But that's not why these proposals have been rejected in the past. It was always some sort of constitutional issue, especially in regards to lex solis and the official national language.
I don't think the average American can tilt their head to the right near enough to see the ad as promoting separation.
But I do think it is funny to hear CONs go on and on about togetherness when their current political philosophy is 'every man for himself' and "the devil take the hindmost'.
Amen Sister, immigration reform is stuck in congress. The problem is that big labor and big business want relaxed immigration laws. They want new union members and they want cheap labor. Many of the rest of us can't figure out why someone who snuck across the border should get special treatment from the government yet those who want to come here legally have to go through a long process. We don't know why we don't protect the border as our constitution instructs us to do. The situations you describe are a real problem. Now the Speaker of the House, a Republican, wants to push through immigration reform which by polling nobody considers the number one priority in a long list of work they could be doing. Our government is hopelessly lost and the only thing that will fix it is a clean sweep. All our congresscritters need to go, both Republican and Democrat, well, except the ones I like.
Because there are certain sectors of our population here in America that would call that bigotry, even if it is logical.
No they don't. They just see it differently than you do.
I never tire of the radical left's conflation agenda. "Hysterical" can be applied across so many meanings. I mearly observed the commercial could have been more powerful had the people tried to sing America the Beautiful in English, with their various accents illustrating we are all one big melting pot. However, as illustrated, Proglets apparently can't even consider something as simple as an opinion without injecting some absurd venom.
This has been going on for decades, though. Kinda makes you wonder why nothing has been done to change it, other than to provide amnesty for millions every other decade. Why don't you change your lex solis laws? Why don't you make English the only official language throughout the nation? Why is it so easy to just show up and get a house, a job, a drivers license etc... when you have no valid immigration papers? Why not create a system that requires employers, landlords etc.. to verify iimigrations status? Every time these solutions have been proposed your politicians have invariably argued against them on some dodgy constitutional grounds. It's all well and good to complain, but it's not like this is a new problem. It's been decades in the making and the only solution that is ever implemented is amnesty. :shrug:
Because there are certain sectors of our population here in America that would call that bigotry, even if it is logical.
Talk about hysterical. :roll:
You didn't say it would have been 'more powerful in English' you tried a CON spin on separation... :doh
CONs seem to suffer from short term memory loss as they are never able to remember what they REALLY said.
No conflagration, merely holding a light on the CON game. That is seems awfully brite is on you :2wave:
A Mexican gardener isn't putting anybody at risk by not speaking English.
A Nigerian cab driver who knows street names in English and nothing else isn't putting anybody at risk.
A Chinese guy who only understands "Number ...." at Chinese restaurants isn't putting you at risk.
A Greek guy mopping floors at the mall after 10PM isn't putting you at risk.
An Arab who fixes computers at a coffee shop isn't putting you at risk.
These are the jobs that immigrants do. They're not doctors or even construction workers for the most part. The majority of them work menial jobs that Americans don't want to be paid $7.50 an hour to do. :shrug:
And falling is the most common one. That guy probably wouldn't have lost his balance, had he known English.
Sorry, I left the playground behind years ago. Enjoy the jungle gym.
Fine, tax those individuals who just can't stand to interact or even know that some people, gasp, can't speak good English, to pay for English language programs for those immigrant (or bad English!) populations. See if they want to put their money where their xenophobia is.
WTF people, grow up. Yes, trying to get a hair cut when you don't think the person is understanding your English is annoying...so you don't go there. You know, like in "land of the free".
We have a few old timers at our work and they get all pissy about "they don't speak English", it's small minded and embarrassing to hear them say it.
The Chinese gal on the other end of that phone who doesn't speak good English but is doing an engineering job is wondering why this old American coot doesn't understand the language of mathematics as well as she does, which is as much or more essential to the job in the first place.
Don't worry, Google will perfect the auto-translator, you'll stick a speaker in your ear and it will translate all that stuff that offends you into the pure language of mother American (with a slight delay). Then you can complain about the next xeno hot topic, maybe how that "ethnic food section" in the major grocery store chains now offends you.
Don't forget about those damn lettuce pickers. They're dangerous, you know.
In the labor camps, the adults will tell you kids don't work in the fields. They'll say the children stay within the clusters of wooden shacks that house migrant workers and their families, or attend summer school while their parents tend to the crops.
"Los niños no trabajan," a woman at a farm near Salem told a visiting reporter in July.
Minutes later, foreman Leonidon Mendoza Morales arrived and told a different story. The farmworker offered a seat in his flatbed truck and sped down rocky dirt roads, past the landowner's home and into a field containing endless rows of green.
There, his 12-year-old daughter, Diana, toiled in the summer heat with four younger children. Diana's 9-year-old brother, Elvin, intermittently crouched and stood in a bramble of blackberries. Elvin's small hands, wearing stained and torn latex gloves, felt between thorns for berries to place in the bucket harnessed over his shoulders and around his waist, laden with 15 pounds of fruit.
Cuando quieras hablamos en cualquiera de los dos por Skype.
Joko, there are no other languages remember? There is only English multilingualism. C'est dommage que tu sois si con que ça.
There's an issue with making it official. There's Puerto Rico, and people who's families have been in New Mexico since it was part of "Old" Mexico. I don't think it's necessary for the government to legislate what language people speak.
But that's not why these proposals have been rejected in the past. It was always some sort of constitutional issue, especially in regards to lex solis and the official national language.
Yep, it does. What else sucks? The amazingly intellectually dishonest arguments people continually use trying to reference native americans and comparing that to immigrants today.
The settlers of the Americas did not come over here and attempt to "join" the Native Tribes. By and large, they were not seeking to try and become part of the Navajo or the Cherokee or the Mohawk. They came over, tried to claim plots of land as their own, and tried to start their own society and community separate from what was established, without seeking to be a part of what was here before.
That is SIGNIFICANTLY different than individuals coming into the American society, gaining citizenship under the American government, gaining benefits from the American system, etc.
A better equivalent would be a group of foreigners coming into the United States border, proclaiming a plot of American land “theirs”, and trying to create their own little society on it. A situation like THAT, the native American memes would make sense to….an “invading” group claims land that the original inhabitants also claimed. Of course, they’d likely be repelled by the United States government for doing so.
This is similar to the idiotic notion I saw earlier in the thread suggesting various native American languages were the “original” language. No, not it wasn’t. They were perhaps the original languages of the various locations around North America…but the original predominant language of “The United States of America” WAS English. It’s not inaccurate to suggest that, but it is inaccurate to portray various native tongues as what was “originally” the language here…because when speaking of a culture and a society the notion of a “land mass” isn’t the dividing line.
All the constant attempts to insert Native Americans into the conversation are is an attempt to appeal to emotion by bringing up a group of people that admittedly got a raw deal often in our countries history, and whose land we basically took by force (granted, this is the way much of the “official” land the world over has been claimed in some fashion or another).
There was no significant attempt by the settlers to “immigrate” into the tribes of the Americas. Rather, to be quite honest, it was an invasion and conquering of the land to form a new society within the boundries of the Americas. NOW…if you want to try and claim that immigrants coming into this country are trying to invade us, then perhaps the comparison is reasonable. But otherwise it’s not a good analog in the least.
Because they can't speak English, their job opportunities are SEVERELY limited, and YES it can most certainly be dangerous work, not to mention these immigrants who are ignorant of English are taken advantage of, so the only thing you are doing by persisting with this ridiculous angle is putting people in difficult economic and social positions. Your ideology does NOTHING to help immigrants and EVERYTHING to hurt them.
I'm not on Skype.
That is not what I wrote about multilingualism but it apparently too complex a concept for you. Stormfront could at least give you a rational response in relation to my message from your perspectives.
You may want people of Latino ancestry to wear sombreros insure everyone knows they are Latino, but the bigotry you want to exist is dying away. Your team demanding separate but equal isolating people by ethnicity isn't going to happen. Your side lost and it rapidly becoming a bad history people want to forget. Time and again you've made your personal contempt of Latinos well known.
“America The Beautiful” was sung by bilingual American young women.
Well, there you go. Case closed. American and bilingual. Does anyone have a problem with this?
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