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Zelensky PUTS SCREWS INTO Trump after NEW BETRAYAL

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iguanaman

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Trump's refusal to condemn Russia's brutal attack with 2 ballistic missiles that killed 36 Ukrainians including 7 children on Palm Sunday makes him complicit with the atrocity. We have become part of the axis of evil and the pictures of Witkoff pledging allegiance to the war criminal Putin will live in infamy. I am sickened by this. Our country is lost.

 
Yet you remain in the US, a country you now hate. Since you hate Russia so much too, and seemingly love Ukraine, why not go there and help them defeat Russia and America?
 
iguanaman said:
Trump's refusal to condemn Russia's brutal attack with 2 ballistic missiles that killed 36 Ukrainians including 7 children on Palm Sunday makes him complicit with the atrocity. We have become part of the axis of evil and the pictures of Witkoff pledging allegiance to the war criminal Putin will live in infamy. I am sickened by this. Our country is lost.

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Zelensky isn’t in a position to do any such thing.

Pretty hilarious posturing coming from the guy who thinks it’s a “shame” the Nazis didn’t win in the East, though
 
anatta said:
so we can stop funding the war? call Trump part of the axis of evil, and call it a lost cause. works for me. Let Macron do it
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So your response to the atrocity is to help the genocidal murderers murder more people? You do want us to be part of the axis of evil. Where did you get so much hate for human life? You do understand that your life is also endangered by that attitude.
 
Airyaman said:
Trump says Zelensky started the war. Do you agree?
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to your narrow question - no i dont agree, to the west/US . causing many factors of the war -yes I agree.
I've been over this many times
 
Big Brother said:
Yet you remain in the US, a country you now hate. Since you hate Russia so much too, and seemingly love Ukraine, why not go there and help them defeat Russia and America?
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The folks who should move are those who don't respect freedom of expression and insist anyone who speaks out against their idol should be the ones that leave.
 
Airyaman said:
Trump says Zelensky started the war. Do you agree?

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Trump says a lot of things that the evidence / facts do not support.
Guess, Trump does not want to offend his buddy Putin. :giggle:
 
iguanaman said:
So your response to the atrocity is to help the genocidal murderers murder more people? You do want us to be part of the axis of evil. Where did you get so much hate for human life?
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not at all. My point is neithr Russia or Ukr seems to want a cease fire. you can apportion blame as you wish, but that's the bottom line I see.
So Trump should forget his peace prize, turn the whole shooing match over to Macron and Europe, and the US can focus on China's military
 
mike2810 said:
go over it one more time.
What is the evidence that Ukraine started this war? Link please
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not at ALL what I said.. The US has treated Ukraine as a flashpoint to proxy war against Russia.
We did NATO expansion, and weaponized Ukr and gave it NATO promise 2x I know of..
None of which excuses the invasion, but my point is Putin just didn't suddenly desire a new Russian Imperium after years of jawboning.

The Maidan was the flashpoint for the Russian separatist war, and now this
 
Big Brother said:
I don't agree with Trump. I think the US instigated this war and forced Russia's hand.
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Russia invaded Ukraine because they might join NATO someday but not Finland who HAS joined NATO and shares more border with Russia than Ukraine. Yes that makes perfect sense. There is no excuse for the Russian invasion so stop passing blame.
 
iguanaman said:
Russia invaded Ukraine because they might join NATO someday but not Finland who HAS joined NATO and shares more border with Russia than Ukraine. Yes that makes perfect sense. There is no excuse for the Russian invasion so stop passing blame.
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If you had any understanding of Finnish defenses against Russia post WWII , you would get the fact that it didn't even need NATO
 
iguanaman said:
Russia invaded Ukraine because they might join NATO someday but not Finland who HAS joined NATO and shares more border with Russia than Ukraine. Yes that makes perfect sense. There is no excuse for the Russian invasion so stop passing blame.
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Anyone with more than 2 brain cells knows that Putin invades Ukraine because he wants the old USSR back. Ukraine was part of that.
 
anatta said:
not at ALL what I said.. The US has treated Ukraine as a flashpoint to proxy war against Russia.
We did NATO expansion, and weaponized Ukr and gave it NATO promise 2x I know of..
None of which excuses the invasion, but my point is Putin just didn't suddenly desire a new Russian Imperium after years of jawboning.

The Maidan was the flashpoint for the Russian separatist war, and now this
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Finland joined NATO and Putin did not say a word. He wants Ukraine as a stepping stone to take all of eastern europe back. Putin is the warmonger you always talk about but somehow he is not our enemy. You are really confused.
 
anatta said:
not at ALL what I said.. The US has treated Ukraine as a flashpoint to proxy war against Russia.
We did NATO expansion, and weaponized Ukr and gave it NATO promise 2x I know of..
None of which excuses the invasion, but my point is Putin just didn't suddenly desire a new Russian Imperium after years of jawboning.

The Maidan was the flashpoint for the Russian separatist war, and now this
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Who fired the first salvo, Russia or Ukraine?
Who built up their military presence along the border claiming it was all a training exercise and had no plans to cross the border?

Not buying your proxy war theory
 
anatta said:
If you had any understanding of Finnish defenses against Russia post WWII , you would get the fact that it didn't even need NATO
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So NATO is not a threat at all then? It is just a ruse to justify a brutal invasion and genocide. You are supporting and justifying genocide and that is really distressing. What will you do when genocide comes to America?
 
anatta said:
not at all. My point is neithr Russia or Ukr seems to want a cease fire. you can apportion blame as you wish, but that's the bottom line I see.
So Trump should forget his peace prize, turn the whole shooing match over to Macron and Europe, and the US can focus on China's military
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There is absolutely no support from the entire American left for dealing with China. The American left is enamored with the CCP and wants to institute something very similar in the US. The American left wants China to put 100% tariffs on all American goods and services and abolish all tariffs on Chinese goods entering the US. Hell, they probably want the US government to subsidize Chinese manufacturing and shipping.
 
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