WWE is more real than CNN

[Bucky]

I'll be honest. I enjoy WWE and have been a life long wrestling fan. Even though the show is scripted, it is enjoyable. At times the storylines are intruging but Vince McMahon knows how to put on a good show.

IMO CNN has less credibility than WWE. At least with the WWE they don't deny they are sports entertainment. IMO CNN is media entertainment. They are as much as real media as the WWE is to real wrestling.

WWE understands who they are. CNN is like masturbating with hot sauce. It is neither pleasurable or entertaining. What is CNN's purpose?

 

[reinoe]

I'll be honest. I enjoy WWE and have been a life long wrestling fan. Even though the show is scripted, it is enjoyable. At times the storylines are intruging but Vince McMahon knows how to put on a good show.

IMO CNN has less credibility than WWE. At least with the WWE they don't deny they are sports entertainment. IMO CNN is media entertainment. They are as much as real media as the WWE is to real wrestling.

WWE understands who they are. CNN is like masturbating with hot sauce. It is neither pleasurable or entertaining. What is CNN's purpose?

CNN has less credibility than National Inquirer.

 

[PeteEU]

CNN has less credibility than National Inquirer.

LOL now that is funny. CNN has far more credibility than the NI and certainly Fox News.

CNN has made mistakes it seems, they apologized and corrected them. NI never corrects. Fox News also rarely corrects and continues to push their lies. NI and Fox News are nothing but propaganda machines for Trumpland.

 

[Gonzo Rodeo]

LOL now that is funny. CNN has far more credibility than the NI and certainly Fox News.

CNN has made mistakes it seems, they apologized and corrected them. NI never corrects. Fox News also rarely corrects and continues to push their lies. NI and Fox News are nothing but propaganda machines for Trumpland.

The corporate model for all news media (in the US, at least) is to tell people what they want to hear.

If you think one is better than the other, you are part of the problem. Might as well buy blood diamonds.

 

[Utility Man]

:2wave:

 

[PeteEU]

The corporate model for all news media (in the US, at least) is to tell people what they want to hear.

If you think one is better than the other, you are part of the problem. Might as well buy blood diamonds.

Well there are ones that are better than others.. does not mean that they all are good. The flu is better than HIV no? Yes CNN has made mistakes, and I dont trust them as I use too, but compared to the other US news organisations, CNN is way better. Fox News is nothing but the Pravda of America, and anyone taking Briebart, National Inquirer, Daily Mail, and so on, as serious news.. needs their head examined.

The problem is and has been for a while, the ability of especially the right wing in the US, to "make **** up" and get away with it because no one dares challenge Fox News or any of the alt right news outlets, and when they do.. like CNN has btw, then they get slammed for every single mistake and be painted as "false news" by those who started the ****ing false news ****...

Maybe a regulator of some sort is needed to make sure that news organisations are kept truthful and dont become part of a propaganda machine like Fox News.

 

[Abbazorkzog]

No, it is not. Period.

 

[katzgar]

I'll be honest. I enjoy WWE and have been a life long wrestling fan. Even though the show is scripted, it is enjoyable. At times the storylines are intruging but Vince McMahon knows how to put on a good show.

IMO CNN has less credibility than WWE. At least with the WWE they don't deny they are sports entertainment. IMO CNN is media entertainment. They are as much as real media as the WWE is to real wrestling.

WWE understands who they are. CNN is like masturbating with hot sauce. It is neither pleasurable or entertaining. What is CNN's purpose?

Given CNN's explosion in popularity I would say CNN's purpose is to make a lot of money off of people's disgust with Trump

 

[Gonzo Rodeo]

Well there are ones that are better than others.. does not mean that they all are good. The flu is better than HIV no? Yes CNN has made mistakes, and I dont trust them as I use too, but compared to the other US news organisations, CNN is way better. Fox News is nothing but the Pravda of America, and anyone taking Briebart, National Inquirer, Daily Mail, and so on, as serious news.. needs their head examined.

The problem is and has been for a while, the ability of especially the right wing in the US, to "make **** up" and get away with it because no one dares challenge Fox News or any of the alt right news outlets, and when they do.. like CNN has btw, then they get slammed for every single mistake and be painted as "false news" by those who started the ****ing false news ****...

Maybe a regulator of some sort is needed to make sure that news organisations are kept truthful and dont become part of a propaganda machine like Fox News.

Yes. A regulator to decide what is "true". [Rolly eyes emoticon]

I'm glad you recognize Fox for what it is: a platform to drive an agenda. You see the things that they do and the tactics they use and declare, confidently and finally, that They Are Bad. What concerns me, however, is when "the other side" does it, but saying things that you prefer to hear... pushing agendas that you prefer... and suddenly it's simply "making one little mistake".

No, it's not. It's not a little mistake. It is an example of the problem endemic to corporate, 24-hour media. And each outlet does it. It's not the difference between the flu and HIV; it's lung cancer vs brain cancer.

That you continue to be blind to this is the very evidence of the truth of it. You want to believe the people who are saying the things you want to hear. That is the root of the problem.

 

[code1211]

I'll be honest. I enjoy WWE and have been a life long wrestling fan. Even though the show is scripted, it is enjoyable. At times the storylines are intruging but Vince McMahon knows how to put on a good show.

IMO CNN has less credibility than WWE. At least with the WWE they don't deny they are sports entertainment. IMO CNN is media entertainment. They are as much as real media as the WWE is to real wrestling.

WWE understands who they are. CNN is like masturbating with hot sauce. It is neither pleasurable or entertaining. What is CNN's purpose?

Wow! I mean, Wow!

 

[code1211]

LOL now that is funny. CNN has far more credibility than the NI and certainly Fox News.

CNN has made mistakes it seems, they apologized and corrected them. NI never corrects. Fox News also rarely corrects and continues to push their lies. NI and Fox News are nothing but propaganda machines for Trumpland.

Can you provide an example of the ideas you have posted?

 

[PeteEU]

Yes. A regulator to decide what is "true". [Rolly eyes emoticon]

No, the truth is the truth. False stories and "alternative facts" need to be squashed or/and countered some how. Either the media police themselves, or we have to have someone do it for them. Right now, the US media certainly does not police themselves, as CNN is getting ripped apart for its mistakes, but Fox News is teflon. That "Briebart" is accepted as news, is laughable.

My point is, as a consumer of news, we need to have some certainty that the news we are watching or reading is as fair and balanced as possible, and if that requires an industry regulator or code of conduct or whatever.. then so be it.

The UK has an industry code of conduct that all TV news organisations have to follow if they want to transmit in the UK. It works some what, and is absolutely hated by Murdoch, aka Fox News owner, which means it must be the right thing to do.

That you continue to be blind to this is the very evidence of the truth of it. You want to believe the people who are saying the things you want to hear. That is the root of the problem.

Hell no, I want the truth and facts from my news, not some politically corporate motivated bull****. People who watch Fox News, they are the types that only listen to "news" that they agree with. I for one, listen to multiple news sources from across the world, and then form my own opinion.. which can change over time as more facts and truths come out. No body tells me what I should believe or not believe...

 

[code1211]

:2wave:

Isn't it interesting that the Alt-Left Propagandist Cartoonist carrying the story represents that the entities carrying the story were the Alt-Right?

 

[code1211]

Well there are ones that are better than others.. does not mean that they all are good. The flu is better than HIV no? Yes CNN has made mistakes, and I dont trust them as I use too, but compared to the other US news organisations, CNN is way better. Fox News is nothing but the Pravda of America, and anyone taking Briebart, National Inquirer, Daily Mail, and so on, as serious news.. needs their head examined.

The problem is and has been for a while, the ability of especially the right wing in the US, to "make **** up" and get away with it because no one dares challenge Fox News or any of the alt right news outlets, and when they do.. like CNN has btw, then they get slammed for every single mistake and be painted as "false news" by those who started the ****ing false news ****...

Maybe a regulator of some sort is needed to make sure that news organisations are kept truthful and dont become part of a propaganda machine like Fox News.

Your intent seem to indicate that you think you are disagreeing with the post to which you respond and yet the content of your message confirms the post to which you respond.

An amazing bit of confirmation bias.

 

[code1211]

Given CNN's explosion in popularity I would say CNN's purpose is to make a lot of money off of people's disgust with Trump

Is CNN Number 1 in the ratings?

 

[code1211]

No, the truth is the truth. False stories and "alternative facts" need to be squashed or/and countered some how. Either the media police themselves, or we have to have someone do it for them. Right now, the US media certainly does not police themselves, as CNN is getting ripped apart for its mistakes, but Fox News is teflon. That "Briebart" is accepted as news, is laughable.

My point is, as a consumer of news, we need to have some certainty that the news we are watching or reading is as fair and balanced as possible, and if that requires an industry regulator or code of conduct or whatever.. then so be it.

The UK has an industry code of conduct that all TV news organisations have to follow if they want to transmit in the UK. It works some what, and is absolutely hated by Murdoch, aka Fox News owner, which means it must be the right thing to do.



Hell no, I want the truth and facts from my news, not some politically corporate motivated bull****. People who watch Fox News, they are the types that only listen to "news" that they agree with. I for one, listen to multiple news sources from across the world, and then form my own opinion.. which can change over time as more facts and truths come out. No body tells me what I should believe or not believe...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-story-on-russia-ties/?utm_term=.7a42a299ed79

 

[katzgar]

Is CNN Number 1 in the ratings?

nope but give it time CNN and MSNBC's ratings are through the roof...FOX not so much Fox News Tops May Cable News Ratings, MSNBC and CNN Surge | Variety

 

[PeteEU]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-story-on-russia-ties/?utm_term=.7a42a299ed79

Yes and?

Tell me this... how many Fox News people were fired over the false Seth Rich story, that it took Fox News 6 ****ing days to retract, despite it being debunked almost immediately?

That CNN fired the people behind the story only shows that CNN has far more integrity than Fox News or any of the alt-right so called news organisations. Briebart has yet to retract claims like "no go zones" in Europe.. oh so does Fox News btw. So when are people going to be fired over those claims?

 

[code1211]

Yes and?

Tell me this... how many Fox News people were fired over the false Seth Rich story, that it took Fox News 6 ****ing days to retract, despite it being debunked almost immediately?

That CNN fired the people behind the story only shows that CNN has far more integrity than Fox News or any of the alt-right so called news organisations. Briebart has yet to retract claims like "no go zones" in Europe.. oh so does Fox News btw. So when are people going to be fired over those claims?

Was the Seth Richey story properly sourced? I confess that I know nothing about this at all.

The CNN story was not properly sourced nor was it properly researched or attributed.

The firings did not occur at CNN because the story was false. They occurred because ethics needed for any credibility was absent. These folks were fired because they committed malpractice.

 

[code1211]

nope but give it time CNN and MSNBC's ratings are through the roof...FOX not so much Fox News Tops May Cable News Ratings, MSNBC and CNN Surge | Variety

From your link:

In total day, Fox News was first in total viewers with 1.42 million viewers and in the demo with 302,000 viewers.

CNN was third in total viewers with 821,000 but second in the demo with 274,000.

MSNBC was second in total viewers with 925,000 but third in the demo with 221,000.

 

[PeteEU]

Was the Seth Richey story properly sourced? I confess that I know nothing about this at all.

LOL it was a total fabrication and not sourced at all. It was in fact FAR WORSE than the CNN story, because the conspiracy nutjobs on the alt-right are still running with the damn fake story.

The CNN story was not properly sourced nor was it properly researched or attributed.

The firings did not occur at CNN because the story was false. They occurred because ethics needed for any credibility was absent. These folks were fired because they committed malpractice.

And they were fired. No one at Fox has been fired yet...

So again, who is better on the ethical front, let alone on the credibility front? You conservative types have an ethical and credibility problem, when you on one hand go all out against CNN for one or two problematic stories, but let your own propaganda machine continue to spread falsehood after falsehood without any consequences. It seems there are 2 standards.. one for Conservatives and one for everyone else....

 

[katzgar]

From your link:

In total day, Fox News was first in total viewers with 1.42 million viewers and in the demo with 302,000 viewers.

CNN was third in total viewers with 821,000 but second in the demo with 274,000.

MSNBC was second in total viewers with 925,000 but third in the demo with 221,000.

reread post 17 this time for comprehension repeating what I already said is repetitious. The quote is from the link.

"Primetime was much the same, with MSNBC seeing an incredible 105% rise in total viewers compared to last May and a 101% increase in the demo. CNN was second with a 26% rise in viewers and a 39% rise in the demo. Fox News grew 11% in total viewers and 23% in the demo. Of note, CNN narrowed the gap with Fox News to its third smallest since October 2008 in total day and second smallest since January 2009 in primetime in the key demo."

 

[code1211]

LOL it was a total fabrication and not sourced at all. It was in fact FAR WORSE than the CNN story, because the conspiracy nutjobs on the alt-right are still running with the damn fake story.



And they were fired. No one at Fox has been fired yet...

So again, who is better on the ethical front, let alone on the credibility front? You conservative types have an ethical and credibility problem, when you on one hand go all out against CNN for one or two problematic stories, but let your own propaganda machine continue to spread falsehood after falsehood without any consequences. It seems there are 2 standards.. one for Conservatives and one for everyone else....

Well, I confess that I cannot find the news report from FOX news about the Seth Rich Story. I can see references to mentions by talking heads, but not the news division.

Can you present the news story that you seem to think exists?

From both Politifact and CNN, there is a reference in stories about the retraction by FOX to a private investigator who made the charge and this was therefore sourced and attributed. He retracted the charge the next day according to both.

Do you see the difference? Lacking an attribution but presenting the story as fact is journalistic malpractice.

Presenting a story with proper attribution is the job of journalists.

The CNN folks were fired for their lack of professionalism. Not for the story itself.

Disagreeing with a story and citing the malpractice are two very different things.

Can you link to the presentation of this story as broadcast by FOX? I couldn't find it...

 

[code1211]

reread post 17 this time for comprehension repeating what I already said is repetitious. The quote is from the link.

"Primetime was much the same, with MSNBC seeing an incredible 105% rise in total viewers compared to last May and a 101% increase in the demo. CNN was second with a 26% rise in viewers and a 39% rise in the demo. Fox News grew 11% in total viewers and 23% in the demo. Of note, CNN narrowed the gap with Fox News to its third smallest since October 2008 in total day and second smallest since January 2009 in primetime in the key demo."

So...

CNN is the tallest midget. Got it!

 

[NeverTrump]

I'll be honest. I enjoy WWE and have been a life long wrestling fan. Even though the show is scripted, it is enjoyable. At times the storylines are intruging but Vince McMahon knows how to put on a good show.

IMO CNN has less credibility than WWE. At least with the WWE they don't deny they are sports entertainment. IMO CNN is media entertainment. They are as much as real media as the WWE is to real wrestling.

WWE understands who they are. CNN is like masturbating with hot sauce. It is neither pleasurable or entertaining. What is CNN's purpose?

wow so much hateful circle jerking just because someone has a different viewpoint. I have yet to see any legitimate reason not to trust CNN that hasn't been a right wing talking point. I guess you guys will throw your objectivity out the window as long as it puts Trump in a good light.