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Zimmerman to get "Stand Your Ground" hearing.....developing

Simon W. Moon said:
I didn't say that it was incorrect. I said it wasn't reliable. The article never says that an organization cannot be held liable for it's volunteers. It merely states that an organization can be held responsible for the acts of it's employees. You wrongly inferred from that that someone must be an employee, not a volunteer, before an organization could be held liable for the actions.

I cited FL law in re torts which specifically states that organizations can indeed be held liable for the acts of their volunteers, the wikipedia article notwithstanding.

I guess you missed at post. Would you like me to link to the post where I quote the relevant FL law?
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Well here you go, get out your credit card and post from a 'reliable' source.

http://web2.westlaw.com/signon/default.wl?vr=2.0&fn=_top&rs=WLW12.07&bhcp=1

You can pay by the month or by the case/article.
 
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Excon said:
No they are not.


There you go being ridiculous again. :slapme:
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No one else participated.. GZ was supposed to organize block captains and send their names and phone numbers to Wendy D^^^ something or other. He failed to do so.

George was a one man show.. who tossed the protocols but still wanted to be the head of NW and the hero of the HOA.

According to the Neighborhood Watch Manual produced by USAonwatch.org:

Patrol members should be trained by law enforcement. It should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers and they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles.

They should also be cautioned to alert police or deputies when encountering strange activity.

Members should never confront suspicious persons who could be armed and dangerous.

While Zimmerman was within his legal and constitutional rights to carry a firearm, his actions were far outside the responsibilities of a citizen patrol volunteer.
 
sharon said:
Not my article.. Most NW across the country do not patrol or assign shifts... The message is awareness.. knowing who your neighbors are and reporting to police if you see anything suspicious..

George was the only person on NW..
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There is an element of senility in your constant reposting of the same irrelevant BS. There is also a strong dishonesty in your claiming to have access to sealed documents. You do yourself no favors here.
 
sharon said:
No one else participated.. GZ was supposed to organize block captains and send their names and phone numbers to Wendy D^^^ something or other. He failed to do so.

George was a one man show.. who tossed the protocols but still wanted to be the head of NW and the hero of the HOA.

According to the Neighborhood Watch Manual produced by USAonwatch.org:

Patrol members should be trained by law enforcement. It should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers and they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles.

They should also be cautioned to alert police or deputies when encountering strange activity.

Members should never confront suspicious persons who could be armed and dangerous.

While Zimmerman was within his legal and constitutional rights to carry a firearm, his actions were far outside the responsibilities of a citizen patrol volunteer.
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bolded: the only relevant bit of information in your entire rant.
 
Maenad said:
There is an element of senility in your constant reposting of the same irrelevant BS. There is also a strong dishonesty in your claiming to have access to sealed documents. You do yourself no favors here.
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The documents aren't "sealed".. they are at the end of the second evidence dump..
 
sharon said:
No one else participated.. GZ was supposed to organize block captains and send their names and phone numbers to Wendy D^^^ something or other. He failed to do so.

George was a one man show.. who tossed the protocols but still wanted to be the head of NW and the hero of the HOA.

According to the Neighborhood Watch Manual produced by USAonwatch.org:

Patrol members should be trained by law enforcement. It should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers and they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles.

They should also be cautioned to alert police or deputies when encountering strange activity.

Members should never confront suspicious persons who could be armed and dangerous.

While Zimmerman was within his legal and constitutional rights to carry a firearm, his actions were far outside the responsibilities of a citizen patrol volunteer.
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No citation as usual. Just more made up crap.
 
sharon said:
The documents aren't "sealed".. they are at the end of the second evidence dump..
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apparently if you post irrelevant BS in bold it magically makes it somehow relevant to the issue at hand :lamo
 
sharon said:
The documents aren't "sealed".. they are at the end of the second evidence dump..
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In his six-page order sealing some court documents in June, Lester noted the media scrutiny of the case.

"News stories have been routinely disseminated presenting opinion and rumors as fact. Any person who has logged onto a news website in the last three months has at the least seen a headline relating to the case," he wrote. "As noted, common sense tells this court that the full disclosure of information, as sought by the media interveners, will irreparably harm the ... ability to receive a fair trial."
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Florida prosecutors mistakenly release confidential Zimmerman case documents - CNN
 
sharon said:
George's email communication with the Seminole Sherrif Dept liaison for NW (Wendy Dorivile .. I think that is how its spelled) and his emails to the HOA and other residents are part of that second evidence dump. Links were posted to you several times over the past few days.
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Another blog, and not even an American one at that. You sink ever lower in your quest for a lynching. Ah, now I must go and not wast my vacation day on such as this. I get so few of them in my quest to work to provide your welfare check.
 
Maenad said:
Another blog, and not even an American one at that. You sink ever lower in your quest for a lynching. Ah, now I must go and not wast my vacation day on such as this. I get so few of them in my quest to work to provide your welfare check.
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GZlegal has all the evidence documents..

Welfare?

Your personal attacks and insults say a great deal about you.

I am retired .........
 
Maenad said:
Another blog, and not even an American one at that. You sink ever lower in your quest for a lynching. Ah, now I must go and not wast my vacation day on such as this. I get so few of them in my quest to work to provide your welfare check.
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Yes anyone who does not agree with you 100% is on welfare:roll:
 
sharon said:
GZlegal has all the evidence documents..

Welfare?

Your personal attacks and insults say a great deal about you.

I am retired .........
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This website is operated by the Mark O'Mara PA on behalf of the George Zimmerman Legal Defense Fund. Direct inquiries to 407-898-5151. Principal office 1416 East Concord Street, Orlando, Florida
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Quothe GZLegal! LMAO. OMG! That is SO funny! You forgot to read the small print at the bottom of the page. Retired is it? Did your Exelon patch fall off or something? LMAO.
 
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Maenad said:
Quothe GZLegal! LMAO. OMG! That is SO funny! You forgot to read the small print at the bottom of the page.
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Orlando Sentinel has the same pdf evidence dump.
 
sharon, you have made a complete laughing stock of yourself on this thread.
 
sharon said:
Orlando Sentinel has the same pdf evidence dump.
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The only evidence that matters is what the judge put under lock and key! You are SO funny. I have laughed until my sides hurt!
 
Simon W. Moon said:
ahh. What do you know? It IS a claims made policy

Trayvon Martin insurance claim - Orlando Sentinel
Recent court filings show Trayvon Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, has filed a claim for monetary damages against an insurance company for the Retreat at Twin Lakes homeowners association in her 17-year-old son's death.
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"After the inception of the claims-made policy, Fulton made a claim for monetary damages ..." Travelers says "... as a result of the fatal shooting of Martin."​
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A 'claims made' policy is simply a policy that will pay up to the face amount for the sum of all claims made. An occurrence policy is one that will pay up to the face amount for each and every occurrence. Occurrence policies are rare these days.

They did not insure the HOA on the day that TM was shot. Any claim against the HOA would be paid out of the corporate treasury not individual pockets. Even a judgment against a corporation which pierces the corporate veil only requires that board members pay out of personal assets, not the members. But that is a moot point because the HOA is not going to have to pay anything.
 
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Maenad said:
A 'claims made' policy is simply a policy that will pay up to the face amount for the sum of all claims made. An occurrence policy is one that will pay up to the face amount for each and every occurrence. Occurrence policies are rare these days.

They did not insure the HOA on the day that TM was shot. Any claim against the HOA would be paid out of the corporate treasury not individual pockets. Even a judgment against a corporation which pierces the corporate veil only requires that board members pay out of personal assets, not the members. But that is a moot point because the HOA is not going to have to pay anything.
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Well stated.
 
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