Your opinion on what the USA should do about the North Korea issue.

[The Mark]

Over the past week or so, I've heard various mentions of the heating situation with North Korea.

Some of the discussions seem to be about:

Should discussions between North Korea and the US or a group of other countries be unilateral or multilateral?

How much of a threat North Korea actually is, in regards to its actual or assumed capacity to launch missiles at the US and other targets. It would seem to me that closer targets such as South Korea and Japan would be in much more danger, unless higher capability missiles are developed by North Korea.

The USA's real or assumed capacity to defend itself against missile attack.

The poll here is not the main point of this thread, but just to incite further debate. I am looking for each posters take on all or some of these issues, as well as introduction of their own POV on additional issues.

 

[Kandahar]

Short-term solution: Continue with the negotiations but offer North Korea very little. Inform Kim Jong-il that any North Korean attack on any other nation will result in the total destruction of his nuclear arsenal, and any North Korean NUCLEAR attack will result in the total destruction of his regime.

Long-term solution: Unilaterally lift all non-weapons trade sanctions, all diplomatic sanctions, and all travel bans. North Korea certainly will not respond in kind, but isolationism is clearly not working and this would be a step in the right direction. Also, we should work to form a friendly relationship with China. If American and Chinese interests on the Korean peninsula coincide, it'll be much easier to get North Korea to make some concessions.

 

[The Mark]

Arg, I messed up a poll option. :doh

Option 4 should read "North Korea is a minor threat to the world" instead of "North Korea is not a minor threat to the world".

Anyway, in regards to that topic, I heard somewhere that people who analyzed what they thought might have been the flight plan for the largest missile launched.....said they thought it might have been aimed for the water around Hawaii.

Or something.

And in regards to the unilateral or multilateral question, from what I understand, North Korea has been asking for unilateral talks with the USA for a while, and the USA has been insisting on multilateral talks.

But, if all else fails, trust in Pizza!

At least, a old pizza crust should make a great nuke bunker.

A little reflective white paint on the underside, put it over your head, and you have shelter and food for a day or so (depending on your consumption rate, many whould suggest a large pizza, with lots of toppings).

 

[Kelzie]

Arg, I messed up a poll option. :doh

Option 4 should read "North Korea is a minor threat to the world" instead of "North Korea is not a minor threat to the world".

Gotcha.

 

[Narph]

The U.S.A should not be the worlds police!
We should remain neutral and stay out of it!
If they actually threaten us directly and I mean directly not
just becuse they could in the future or it's a possiblity.
Then we crush them.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

The U.S.A should not be the worlds police!
We should remain neutral and stay out of it!
If they actually threaten us directly and I mean directly not
just becuse they could in the future or it's a possiblity.
Then we crush them.

hay and while we're at it lets let every tin-pot dictator the world over have nuclear weapons and the means by which to launch them.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

Perhaps the USA should set an example and destroy its own WMD's and dismantle its own nuclear capablity. Then it won't look like such a hypocrite when it demands that others do the same.

 

[Kelzie]

Perhaps the USA should set an example and destroy its own WMD's and dismantle its own nuclear capablity. Then it won't look like such a hypocrite when it demands that others do the same.

You know why people hate hypocrites? Cause they're usually right. It might be hypocritical for us to demand others give up nukes when we have them, but it doesn't make it any less right.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

You know why people hate hypocrites? Cause they're usually right. It might be hypocritical for us to demand others give up nukes when we have them, but it doesn't make it any less right.

Interesting philosophical position Kelzie, with which I totally disagree.
You're defending US hypocrisy as "right" which would rather make one assume that you coinsider the US government to be more responsible that any other. Given that you have Bush at the helm, that would be rather an outlandish claim in many people's view.

 

[dragonslayer]

We The United States should stop trying intimidate north Korea, and they would not be using this defensive posturing against us.

Because we attacked Irag for nothing, some small weak countries see us as bullies and major threats. Look at Iraq, maybe we are the major threat to world peace and stability.

We need to be fighting the war on terror and solving problems, instead of creating more terrorists.

 

[Deegan]

Interesting philosophical position Kelzie, with which I totally disagree.
You're defending US hypocrisy as "right" which would rather make one assume that you coinsider the US government to be more responsible that any other. Given that you have Bush at the helm, that would be rather an outlandish claim in many people's view.

If not for our bomb, you wouldn't be here talking with us............those are the facts!:roll:


But this thread is a joke, and you at least acknowledge that, so why get dramatic?

I would just leave you with the 15 resolutions, and show you the spine.........you're looking at it sweetheart, it's the U...S....of f**king A!

 

[Kelzie]

Interesting philosophical position Kelzie, with which I totally disagree.
You're defending US hypocrisy as "right" which would rather make one assume that you coinsider the US government to be more responsible that any other. Given that you have Bush at the helm, that would be rather an outlandish claim in many people's view.

Hardly. Here's another example. At one time, the US government committed genocide. Is it hypocritical for us to now condemn genocide? Arguably yes. However, that does not change the fact that it is the right thing to do.

It is far better that other countries give up their nukes, regardless of whether the US does or not. It's got nothing to do with our "responsibility".

 

[Kandahar]

Interesting philosophical position Kelzie, with which I totally disagree.
You're defending US hypocrisy as "right" which would rather make one assume that you coinsider the US government to be more responsible that any other. Given that you have Bush at the helm, that would be rather an outlandish claim in many people's view.

The United States IS more responsible with nuclear weapons than North Korea. Such judgments, of course, are entirely subjective. That doesn't mean that such judgments shouldn't be made when it comes to nuclear politics.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

Hardly. Here's another example. At one time, the US government committed genocide. Is it hypocritical for us to now condemn genocide? .

Not if you recognize your past genocide and equally condemn it, no.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

If not for our bomb, you wouldn't be here talking with us............those are the facts!:roll:

Is that so:roll:

But this thread is a joke, and you at least acknowledge that, so why get dramatic?

I would just leave you with the 15 resolutions, and show you the spine.........you're looking at it sweetheart, it's the U...S....of f**king A!

Are you drunk?

 

[Deegan]

Is that so:roll:



Are you drunk?

Yes!

Why, are you looking for a DATE?

 

[Urethra Franklin]

Yes!

Why, are you looking for a DATE?

Wouldn't your wife mind?

 

[Deegan]

Wouldn't your wife mind?

I'm sure she would, because we still hold marriage sacred here, not to mention God, Family, and last but not least, country, but we're just silly that way! :doh

 

[Urethra Franklin]

I'm sure she would, because we still hold marriage sacred here,

So sacred that you flirt with an unknown woman on an internet forum

not to mention God,

You believe in fairy stories

Family,,

Families are great, even gay ones and those with single mums.

and last but not least, country,

Nationalist claptrap

but we're just silly

On that we agree.


No date Deegan, stick with your wife. I'm sure you're well suited and if it works for you, I salute you and advise you to stop flirting with others if you know she'd be upset.
Besides, I've just checked out your picture.

 

[Deegan]

So sacred that you flirt with an unknown woman on an internet forum




You believe in fairy stories


Families are great, even gay ones and those with single mums.




Nationalist claptrap


On that we agree.


No date Deegan, stick with your wife. I'm sure you're well suited and if it works for you, I salute you and advise you to stop flirting with others if you know she'd be upset.
Besides, I've just checked out your picture.

Sorry hun.........I didn't mean to turn you on, lol!:rofl

 

[Narph]

You know why people hate hypocrites? Cause they're usually right. It might be hypocritical for us to demand others give up nukes when we have them, but it doesn't make it any less right.

hypocrocy = right :shock:

"If liberals could coherently articulate their views, America would lynch them.”

 

[Deegan]

hypocrocy = right :shock:

"If liberals could coherently articulate their views, America would lynch them.”

Not really................if we could train them to trace the worlds dictators, and place daisey's in theur gun barrels, we may have something there!

That's just stupid, so we struggle on...............:roll:

 

[Urethra Franklin]

Sorry hun.........I didn't mean to turn you on, lol!:rofl

:rofl

Ten out of ten Deegan. It's very rare that somebody on here makes me smile.

Now, personally I think you're just too flirtatious for me to buy that happily married, don't look elsewhere routine. Guys who don't play away don't usually have to state it

 

[Deegan]

:rofl

Ten out of ten Deegan. It's very rare that somebody on here makes me smile.

Now, personally I think you're just too flirtatious for me to buy that happily married, don't look elsewhere routine. Guys who don't play away don't usually have to state it

Sorry Lassie, I am what I perport to be, but that avatar is sexy, and who could resist?

I am glad that I could make you smile though, just as my poppy was!

 

[Kelzie]

hypocrocy = right :shock:

"If liberals could coherently articulate their views, America would lynch them.”

Did you even read the examples? I'm not going to bother explaining it to you until you do.