You have to be pretty stupid to think Israel would not find an excuse

[Lursa]

I'm not among those cheering for a Trump failing on this one. Are you?

Looks like he already did. So I'm definitely publicizing it.

 

[Craig234]

How did they get the Genocidal Maniac Smotrich and those like him, to agree to the ceasefire whilst simultaneously getting Hamas to agree to hand over the hostages?

Presumably, Hamas HAD to know once the Hostages were handed over, Israel could very well just break the ceasefire to come back and "Finish the job".

If you watched some of the info I posted about the topic, you would know the answers.

If you need a pointer to some of the places reporting the answers, you can ask, or for one, Max Blumenthal of the Gray Zone has some of the best reporting, another is Drop Site News.

The actual specifics of the laughably called "Trump peace plan" would NEVER be accepted by the Palestinians, EVER, on any side.

So what placated Hamas and the Genociders in Netanyahus cabinet long enough to get the hostages released?

If you hadn't notices, the Palestinian people were starving. They were under enormous pressure from the Palestinian people to get even some temporary relief. They have been trying to return the hostages in a trade from day one, and made a political decision to accept part of the deal getting temporary relief, and exposing the rogue terrorist state yet again for breaking the ceasefire.

Smotrich and Gvir did NOT support the deal and voted against it. Most of the Knesset recognized the pressure from the US and did, as Netanyahu promised them he would not honor it, and Smothrcih and Gvir threatened Neatnyahu if he did. Note Netanyahu didnot attend the ceremony in Egypt, to placate them.

 

[Craig234]

Pay attention to actions not words

With Republicans and AIPAC servants.

 

[Pyrite]

Israel Suspends Aid and Strikes Gaza After Accusing Hamas of Violating Truce

Israel said Palestinian militants attacked its forces across cease-fire lines and launched a wave of attacks on Gaza. Both sides still say they are committed to the truce.

www.nytimes.com

Trump the great deal maker.

No one should be at all surprised that the Netanyahu Government has now reneged on this part of the deal.

After all, the Israeli Government has already - almost from the start - refused to abide by its promise to allow a minimum number of aid trucks into Gaza.

 

[Craig234]

How is this supporting Hamas?

Hamas wants Palestinian people to have self-determination, with an end to the illegal colonization and attacks and apartheid. Don't you?

 

[SCrider]

Hamas wants Palestinian people to have self-determination, with an end to the illegal colonization and attacks and apartheid. Don't you?

This part yes, I don't agree with their methods though.

 

[Craig234]

This part yes, I don't agree with their methods though.

Can you be more specific over the last two years? Do you support Palestinians' legal right under international law to resist occupation? What methods do you think Hamas should so that would be effective against it?

 

[Lursa]

If you watched some of the info I posted about the topic, you would know the answers.

If you need a pointer to some of the places reporting the answers, you can ask, or for one, Max Blumenthal of the Gray Zone has some of the best reporting, another is Drop Site News.



If you hadn't notices, the Palestinian people were starving. They were under enormous pressure from the Palestinian people to get even some temporary relief. They have been trying to return the hostages in a trade from day one, and made a political decision to accept part of the deal getting temporary relief, and exposing the rogue terrorist state yet again for breaking the ceasefire.

Smotrich and Gvir did NOT support the deal and voted against it. Most of the Knesset recognized the pressure from the US and did, as Netanyahu promised them he would not honor it, and Smothrcih and Gvir threatened Neatnyahu if he did. Note Netanyahu didnot attend the ceremony in Egypt, to placate them.

It's amusing you assume someone reads your posts...or should...when you have no clue how many people do or then go on to debate them. I'm not sure there's anyone left that does...do you know?

So it's ironic that you condescend to him.

 

[NatMorton]

Looks like he already did. So I'm definitely publicizing it.

And that's an answer with a non-answer.

 

[The Mark]

You're the one aligning with a terrorist organization, not me.

It's pretty damned clear to me that both sides in the ongoing conflict are trying to terrorize the other, and Israel is more successful at it.

Terrorism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.[1] The term is used in this regard primarily to refer to intentional violence during peacetime or in the context of war against non-combatants.[2] There are various different definitions of terrorism, with no universal agreement about it.[3][4][5] Different definitions of terrorism emphasize its randomness, its aim to instill fear, and its broader impact beyond its immediate victims.[1]

 

[Lursa]

And that's an answer with a non-answer.

Do you think the peace accord/ceasefire is still in place?

 

[noonereal]

got nothing to do with Trump.

What sad post.

Trump is God, got it

 

[Pyrite]

No one should be at all surprised that the Netanyahu Government has now reneged on this part of the deal.

After all, the Israeli Government has already - almost from the start - refused to abide by its promise to allow a minimum number of aid trucks into Gaza.

Having received the still-living hostages from Hamas, are Netanyahu et al pressing on with their "eradicate Hamas from Gaza (and starve Palestinians in the process)" war?

 

[noonereal]

I'm reading your posts, and that's enough. You are here supporting one of the most despicable organizations on the planet.

Nope

That is you

 

[Fletch]

Looks like he already did. So I'm definitely publicizing it.

How do you figure that? The ONLY thing that mattered was the release of the hostages. If Hamas wants to break the deal, then there is nothing stopping Israel from finishing the job. Either there will be peace with the cooperation of Hamas or without it.

 

[Pyrite]

How do you figure that? The ONLY thing that mattered was the release of the hostages. If Hamas wants to break the deal, then there is nothing stopping Israel from finishing the job. Either there will be peace with the cooperation of Hamas or without it.

Netanyahu et al "broke the deal", when they refused to allow a minimum number of aid trucks to enter Gaza.

Point that "broke-the-deal" finger at the Israeli Government.

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As for your notion about "peace".....that's not on the table. Remember, despite two years of attacks and embargoes on the Gaza Strip made by one of the world's modern military nations, the Government of Israel has not managed to "eradicate" Hamas from that area.

 

[Craig234]

It's pretty damned clear to me that both sides in the ongoing conflict are trying to terrorize the other, and Israel is more successful at it.

What an absurd false equivalency, showing brainwashing IMO. You are defending genocide, colonialism, ethnic cleansing, period by lying about the victims and blaming them.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

The "ceasefire" and "end to hostilities" lasted several hours.

Thats pretty good for Israel!

 

[The Mark]

What an absurd false equivalency, showing brainwashing IMO. You are defending genocide, colonialism, ethnic cleansing, period by lying about the victims and blaming them.

No, I am not.

 

[Craig234]

No, I am not.

Yes, you are. First you equated them as equal in their intent, which is a lie. Then you made the only difference you recognize that the rogue terrorist state is more successful, which is not the issue. You are denying, whitewashing, supporting the genocide, colonization and ethnic cleansing by those false claims. And you appear so brainwashed you don't understand what you are saying.

 

[Lursa]

How do you figure that? The ONLY thing that mattered was the release of the hostages. If Hamas wants to break the deal, then there is nothing stopping Israel from finishing the job. Either there will be peace with the cooperation of Hamas or without it.

You are...poorly informed.

"President Donald Trump recently brokered a ceasefire agreement between Israel and Hamas, marking the end of a brutal two-year war in Gaza. His initiative, called the “Comprehensive Plan to End the Gaza Conflict,” was unveiled on September 29, 2025, and formally signed on October 9, 202​

​

Key Elements of Trump’s Gaza Peace Plan​

• Ceasefire and Hostage Exchange: All living Israeli hostages were released by Hamas, and Israel freed over 1,900 Palestinian prisoners, including 250 long-term detainees4.
• Demilitarization of Gaza: The Strip is to be governed by a transitional technocratic committee, with no Israeli occupation or annexation.
• International Mediation: The plan was negotiated with support from eight Arab and Muslim countries, including Qatar, Turkey, and Egypt.
• U.S. Oversight: The U.S. State Department and other guarantor nations are monitoring compliance, especially amid concerns that Hamas may violate the ceasefire by targeting Palestinian civilians6.

"Ceasefire, Peace Plan." And so far both sides are killing again (no longer bothering with hostages and prisoners? Guess neither side believes they need the leverage anymore if they're going to keep fighting.)

The Times of Israel, CBS News | MSN, The Hill, ABC News, Wikipedia,

 

[Bullseye]

What sad post.

Trump is God, got it

Stick to the topic; exercise you Trumpatism elsewhere

 

[The Mark]

Yes, you are. First you equated them as equal in their intent, which is a lie. Then you made the only difference you recognize that the rogue terrorist state is more successful, which is not the issue. You are denying, whitewashing, supporting the genocide, colonization and ethnic cleansing by those false claims. And you appear so brainwashed you don't understand what you are saying.

No, I am not.

I inferred from their actions that both are trying to terrorize the other, as that appears to be what happened/is happening. Israel is certainly more successful at it, and has been doing more of it, at least from what I can tell.

Is this inaccurate? And if so, how?

Edit: To clarify, I'm not saying anything about their reasons for doing so, nor comparing those reasons or the intent behind their actions. Both HAVE terrorized civilians, and Israel is certainly currently doing so.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

I'm not among those cheering for a Trump failing on this one. Are you?

Doesn't matter if anyones "cheering" or not, only an iddjutt ever believed that this "peace deal" was for real.

 

[noonereal]

Stick to the topic; exercise you Trumpatism elsewhere

Is not your lord Trump always the topic for you?

Seems so.