kill both Teresa May and the 4 year old Prince George. The people y'all are bent on appeasing are still actively murdering people across the planet.
Your appeasement isnt working.
Because it is the right decision, because there shouldn't need to be "negotiation" for the ownership of Jerusalem, any more than there should be for Mecca, Vatican City, or any other place other races, cultures, and religions claim as wholly their own.
Jerusalem is their city, the city of their culture, religion, and people. It is their capital and always has been for more than a thousand years...even when they were forced to leave it time and again, conqueror after conqueror, occupier after occupier.
Funny how people on the left of every other argument, claiming this group, or that belief system deserves reparations, etc., fudge on this one.
Apparently everyone is deserving it seems...except the Jews. They have to negotiate for what is and has always been uniquely theirs.
Really?
Jerusalem is not their city. It does not legally belong to them. Just because they stole it doesn't mean legal ownership is transferred to them.
‘It’s catastrophic’: U.S. allies reject Trump’s Jerusalem pronouncement
Ahead of Trump's pronouncement, close U.S. allies such as Britain, France and Germany had criticized him and questioned the wisdom of such a move. German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel said Tuesday that the pursuit of such policies by the Trump administration is why traditional U.S.-European ties have started to “crumble.”
“We all know the far-reaching impact this move would have,” Gabriel said. “Germany’s position on this issue remains unchanged: A solution to the Jerusalem problem can only be found through direct negotiations between both parties. Everything which worsens the crisis is counterproductive.”
In Russia, the Kremlin also joined the list of nations fearing that such a move will exacerbate tensions between Israel and Palestinians, saying that the situation could worsen as a result. It was one of the few times a Kremlin foreign policy goal has converged with that of most NATO member states.Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said the U.S. plan is “unlawful” and could have “irreversible consequences” in the region.
So, looks like Trump managed to unite the whole damn world against us this time.
I can't think of anything more likely to cause attacks than recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol or Israel.The only group that will happy with this is religious fanatics - including evangelicals around the world and right wing Israelis. I can't think of any group in the US who benefits by this other than the 'end is nigh' crowd pushing for the 3rd temple. What possible reason could he have for making this decision?
Right now I am betting a reversal will come - because this is ridiculous.
Liberated.
Israel allows that Palestine has a right to exist. The Palestinians have never allowed that Israel has a right to exist. Palestinians are not now and have never been invested in peace. Turkey under Erdogan and other extremist states like Iran have forever vowed to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Its never a question of if but when tensions will continue to escalate. Meanwhile, just this last week, the UK uncovered plots by fundamentalist Muslims to kill both Teresa May and the 4 year old Prince George. The people y'all are bent on appeasing are still actively murdering people across the planet.
Your appeasement isnt working.
Israel allows that Palestine has a right to exist. The Palestinians have never allowed that Israel has a right to exist. Palestinians are not now and have never been invested in peace. Turkey under Erdogan and other extremist states like Iran have forever vowed to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Its never a question of if but when tensions will continue to escalate. Meanwhile, just this last week, the UK uncovered plots by fundamentalist Muslims to kill both Teresa May and the 4 year old Prince George. The people y'all are bent on appeasing are still actively murdering people across the planet.
Your appeasement isnt working.
Jerusalem is not their city. It does not legally belong to them. Just because they stole it doesn't mean legal ownership is transferred to them.
Liberated.
"Liberated".
You know, I rather doubt anyone in Jerusalem felt they were in need of "liberation" when they were under Jordanian rule, but hey, religious based land grabs are always good, right?
Wow. Next time you're at work, I'll enter your house and "liberate" your TV and jewellery.
Had you owned my house, TV and jewellery it would make sense yet you never have. Anyway wouldn't recommend it.
They aren’t too concerned that they feel Israel has no right to exist, and kill8ng Jews is cause for celebration.
What have they lost? One more thing to bitch about. And BTW, the democrats were in favor of it during the Obama administration.
Because it is the right decision, because there shouldn't need to be "negotiation" for the ownership of Jerusalem, any more than there should be for Mecca, Vatican City, or any other place other races, cultures, and religions claim as wholly their own.
Jerusalem is their city, the city of their culture, religion, and people. It is their capital and always has been for more than a thousand years...even when they were forced to leave it time and again, conqueror after conqueror, occupier after occupier.
Funny how people on the left of every other argument, claiming this group, or that belief system deserves reparations, etc., fudge on this one.
Apparently everyone is deserving it seems...except the Jews. They have to negotiate for what is and has always been uniquely theirs.
Really?
"Liberated".
You know, I rather doubt anyone in Jerusalem felt they were in need of "liberation" when they were under Jordanian rule, but hey, religious based land grabs are always good, right?
This is a load of bull****. If you ask an Israeli there is no nation of Palestine. It does not exist to them, they do not recognize their rights to self-determination and they actively petition the world not to recognize them. Both have a right to exist, the Israelis do not have a right to total domination over the Palestinians.
Israel hasn't owned Jerusalem for 2,000 years. Modern land ownership disputes should be resolved by the rule of law, not biblical text.
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