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You're on a job interview, how would you feel if the person asked you, who did you vote for, have you donated to a political party?

democrats?

So that's why they want to abort babies?
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A bit off topic, but it brings back a high-school memory of the day I told my boss at the golf course that I was quitting my job as cart boy. He informed me of two things: that I had to find my replacement, and the replacement could not be Filipino, "because they steal."

Blue Rock Springs, Bay Area, California. My parents told me to blow them off.

That was prelude to an adulthood full of numerous examples of people casually making similar racist comments in my earshot in all kinds of unexpected places, and it didn't seem to matter where I've lived.

To the folks who honestly seem to believe that racism isn't a problem in America, props to your bobbing and weaving.
 
If that employer is not discriminating against their political affiliation, and could prove that by showing they hired other people regardless of their political affiliation, would it still be considered discrimination?

Specifically, if the employer could prove they asked the question to observe how the question was answered, not caring which political affiliation was answered, is that discrimination?

It's a burden of proof issue.

The initial burden lies with the plaintiff - the person alleging they were discriminated against. Once the plaintiff shows a prima facie case, the burden shifts to the employer - the defendant - to show that they had a legitimate and non-discriminatory reason.

So yes - if the employer could prove that they didn't discriminate, then it isn't discrimination. But asking the question gets the candidate halfway there, in a hypothetical discrimination suit.
 
Well, of course I'd stand up and leave. I mean why would someone who asks that question stop there, in the future? I wouldn't want to work in that personally intrusive an environment.

However, if I were, say, trying to work for a certain political candidate or official, I would expect at least a few political questions on the interview. Just being honest here.
 
Do either of those questions have any relevancy to get hired? What would your reaction be to those questions?

Again, I'm not expecting a lot of actual responses from trump supporters other than who cares or some such crap. Nothing like a smaller less intrusive government, no?
did this actually occur?
if so, that business could be in a lot in trouble

there are certain questions that are allowed in interviews for jobs, and certain questions that are not

Those definitely fit the latter
 
Well, of course I'd stand up and leave. I mean why would someone who asks that question stop there, in the future? I wouldn't want to work in that personally intrusive an environment.

However, if I were, say, trying to work for a certain political candidate or official, I would expect at least a few political questions on the interview. Just being honest here.

Good point. If an employer doesn't want you for being liberal or conservative or whatever, they'll find a way to make you regret your choice to work there.

The only employers who get caught up in lawsuits, imo, are the ones who don't know the law well enough to outmaneuver it.
 
Do either of those questions have any relevancy to get hired? What would your reaction be to those questions?

Again, I'm not expecting a lot of actual responses from trump supporters other than who cares or some such crap. Nothing like a smaller less intrusive government, no?
Do you actually know any conservative or Trump supporting people? I do and I don't know any who would think that is anyone's business. You have such an ingrained attitude towards conservatives. Its like you're on a steady diet of liberol.
 

Good point. If an employer doesn't want you for being liberal or conservative or whatever, they'll find a way to make you regret your choice to work there.

The only employers who get caught up in lawsuits, imo, are the ones who don't know the law well enough to outmaneuver it.

Well, that's true.
 
A bit off topic, but it brings back a high-school memory of the day I told my boss at the golf course that I was quitting my job as cart boy. He informed me of two things: that I had to find my replacement, and the replacement could not be Filipino, "because they steal."

Blue Rock Springs, Bay Area, California. My parents told me to blow them off.

That was prelude to an adulthood full of numerous examples of people casually making similar racist comments in my earshot in all kinds of unexpected places, and it didn't seem to matter where I've lived.

To the folks who honestly seem to believe that racism isn't a problem in America, props to your bobbing and weaving.
Many years ago, my wife and I were invited to for a free weekend and a new housing development in a desirable community. The catch was we had to sit through a three hour sales pitch. We were young and broke and thought why not? (I’m not sure how we got on the list, but don’t look a gift…)

We get there and watch the sales video with the entire group, maybe 100 people. And then we get broken into groups of two couples where they press you with the hard sell for 2-1/2 hours. My blonde (I have assimilated!) wife and I introduce ourselves with our shared Hispanic last name and my Hispanic first name. About twenty minutes into the press the other guy says, “I’ve heard a lot of these places are being sold to foreigners. Is this one of those?”

“Sir, we sell houses to people from all over the country and the world.”

“Well I don’t mind Europeans, but I don’t want to live by those from Mexico or further south.”

I looked at the saleswoman and she looked at me as the blood ran out of her face. “Can we go now?”

And we were out of there!!! I found a free weekend was certainly worth a 40 minute sales pitch.
 
Ideally an interview is a two way street. Its not just up to the employers to decide if they will hire you...its up to you to decide if these are people you want to work for. A question like that would conclude the interview if I were asked.
 
Many years ago, my wife and I were invited to for a free weekend and a new housing development in a desirable community. The catch was we had to sit through a three hour sales pitch. We were young and broke and thought why not? (I’m not sure how we got on the list, but don’t look a gift…)

We get there and watch the sales video with the entire group, maybe 100 people. And then we get broken into groups of two couples where they press you with the hard sell for 2-1/2 hours. My blonde (I have assimilated!) wife and I introduce ourselves with our shared Hispanic last name and my Hispanic first name. About twenty minutes into the press the other guy says, “I’ve heard a lot of these places are being sold to foreigners. Is this one of those?”

“Sir, we sell houses to people from all over the country and the world.”

“Well I don’t mind Europeans, but I don’t want to live by those from Mexico or further south.”

I looked at the saleswoman and she looked at me as the blood ran out of her face. “Can we go now?”

And we were out of there!!! I found a free weekend was certainly worth a 40 minute sales pitch.

Well, that must have been quite the sinking feeling, but I can't say for sure, because I've never been the direct or indirect target of any of the things I've ever heard.

Thanks for sharing. Glad you got a free weekend out of it, at least.
 
Why would any prospective employer even ask that? I don't think I'd want to work for that organization.
 
Why would any prospective employer even ask that? I don't think I'd want to work for that organization.

Because of their bias against libs, conservatives, libertarians, Marxists, or tankies, I guess.

A politically unified shop is a more efficient one?

An owner's belief that he will never, under any circumstances, give a dime to a member of an opposing party?

Simple hatred of others?
 
I worked for the Catholic church for a few years, had trouble with the administrator, took her in front of a panel and then they slapped her wrist and in a few more weeks I was fired by said administrator but when I was called into her office by my super and they sat there and started insulting me, I put them right into their places, pointed my finger right in the nuns face and told them both practice what you preach you hypocrites, knowing I would be fired but I'm not going to stand there and accept that kind of treatment from anyone but you would lie to keep such a job? Not me, I have much more integrity, something many of the folks on the right seem to lack, severely.

Yeah, nuns can be some seriously screwed up people. Brothers too. The best ones during my schooling were the shy, retiring types.
 
Do either of those questions have any relevancy to get hired?
Depends on the job.
What would your reaction be to those questions?
"I'm sorry, but does who I voted for determine the outcome of this interview?" "No? Well, I respectfully decline to answer."
Again, I'm not expecting a lot of actual responses from trump supporters other than who cares or some such crap. Nothing like a smaller less intrusive government, no?
 
I watch a lot of police interrogation videos on YouTube, for some reason I'm fascinated with them. It never ceases to amaze me how stupid criminals can be.
It's like listening to trump denying his crimes while he double talks himself into admitting his guilt.
 
See? That's the spirit.

I find it vastly amusing when people think that police are not allowed to lie their asses off as necessary.

It's almost as amusing as people who know they have 5th amendment rights but can't shut their faces.

So, Luce, if you don't mind me asking, do you encounter racism in your work?

If I had to guess the jobs that might encounter it the most, the police and high school teacher would be at the top of my list.
 
Do either of those questions have any relevancy to get hired? What would your reaction be to those questions?

Again, I'm not expecting a lot of actual responses from trump supporters other than who cares or some such crap. Nothing like a smaller less intrusive government, no?
I think I'd take exception to that question. There's a lot of things people add into the interview process that I think they shouldn't. I was asked for social media passwords once. To me that's much more egregious.
 
I'm not a lawyer, so I cannot speak to any of that, but this was my wheelhouse, and one of the factors that might work against you is engagement. By engaging with the process, you could be interpreted as consenting to it. Best to leave it at the illicit line of questioning and entrust the rest to a professional litigator.

If one is reporting a company, it’s obvious one doesn’t consent the behavior. Going into detail might provide more information if a company needs to reported.
 
Many years ago, my wife and I were invited to for a free weekend and a new housing development in a desirable community. The catch was we had to sit through a three hour sales pitch. We were young and broke and thought why not? (I’m not sure how we got on the list, but don’t look a gift…)

We get there and watch the sales video with the entire group, maybe 100 people. And then we get broken into groups of two couples where they press you with the hard sell for 2-1/2 hours. My blonde (I have assimilated!) wife and I introduce ourselves with our shared Hispanic last name and my Hispanic first name. About twenty minutes into the press the other guy says, “I’ve heard a lot of these places are being sold to foreigners. Is this one of those?”

“Sir, we sell houses to people from all over the country and the world.”

“Well I don’t mind Europeans, but I don’t want to live by those from Mexico or further south.”

I looked at the saleswoman and she looked at me as the blood ran out of her face. “Can we go now?”

And we were out of there!!! I found a free weekend was certainly worth a 40 minute sales pitch.
Yeah, it happens.

Years ago when we were dating, my now-wife introduced me to members of the church congregation that had seen her grow up among that church community. One elderly, friendly woman gave me a sweet ol' hug, said it was nice to meet me, then asked, "you're not one of them Muslims now, are you?"
 
I would tell the truth. I don’t hide my political leaning. I am a liberal and proud of it.

I have worked for/with righties. We just don't get into political discussions.

If the employer was a trumper and the fact that I voted against him was a problem I wouldn't want to work there anyway.
 
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