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!x*@ the Brits! Sarkozy wreck's Blair's dream of being EU President.

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Former UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown wrecked Tony Blair's dream of becoming President of Europe by provoking a heated row with Nicolas Sarkozy, reveals a book.

The French President was so angry that he refused to take phone calls from Brown. His attitude from that moment on was said to be '**** the Brits'.

Sarkozy later avenged Brown and by grabbing for France a Brussels post that Brown had desperately wanted to fill with a Briton.

How Brown used Sarkozy to wreck Blair's dream of becoming Euro Prez

Nothing much to say really.
I guess Brown did do something for the country and Merci beaucoup, Sarkozy. :2wave:
 
I'm not really a fan of Tony Blair, but I regret we didn't get a more popular EU President than ... who? Rompuy? Is that even the guy's name?

The EU wasted a good opportunity to connect with the people by electing such a no-name, rather than a well known experienced politician. Blair had this standing, although he may have been too controversial.

That's a bit off-topic, but I'd prefer it anyway if the EU President was either directly elected by the people, or at least by the EU Parliament -- including a real competition between different candidates with different political stances. Consensus may be efficient, but including the people more is what the EU needs.
 
I'm not really a fan of Tony Blair, but I regret we didn't get a more popular EU President than ... who? Rompuy? Is that even the guy's name?

The EU wasted a good opportunity to connect with the people by electing such a no-name, rather than a well known experienced politician. Blair had this standing, although he may have been too controversial.

By picking Pompuy they played right into the hands of the Eurosceptics. Then again many Eurosceptics are making fools of themselves these days it seems.

That's a bit off-topic, but I'd prefer it anyway if the EU President was either directly elected by the people, or at least by the EU Parliament -- including a real competition between different candidates with different political stances. Consensus may be efficient, but including the people more is what the EU needs.

Would need a radical treaty change to make that possible. And I dont think at this time, that it is a good idea. Maybe in 20+ years, but not now.
 
I'd prefer it anyway if the EU President was either directly elected by the people, or at least by the EU Parliament -- including a real competition between different candidates with different political stances. Consensus may be efficient, but including the people more is what the EU needs.

You couldn't be more on topic!
 
And I dont think at this time, that it is a good idea. Maybe in 20+ years, but not now.

Yes, I can't stand democracy either. Power To The Oiks?! I'd rather people who know what they're doing and who are safely pure and untainted rule us too!

What have the Public ever done for us?!



I guess Brown did do something for the country and Merci beaucoup, Sarkozy.

Blair's known and hated. Van Rumpuy isn't and has less chance of being, all cosy and cut off from his subjects as he is.
 
Yes, I can't stand democracy either. Power To The Oiks?! I'd rather people who know what they're doing and who are safely pure and untainted rule us too!

What have the Public ever done for us?!

Naw, if the EU introduced real public elections for the President or head of Commission, you and your friends would be the first to call foul and bloody murder, because that means evil "federalism!!!11!!!!1!" and an evil "a super-state!!!!!1!1!!!" that will eat your British babies.
 
Stop bouncing and waving your arms about, it makes things very difficult to comprehend.

Whether there was an elected dead-hand or not, things could get even more democratic by actually receiving the referenda on Lisbon and the single currency we were promised here since 1996.

Supreme democratic accountability could even come about if we had a referendum on being in the EU itself. In Britain we had an EEC one in 1975, but that was only to ask us if we wanted to remain part of a mere trading community.
 
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France is most hoping that " Sarko " is booted out soon.

As soon as Blair's chances went up in flames, the news went very quiet on the subject. So quiet I had to go online to find out who won it.
 
The EU wasted a good opportunity to connect with the people by electing such a no-name, rather than a well known experienced politician. Blair had this standing, although he may have been too controversial.

In Britain he has to be the most hated person of all time. People use terms like 'traitor', 'liar', 'treasonous', 'war-criminal', 'scumbag' etc as part of his name when talking about him.

Making Traitor Blair the EU president would have guaranteed our UKIP the most number of seats from the UK.
 
I'm not really a fan of Tony Blair, but I regret we didn't get a more popular EU President than ... who? Rompuy? Is that even the guy's name?

The EU wasted a good opportunity to connect with the people by electing such a no-name, rather than a well known experienced politician. Blair had this standing, although he may have been too controversial.

That's a bit off-topic, but I'd prefer it anyway if the EU President was either directly elected by the people, or at least by the EU Parliament -- including a real competition between different candidates with different political stances. Consensus may be efficient, but including the people more is what the EU needs.

An EU President directly elected by the people??

Nah!! An idea like that woulld never fly with the Euroleftists!
 
By picking Pompuy they played right into the hands of the Eurosceptics. Then again many Eurosceptics are making fools of themselves these days it seems.



Would need a radical treaty change to make that possible. And I dont think at this time, that it is a good idea. Maybe in 20+ years, but not now.

LOL!! Right on cue!

Yeah, sure. Maybe in 20+ years. By that time the Europeans will have shown some responsibility and know which way to vote.
 
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