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Yet another one. 2 killed 3 critical in Huston.

justabubba said:
There are no gun laws that are targeted toward lawful gun owners

That is bullshit propaganda those of your ilk have formulated because they have no other excuse for the ongoing massive degree of gun carnage in the United States
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bullshit. the ban on legal machine guns made after may 19, 1986. the 1934 NFA. magazine bans. etc.

criminals cannot own any firearms. so any restrictions on types of firearms ONLY impacts lawful firearm owners
 
Jack Fabulous said:
Here's the problem.

We've got a country with an estimated 300+ million guns currently in circulation. I don't know what the percentage of those guns is that reside in the hands of those who are forbidden to have them, but I do know that getting them out of those hands would require direct infringements of the 2A.

Quite the conundrum...
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Disarming the public is not a viable option

Imposing steep consequences for misusing firearms is a solution
 
TurtleDude said:
yeah sure. threatening posters is a big no no on this board
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I’m not threatening posters I’m doing my diligence in reporting insurrection supporters.
 
justabubba said:
Disarming the public is not a viable option

Imposing steep consequences for misusing firearms is a solution
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that's already on the books. armed robbery, felonious assault, attempted murder, murder, are all extremely serious felonies.
 
Davin said:
I’m not threatening posters I’m doing my diligence in reporting insurrection supporters.
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that's rather stupid/

you seem to have fascist proclivities. you also hate free speech. and go ahead and report it. send me a pm and I will give you the FBI RAC in my district.
 
TurtleDude said:
there is a gun problem in the USA in the sense that criminals with guns are not dealt with effectively. Sadly, many of you on the left see the problem as lawful gun ownership-not criminal violence
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Again, you are quite wrong

But I welcome you to point out all of the advocacy to address a non-existing problem with law-abiding gun owners

You can’t do it
You haven’t done it
You will not do it

But that reality will not stop you from repeating the bullshit posts having to do with undermining the lawful bearing of arms by American citizens
That legal bearing of arms is not the problem
 
justabubba said:
Again, you are quite wrong

But I welcome you to point out all of the advocacy to address a non-existing problem with law-abiding gun owners

You can’t do it
You haven’t done it
You will not do it

But that reality will not stop you from repeating the bullshit posts having to do with undermining the lawful bearing of arms by American citizens
That legal bearing of arms is not the problem
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so what are you solutions that are logical and constitutional. You've been whining about guns since you have been on this forum and i have yet to see anything from you that meets both tests. Almost everything the left wants to pass is designed to harass lawful owners. malum prohibitum nonsense.
 
There has been a lot of mass shootings this weekend. One in Houston, Texas, in Milwaukee just outside a ball game, 28 shot, 5 fatally in Chicago over the weekend, Buffalo, where an 18 year old with a history of mental illness was able to purchase a weapon in New York, a state with some of the most strict laws on guns and then went into a grocery store and killed 10. The same with the shooting that occurred today in California a state with very strict gun laws compared to most states where an Asian man in a church gathering started shooting parishioners . Whether a church or a grocery store this is the action of a sociopath.


Those who want to shout guns are the problem are full of hoowee. What we have is a breakdown in society where life is no longer respected by a good number of those in society. We also have a mental illness crisis that needs to be addressed immediately. And the increase of drug addictions is feeding it.

All the shootings I mentioned above are either in liberal strongholds whether a city or state or both.
 
TurtleDude said:
If you claim your motivation for wanting to ban guns is to save innocent life, and your solutions are not going to do much if anything to save such lives, then we can examine your motivations
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i'm just surprised that you don't post about melanoma when someone slips in the shower and dies.
 
CaughtInThe said:
i'm just surprised that you don't post about melanoma when someone slips in the shower and dies.
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I am surprised that don't seem to be able to understand simple arguments
 
justabubba said:
74 Americans die daily by being on the wrong end of a gun, according to your post

How many will have to die each day for you to find that it is a genuine problem which needs to be addressed?
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Curious as to how you would address this problem...
 
Logician Man said:
Who anointed you to speak on behalf of "lefties" regarding "lawful gun ownership"? You keep posting the above claim in thread after thread after thread, but never provide any proof the claim is valid. ----Logical conclusion? The claim is merely your personal opinion only; not a statement of 'fact'. Same applies to your BS claim "Liberals support violent criminals." No "proof" for than claim either.
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That poster does have a relentless habit of talking about "lefties" and guns in every single thread that has nothing to do with guns.
 
TurtleDude said:
I am surprised that don't seem to be able to understand simple arguments
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like speaking of deaths from war when somebody get's stabbed to death at home?
 
justabubba said:
74 Americans die daily by being on the wrong end of a gun, according to your post

How many will have to die each day for you to find that it is a genuine problem which needs to be addressed?
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Who doesn't find that it is a problem?
How about we fix the car accident problem (or the alcohol problem (about 500 deaths every 48 hours) first?
 
I believe we need to encourage fatherhood again. Where does a young man get to spend time with positive male figures learning about healthy masculinity? I can't think of any place.

Even if young men have fathers, what even exists anymore for them to bond together?

I never had a dad growing up and it makes a huge difference. So many young men are growing up without the ability to understand themselves and how they fit in the world.

The things I wish I had learned are:
How to define yourself on your own terms.
How to set and maintain boundaries.
How to respect other people's boundaries (even if you don't like those boundaries).
How to stand on solid ground instead of taking on other people's values.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Its not a problem. It requires no addressing at all. People kill other people deliberately and accidentally all the time. How is immaterial.
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Another NRA shill come to pollute the forum. In 2020 in what looks to outsiders like a third world banana republic, America lost 45,000 to gunshot; 20,000 of those being homicides. But there's no problem, apparently. What colour is the sky on planet NRA? In comparison Britain suffered thirty (30) fatalities from gunshot in the same year. But no problem losing 45,000, right? Keep it up, you'll soon reach 100,000.
 
vesper said:
There has been a lot of mass shootings this weekend. One in Houston, Texas, in Milwaukee just outside a ball game, 28 shot, 5 fatally in Chicago over the weekend, Buffalo, where an 18 year old with a history of mental illness was able to purchase a weapon in New York, a state with some of the most strict laws on guns and then went into a grocery store and killed 10. The same with the shooting that occurred today in California a state with very strict gun laws compared to most states where an Asian man in a church gathering started shooting parishioners . Whether a church or a grocery store this is the action of a sociopath.


Those who want to shout guns are the problem are full of hoowee. What we have is a breakdown in society where life is no longer respected by a good number of those in society. We also have a mental illness crisis that needs to be addressed immediately. And the increase of drug addictions is feeding it.

All the shootings I mentioned above are either in liberal strongholds whether a city or state or both.
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Who cares where the atrocities occurred. The problem is the easy availability of your wretched guns; every country on the planet has societal issues, some much worse than others, yet only third world Brazil beats the US in numbers of firearm-related fatalities. Why are the Americas so apparently uniquely violent?

Gun Deaths by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com worldpopulationreview.com
 
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