Young voters back Democrats. That alone could be the death of the GOP

[Rogue Valley]

Young voters back Democrats. That alone could be the death of the GOP

3/31/21
Republicans’ internal feud could wreck their chances in the next election cycle. Recent polls show a drop in the GOP’s favorability rating and a decline in the number of Americans who call themselves Republicans. Nevertheless, these developments pale alongside a long-term trend that could wreck the GOP for decades. The trend hasn’t been seen in American politics since the 1930s. Back then, Democrats swept into office on voters’ anger at the GOP’s limp response to the misery brought on by the Great Depression. Franklin D. Roosevelt’s election in 1932 marked the first time in 80 years that a Democratic presidential nominee had won a popular-vote majority, a feat FDR would repeat in the next three elections. Young voters backed the Democratic Party by more than 3-to-2 in the 1932-44 elections, and they maintained their party loyalty throughout their lives. Election after election until the late 1960s, their votes carried Democrats to victory. It has happened again. Exit polls indicate that voters under 30 backed the Democratic presidential nominee by more than 3-to-2 over the past five elections. And as they’ve aged, they’ve continued to vote Democratic. This cohort now includes every adult under the age of 45. Young voters carried Joe Biden to victory in 2020. What kept the election somewhat close was that older voters turned out at a somewhat higher rate.

But older voters will gradually die out of the electorate, and there are few Republican reinforcements in sight. Pollsters find that most young adults hold positions at odds with those of the GOP. Eighty-three percent support gay marriage, 81% back giving permanent legal status to Dreamers, and 70% would raise taxes on the wealthy. Three times as many young adults say that “bold action” is needed on climate change as say it’s not needed. By seven-to-one, Gallup found 18-to-29-year-olds supported the racial protests triggered by the death of George Floyd while in police custody. The list could go on, but the point would be the same. The GOP’s agenda has no appeal to most young adults. Half of today’s young voters are minority group members, and they are staunchly Democratic. Among those under 30, 87% of Black voters, 83% of Asian American voters and 73% of Latino voters cast a Democratic ballot in the 2020 presidential race. Rather than reaching out to minorities, Republicans have sought to dilute their influence through all manner of dirty tricks. Whatever the short-term advantage of these hijinks, suppression lengthens the memory of the suppressed and trickles down to the next generation. The GOP’s image among America’s minority groups is damaged and cuts across all ages.

The above explains one of the overarching reasons why Republican state legislatures across the country are currently engaged in passing laws which limit voting.

Rather than alter their discriminatory social policies (and their blooming affection for authoritarianism), Republicans have decided to pass new laws which cherry-pick who can vote.

 

[Grandpappy]

Young people grow up, live in the real world, and realize the rainbows and unicorns aren't real.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Young people grow up, live in the real world, and realize the rainbows and unicorns aren't real.

Young American people have nothing in common with the 1950's racial/hate policies of today's Republicans.

 

[Allan]

The above explains one of the overarching reasons why Republican state legislatures across the country are currently engaged in passing laws which limit voting.

This won't save them - young people are astute enough to have or get IDs, are better able to endure standing in line than older voters and are willing to use other methods to vote (mail).

With older voters dying on them, more women voting for Democrats and the US population becoming better educated and more diverse the GOP could be very screwed. The solution obviously is outreach to those groups, a strategy made much harder when a mind-numbingly stupid racist misogynist is elected President.

 

[nvflash]

It would matter if Democratic politicians could learn to take yes for an answer, but they can't, so they just end up being GOP lite.

That is to say, not quite as bad as the GOP, but not near as good as FDR, JFK, and LBJ.

Whatever Biden does, it will be a watered down version of what his voters will support, because he won't lay down the law to swing state Democrats in Congress.

Among younger voters, who tend to be more progressive, this is the worst type of betrayal, and just ends up giving them a reason to stay at home in Mid-Terms.

We often see this lopsided skew of what people say in opinion polls, and how elections play out.

When you are voted into power in the two branches of the Federal government that elections are held for, take yes for an answer, stop blaming the other party, the party you just took out of power, and ram though your agenda.

 

[bluesmoke]

Young people tend to be lib to begin with, and more con as they get older. However, it's a bit more lopsided now than before. So, a higher % will remain lib than before is the calculation there.

 

[TheParser]

Young voters back Democrats. That alone could be the death of the GOP

The above explains one of the overarching reasons why Republican state legislatures across the country are currently engaged in passing laws which limit voting.

Rather than alter their discriminatory social policies (and their blooming affection for authoritarianism), Republicans have decided to pass new laws which cherry-pick who can vote.

Yes.

Last year many young people joined those Dem-supported marches.
They were very foolish -- as young people are wont to be.
I feel very sorry for them.
Some of them are going to bitterly regret it once they enter real life.
If the GOP disappears, a lot of people will come to miss it once they realize what "liberals" have planned for them.
Other nations have committed suicide.
This nation is NOT exceptional.

 

[Allan]

Yes.

Last year many young people joined those Dem-supported marches.
They were very foolish -- as young people are wont to be.
I feel very sorry for them.
Some of them are going to bitterly regret it once they enter real life.
If the GOP disappears, a lot of people will come to miss it once they realize what "liberals" have planned for them.
Other nations have committed suicide.
This nation is NOT exceptional.

Many other nations, more liberal than the Democrat Party in the US, are thriving. Can you name even one liberal nation that has 'committed suicide'?

 

[TheParser]

Many other nations, more liberal than the Democrat Party in the US, are thriving. Can you name even one liberal nation that has 'committed suicide'?

Some people feel that England has been doing so since the 1950s.

 

[RealityNow]

Young people grow up, live in the real world, and realize the rainbows and unicorns aren't real.

As long as, young people ignore old Right Wing Conservative Republicans... they will do well, and they can move forward and build the 21st Century.
I'm so happy to see young people get away and stop listening to old Right Wing Confederate Ideology and the Minion's who promote.

Keep moving forward young people.... the future belongs to you!!!

 

[Allan]

Some people feel that England has been doing so since the 1950s.

Well that will certainly come as news to the citizens of England, a country whose GDP per capita has grown 30 fold since the 1960s.

So you have no examples, not even one, of a liberal country committing suicide?

 

[RealityNow]

Some people feel that England has been doing so since the 1950s.

The only people who feel that way is the white people, who are fast coming to realize they can't control and dominate everything forever.

England is moving away from White Nationalist Imperialism, and every decades it is becoming more Multi-ethnic and Multicultural, which is a blessing for England, and over the coming decades it will become more Multi-Ethnic and Multi Cultural...... White Nationalist Imperialism has damaged it far too long and did far too much damage around the world.

White people like to push some delusion that things are going down hill, when they can't continue to control and dominate everything, so... Young people are learning not to listen to the line of shit from white nationalist imperialist....

 

[Luce]

Young people grow up, live in the real world, and realize the rainbows and unicorns aren't real.

Unicorns like trickle down economics?

 

[Allan]

Unicorns like trickle down economics?

And liberal countries committing suicide.

 

[Luce]

And liberal countries committing suicide.

All through the 2000 decade, I heard from conservatives that offshoring was awesome, and we were all gonna be upper management.

Now, of course, the GOP doesn't remember it that way.

 

[RealityNow]

And liberal countries committing suicide.

These old goats from the 1940's and 1950's, 60's, 80's Confederacy Mentality and the White Nationalist of Old European Imperialism, are dying out by the days, and more of them will die out in the coming decades. It's just how life functions.
Young people won't grieve the loss of these old farts ideology, even if its a family member, they may grieve the loss as a person, but they won't grieve over the seeing that right wing anti humane ideology they promoted depart.
Young people know its something very sick and pathetic about these types who think their skin makes them something they are not, and has done nothing but created a body with a empty soul.. They don't want any part of that, and they are not going to let that become the makeup of themselves and their lives.

These old farts, lived resenting, hating, and hoarding, and they deluded themselves that such stupidity made them better than others, when fact is they adopted every savage acts and process they could .... until... they become Godless... and tried to use bastardized version of religions to pretend they were about Gods, principles... when all they did was spend their time trying to circumvent and usurp those principles.

 

[GDViking]

Young voters back Democrats. That alone could be the death of the GOP

The above explains one of the overarching reasons why Republican state legislatures across the country are currently engaged in passing laws which limit voting.

Rather than alter their discriminatory social policies (and their blooming affection for authoritarianism), Republicans have decided to pass new laws which cherry-pick who can vote.

It is exactly why voter suppression states like here in Wisconsin state issued student IDs are not accepted at the polls...

 

[roguenuke]

Young people tend to be lib to begin with, and more con as they get older. However, it's a bit more lopsided now than before. So, a higher % will remain lib than before is the calculation there.

I think that there is a problem with this assessment. I believe people commit a fallacy of equating correlation with causation here. I think if we looked at how conservative the population really was in the past, we may find that this is the main reason for that correlation. As we move out of the time when we had people who were more "conservative", we will see that people don't actually tend to get more "conservative" as they age, but rather that the Parties themselves shift over time, over those generations to adapt to the ideals that generations have or new generations see as important.

Voters Rarely Switch Parties, but Recent Shifts Further Educational, Racial Divergence

Neither party nets an overall advantage from the 9% of voters who have switched since 2018.

www.pewresearch.org

Do People Really Become More Conservative as They Age? | The Journal of Politics: Vol 82, No 2

Folk wisdom has long held that people become more politically conservative as they grow older, although several empirical studies suggest political attitudes are stable across time. Using data from the Michigan Youth-Parent Socialization Panel Study, we analyze attitudinal change over a major...

www.journals.uchicago.edu

People tend to reject change, but will accept a little bit. When Parties themselves change, adapt different positions on issues or the most important issues to the Parties change, that causes changes in those Parties, shifts that may make it appear that people are changing, but rather it is just a perception.

Do we really become more conservative with age? | James Tilley

The accepted wisdom is that the young are more radical than the old. But is this true, and if it is, why should our politics change with the years?

www.theguardian.com

Some of it is that generations tend to vote together because they share certain viewpoints. Obviously, there are plenty of exceptions here, but then people are not binary thinkers who believe either X or Y, and there can be no other choices. But new ideas that are remarkably different than anything from the earlier generation will take much more for people to latch on to them, whether they are "liberal" or "conservative" leaning. Same sex marriage is a good example here. It took a while for many older Democrats to support same sex marriage, whereas many younger Democrats and even many more younger conservatives were quicker to support same sex marriage than either group within the older generation.

 

[gino]

Show me a young man who isn't liberal and I'll show you a man without a heart.
Show me an older man that isn't conservative, and I'll show you an man without a brain.

 

[TheParser]

The only people who feel that way is the white people, who are fast coming to realize they can't control and dominate everything forever.

England is moving away from White Nationalist Imperialism, and every decades it is becoming more Multi-ethnic and Multicultural, which is a blessing for England, and over the coming decades it will become more Multi-Ethnic and Multi Cultural...... White Nationalist Imperialism has damaged it far too long and did far too much damage around the world.

White people like to push some delusion that things are going down hill, when they can't continue to control and dominate everything, so... Young people are learning not to listen to the line of shit from white nationalist imperialist....

 

[TheParser]

The only people who feel that way is the white people, who are fast coming to realize they can't control and dominate everything forever.

England is moving away from White Nationalist Imperialism, and every decades it is becoming more Multi-ethnic and Multicultural, which is a blessing for England, and over the coming decades it will become more Multi-Ethnic and Multi Cultural...... White Nationalist Imperialism has damaged it far too long and did far too much damage around the world.

White people like to push some delusion that things are going down hill, when they can't continue to control and dominate everything, so... Young people are learning not to listen to the line of shit from white nationalist imperialist....

Thank you for your opinion.

 

[calamity]

Young voters back Democrats. That alone could be the death of the GOP

The above explains one of the overarching reasons why Republican state legislatures across the country are currently engaged in passing laws which limit voting.

Rather than alter their discriminatory social policies (and their blooming affection for authoritarianism), Republicans have decided to pass new laws which cherry-pick who can vote.

That makes sense. The GOP is unattractive. Who under 30 wants to be a perpetual victim, adhere to some backwards religion, cry about sex being bad, and give up services so some rich old man can have another tax break?

 

[TheParser]

Many other nations, more liberal than the Democrat Party in the US, are thriving. Can you name even one liberal nation that has 'committed suicide'?

Why, of course.

A nation that I used to admire as a teenager so much that I fantasized about moving there.

Today, I would not even want to visit it, for I am so sad about what has happened to a once peaceful, prosperous, and united nation.

I cannot bring myself to name it, except that it is the Scandinavian nation that starts with an "S."

I dare not discuss how it has committed suicide, of course.

 

[Allan]

Why, of course.

A nation that I used to admire as a teenager so much that I fantasized about moving there.

Today, I would not even want to visit it, for I am so sad about what has happened to a once peaceful, prosperous, and united nation.

I cannot bring myself to name it, except that it is the Scandinavian nation that starts with an "S."

I dare not discuss how it has committed suicide, of course.

So you still can't name one liberal nation that has committed suicide.

 

[TheParser]

So you still can't name one liberal nation that has committed suicide.

I just did, dude!

Have a nice day!