Zelensky Publicly Rejected Trump’s Peace Plan

[Tiger]

Unlike Trump, Europe is more then happy to help Zelensky protect the freedom of Ukraine from the war criminal nation Russia

Then why didn’t Europe fully fund this proxy war from the beginning? If Europe is going to finance the entirety of Ukraine’s war, will they finally meet their NATO spending commitments? Or will they further cut back on NATO spending to fund their proxy war in Ukraine, expecting to remain protectorates of America?

 

[Juin]

Rewarding the invader & giving the victim country nothing is a bad peace deal.

Historically, the invaded more often than not get a bad peace deal. Why do you think the invader invades the invaded? To give the invaded a fair deal? And dont give me the bs that invading is solely a Russian specialty UK, France, Italy, Germany have been top class invaders; their victims are all over the globe

 

[Juin]

So might makes right.

Unfortunately that has been the case throughout history.

 

[j brown's body]

Then why didn’t Europe fully fund this proxy war from the beginning? If Europe is going to finance the entirety of Ukraine’s war, will they finally meet their NATO spending commitments? Or will they further cut back on NATO spending to fund their proxy war in Ukraine, expecting to remain protectorates of America?

I doubt any of our allies has the expectation that the US will do anything to help them.

 

[j brown's body]

Unfortunately that has been the case throughout history.

Fortunately, there is another choice here.

Trump could seal his peace deal with a $50B arms sale to Ukraine​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/04/25/trump-arms-ukraine-russia-peace/

 

[Roadvirus]

Fortunately, there is another choice here.

Trump could seal his peace deal with a $50B arms sale to Ukraine​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/04/25/trump-arms-ukraine-russia-peace/

He's too damn stupid/too much of a Putzin bitch to take that deal.

 

[Juin]

Substantiate in real terms, not some schlock Putin puppet, where citizens of those UKRAINIAN districts are requesting resolving of their ties to Ukraine and formal annexing of Russia.

Crimea and Donbass want out of Ukraine. Post 2014 coup in Kyiv they rose in rebellion

Even the USSR acknowledged Crimea is Ukrainian:

From Wikipedia: ”In 1954, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union transferred the Crimean Oblast from the Russian SFSR to the Ukrainian SSR. The territory had been recognized within the Soviet Union as having "close ties" to the Ukrainian SSR, and the transfer commemorated the Union of Russia and Ukraine Tercentenary.”

The USSR dissolved in 1991.

 

[Juin]

He's too damn stupid/too much of a Putzin bitch to take that deal.

If Ukraine has $50 billions to pay for arms, Trump should sell the arms. Money is money. But it should be real money; like Ukraine takes a loan from a European bank to pay for the arms.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

Crimea and Donbass want out of Ukraine. Post 2014 coup in Kyiv they rose in rebellion

The USSR dissolved in 1991.

We will have to agree to disagree as I do not think those are legitimate counter arguments.

You say the USSR dissolved in 1991 making the case that something that happened back then doesn't count, then say that something you state happened 11 years ago does count.

Make up your mind.